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Tinnitus and Hypothyroid
Manny,
I have recently experienced three months of tinnitus. After seeing my regular doctor and then an ENT, I was told that there was no cure for it. Because of its rapid onset, I thought it was either because of a digital meter (Smart) that was placed on my home or because of a change in the outside environment. But after ruling those out with help from my friends who heard nothing either in or outside of my house, I did some online research and found out that there IS a link between hypothyroidism and tinnitus AND the kind of medication used. I have been on Levothyroxin for 5 years and have never had a problem with it. So I cold-turkeyed and the ringing continued. Yesterday I started on Armour and the ringing dropped by about half in the first 24 hours. I am hoping that I can get it to disappear completely in the next few days. I have no idea why one med stopped working one day out of the blue. It seems so arbitrary to me. But perhaps there is a medical explanation. So much of this is not researched and seems like a crap shoot, varying from individual to individual. So you have to EXPERIMENT to find out what works best for you. Good luck!
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I have recently experienced three months of tinnitus. After seeing my regular doctor and then an ENT, I was told that there was no cure for it. Because of its rapid onset, I thought it was either because of a digital meter (Smart) that was placed on my home or because of a change in the outside environment. But after ruling those out with help from my friends who heard nothing either in or outside of my house, I did some online research and found out that there IS a link between hypothyroidism and tinnitus AND the kind of medication used. I have been on Levothyroxin for 5 years and have never had a problem with it. So I cold-turkeyed and the ringing continued. Yesterday I started on Armour and the ringing dropped by about half in the first 24 hours. I am hoping that I can get it to disappear completely in the next few days. I have no idea why one med stopped working one day out of the blue. It seems so arbitrary to me. But perhaps there is a medical explanation. So much of this is not researched and seems like a crap shoot, varying from individual to individual. So you have to EXPERIMENT to find out what works best for you. Good luck!
This discussion is related to Low Thyroid and Tinnitus?.
Welcome to the world of endocrinology. As I stated before I feel like I'm in some John grishim book. Doctors lying, underground discussion boards, doctors dissapearing after treating patients, getting treated by text messaging strangers....adrenal spit tests...... Tom cruise would love this story
I can't believe it. About 5 years ago I started to get constant ringing in my ears. I feel like I have to have background noise on all the time to make it fade to the background. Many times it makes me have a hard time sleeping. I have been diagnosed Hypo only 3 years now. Why do I have to read about a connection on a forum instead of getting good information from a doctor that I paid a LOT of money to? I feel the doctor I saw in Minnesota ran tests, collected payment and left me hangin in the breeze. When I went to see an ear, nose & throat doctor which I also paid for out of pocket they did a hearing test and told me this was just something I had to live with.
I would say addressing the Vit D Bruce is needed . Where are your FT3 and FT4 levels at?
I hope im on the right track. I ordered my test kit from canary club last week. I guess it will be here in the next couple of days. I also asked my dr. to draw a 15 point blood test from me. I forgot to ask him for iron on there so ill probably go back tomorrow.
I know my vitamin D is low as some of the endocrines have told me so. I will not know how low until i get my blood results back. I went ahead and started taking some vitiman D, and some magnesium.
Am I on the correct path?
Thank you,
Bruce
I know my vitamin D is low as some of the endocrines have told me so. I will not know how low until i get my blood results back. I went ahead and started taking some vitiman D, and some magnesium.
Am I on the correct path?
Thank you,
Bruce
Im going to share an email with you on a local patient, I can across recently.
(private information held)
Going to our conversation about your issue with tinnitus. We certainly didn't have alot of time to discuss much on everything like injuries or surgeries per say, however this issue is commonly linked to little things - endo related - if found "correctly" - quite genetic really - and in alot of cases, fixed or decreased to extremely easier tolerable levels. Another important thing I do need to know to guide some things, is the age around you were when this really started to come to full focus? I don't want to bombard you with too many links if they don't apply and your age it started, medical issues, surgeries, any medications you take would be an added plus - to pinpoint where things are going wrong.
I also have/ had the issue, so a big part of my research with the endocrine system has alot of connections.
As promised to start off, here are general links, to make you familiar with a few "conditions" that bring this on. Knowing briefly your mothers condition with thyroid - I want you to pay attention at the information here also.
http://brneurosci.org/tinnitus.html
Here is a check sheet of thyroid/adrenal distress I want you to look to see if you fit any profile/symptoms:
Hyperthyroidism - http://thyroid.about.com/cs/basics_starthere/a/hyperchecklist.htm
Hypothyroidism - http://www.thyroid-guide.org/hypothyroidism/hypothyroidism-symptoms-checklist.html
Italic is me adding in for you.
