Do you believe in Hell?

[flmagi]

Anyone want to discuss some deep issues?
Discuss, not argue.
Do you believe in Hell? What do you think Hell is?
Is there a grading system when you die, that decides whether you go to Heaven or Hell? And what if you fall short by just 1 point, is there a re-do exam?
Do you get a second chance after you go to Hell?
If all young children that die, go to Heaven, then doesn't abortion assure these babies a place in Heaven? Where as, if they were allowed to grow, live and die, certainly some of them would go to Hell?

[HelpinUtah]

outotown:
I completely agree that they had to eat the apple to go forth with God's plan.  The thing is I believe Satan was tricked!  He thought he was causing problems when in reality his temptation actually brought to pass God's plan all along.
Great ideas!

[dominosarah]

So what is the difference between a preacher, a pastor a reverend or a minister?  Where did all those come from?

[outotown]

Now to get to your question, did they have to eat the apple. YES this was Gods plan all along to have people who would love him on thier own and not to be made to love him. Lets go back a little farther.Read Jeremiah 4:23-27 and look at the wording in Genises the frist few chapters, God told Adam and Eve and commanded the animals to multiply and REPLENISH the earth. The Bible does not say this very plain but it does suggest that there was something here before us. In Jer. 4 look what it says I beheld past tense, and low there was no man all the brids had fled The earth was without form and voidand the heavens they had no light. What that suggest was that there MAY?? have been a judgement before Gen 1:1 noticed I said may. Now if the earth had no light if it was just shut off, we would go to -400 plus below 0 what would that do to anything that was on the earth, I wonder where all these dinasours remains came from. They would have been frozen in place, and sience does tell us the was an ice age. This is just something to think about. The bible does not come right out and say this, so we can not take it as fact but it is possible, and when God made this world he did so with the sin in the garden so that his plan of redemming us to himself could come to pass.

[outotown]

They were told to be fruitful and multiy before