The thyroid gland is one of the largest endocrine glands in the body. It is found in the neck below the mouth. The thyroid controls how quickly the body burns energy, makes proteins and how sensitive the body is to other hormones. Dysfunction of the thyroid leads to numerous problems including lowered energy levels, increased sensitivity to pain, weight gain, depression and tinnitus. Tinnitus is a very common effect of thyroid dysfunction.
We hear from many of the people with tinnitus who suffer from a thyroid dysfunction. Tinnitus will usually reduce or resolve once the underlying problem is addressed.
The thyroid gland controls metabolism by producing thyroid hormones, principally thyroxine (T4) and triiodothyronine (T3). These hormones regulate the rate of metabolism and affect the growth and function rate of many other systems in the body. The thyroid also produces the hormone calcitonin, which plays a role in calcium absorption. - Calcium is involved in tinnitus - linked on the Vit D3 panel.
The production of T3 and T4 is regulated by thyroid-stimulating hormone (TSH) produced in the pituitary. The most common method today of determining thyroid dysfunction is the measurement of TSH.
Iodine - Iodine loading test and possible supplementation to balance the levels - is an essential component of both T3 and T4. - measured as blood lab ONLY based off the Free T3 and Free T4 labs and not TOTAL generalized medical tests. T3 contains three iodine molecules while T4 contains four molecules. The vast majority of thyroid hormone produced in the thyroid gland is thyroxine (T4) which is the least active of the two. Up to 80% of T4 is converted in the liver to produce T3, which is ten times more active. T3 direct hormone instability causing the tinnitus.
In thyroid disease + tinnitus = would link your Adrenal glands! -
Where the strong connection lies here is your work load, Paul. In your cortisol levels involving the stress on the ( adrenal glands) - adding in possible thyroid function is an issue that would certainly bring on something as undiagnosed commonly with adrenal fatigue and most critical Addisions or Cushings with the tinnitus involved as a "issue" or commonly symptom related to the underlying conditions above.
That's why I immediately suggested last night, a thorough look at certain things on a saliva panel ( test ) to pinpoint dysfunction better than blood spots or labs.
Lastly, Due to your gender and the conditions above, aging, and your work load - your testosterone - plus the above - would get thrown off. The evidence of this twined is factual and I spent my last 8 years looking at the research. This article below is general but can give you direction on how everything is inter-twined. Don't overload your brain on everything. In the end of this email I am going to suggest a doctor that can probably put you back on the right track within 4 to 6 weeks - after certain tests are done. DHEA + testosterone.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/153822.php
Let me give you a Leman term on this whole pile of hormonal stuff, like in a mathematical problem so you get it simplified.
Starts here...
Immune system breakdown = liver slow-down. Liver = less production of T3/T4 thyroid atoms. Thyroid = abnormal cortisol + DHEA/testosterone = Immune system shut down more.... and the cycle continues making "symptoms" ( tinnitus and others) more visible. Prominent, Until the shut down happens.
Get it?
So simple self fixes (maybe) would be this.
Immune system rebuilding - concentrating on the high values of Vit D3 - Vit C - DHEA - possible Iodine, zinc and copper and magnesium to supplement to support the system to re balance. Impressing the GI track to stimulate going gluten free, and adding acidophillus to purify again.
Thyroid = =Iodine. - Need loading test to determine dosage and saliva labs to monitor w/ adrenal cortex/DHEA/thyroid/testosterone measured.
You can either get a saliva panel on your own at canaryclub.com or have this doctor run it. You will have to pay for the visit with her and most likely the saliva lab test kit too - most insurances do not cover the cost of these and ( doctor) has moved her practice to "Integrative" - so the insurance hoop-lah on keeping patients sick - non-diagnosed, is not in her regular realm of services.
http://www.medhelp.org/personal_pages/my_home
Happy Holidays,
www.medhelp.org - Thyroid/ Adrenal / Bio Identical - Patient Advocate and Ambassador Community Leader
Coalition for Better Thyroid Care/ Facebook/Profile
Health Pages of Endocrine Disasters and Back to Wellness. An Internet search for balance again.
"Feel good and symptom free - at any age, with the right information and care. "
(private information held)
Going to our conversation about your issue with tinnitus. We certainly didn't have alot of time to discuss much on everything like injuries or surgeries per say, however this issue is commonly linked to little things - endo related - if found "correctly" - quite genetic really - and in alot of cases, fixed or decreased to extremely easier tolerable levels. Another important thing I do need to know to guide some things, is the age around you were when this really started to come to full focus? I don't want to bombard you with too many links if they don't apply and your age it started, medical issues, surgeries, any medications you take would be an added plus - to pinpoint where things are going wrong.
I also have/ had the issue, so a big part of my research with the endocrine system has alot of connections.
As promised to start off, here are general links, to make you familiar with a few "conditions" that bring this on. Knowing briefly your mothers condition with thyroid - I want you to pay attention at the information here also.
http://brneurosci.org/tinnitus.html
Here is a check sheet of thyroid/adrenal distress I want you to look to see if you fit any profile/symptoms:
Hyperthyroidism - http://thyroid.about.com/cs/basics_starthere/a/hyperchecklist.htm
Hypothyroidism - http://www.thyroid-guide.org/hypothyroidism/hypothyroidism-symptoms-checklist.html
Italic is me adding in for you.
The thyroid gland is one of the largest endocrine glands in the body. It is found in the neck below the mouth. The thyroid controls how quickly the body burns energy, makes proteins and how sensitive the body is to other hormones. Dysfunction of the thyroid leads to numerous problems including lowered energy levels, increased sensitivity to pain, weight gain, depression and tinnitus. Tinnitus is a very common effect of thyroid dysfunction.
We hear from many of the people with tinnitus who suffer from a thyroid dysfunction. Tinnitus will usually reduce or resolve once the underlying problem is addressed.
The thyroid gland controls metabolism by producing thyroid hormones, principally thyroxine (T4) and triiodothyronine (T3). These hormones regulate the rate of metabolism and affect the growth and function rate of many other systems in the body. The thyroid also produces the hormone calcitonin, which plays a role in calcium absorption. - Calcium is involved in tinnitus - linked on the Vit D3 panel.
The production of T3 and T4 is regulated by thyroid-stimulating hormone (TSH) produced in the pituitary. The most common method today of determining thyroid dysfunction is the measurement of TSH.
Iodine - Iodine loading test and possible supplementation to balance the levels - is an essential component of both T3 and T4. - measured as blood lab ONLY based off the Free T3 and Free T4 labs and not TOTAL generalized medical tests. T3 contains three iodine molecules while T4 contains four molecules. The vast majority of thyroid hormone produced in the thyroid gland is thyroxine (T4) which is the least active of the two. Up to 80% of T4 is converted in the liver to produce T3, which is ten times more active. T3 direct hormone instability causing the tinnitus.
In thyroid disease + tinnitus = would link your Adrenal glands! -
Where the strong connection lies here is your work load, Paul. In your cortisol levels involving the stress on the ( adrenal glands) - adding in possible thyroid function is an issue that would certainly bring on something as undiagnosed commonly with adrenal fatigue and most critical Addisions or Cushings with the tinnitus involved as a "issue" or commonly symptom related to the underlying conditions above.
That's why I immediately suggested last night, a thorough look at certain things on a saliva panel ( test ) to pinpoint dysfunction better than blood spots or labs.
Lastly, Due to your gender and the conditions above, aging, and your work load - your testosterone - plus the above - would get thrown off. The evidence of this twined is factual and I spent my last 8 years looking at the research. This article below is general but can give you direction on how everything is inter-twined. Don't overload your brain on everything. In the end of this email I am going to suggest a doctor that can probably put you back on the right track within 4 to 6 weeks - after certain tests are done. DHEA + testosterone.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/153822.php
Let me give you a Leman term on this whole pile of hormonal stuff, like in a mathematical problem so you get it simplified.
Starts here...
Immune system breakdown = liver slow-down. Liver = less production of T3/T4 thyroid atoms. Thyroid = abnormal cortisol + DHEA/testosterone = Immune system shut down more.... and the cycle continues making "symptoms" ( tinnitus and others) more visible. Prominent, Until the shut down happens.
Get it?
So simple self fixes (maybe) would be this.
Immune system rebuilding - concentrating on the high values of Vit D3 - Vit C - DHEA - possible Iodine, zinc and copper and magnesium to supplement to support the system to re balance. Impressing the GI track to stimulate going gluten free, and adding acidophillus to purify again.
Thyroid = =Iodine. - Need loading test to determine dosage and saliva labs to monitor w/ adrenal cortex/DHEA/thyroid/testosterone measured.
You can either get a saliva panel on your own at canaryclub.com or have this doctor run it. You will have to pay for the visit with her and most likely the saliva lab test kit too - most insurances do not cover the cost of these and ( doctor) has moved her practice to "Integrative" - so the insurance hoop-lah on keeping patients sick - non-diagnosed, is not in her regular realm of services.
http://www.medhelp.org/personal_pages/my_home
Happy Holidays,
www.medhelp.org - Thyroid/ Adrenal / Bio Identical - Patient Advocate and Ambassador Community Leader
Coalition for Better Thyroid Care/ Facebook/Profile
Health Pages of Endocrine Disasters and Back to Wellness. An Internet search for balance again.
"Feel good and symptom free - at any age, with the right information and care. "
geez.... im the tinnitus king. its more of a buzzing at this point.... looking forward to your labs.
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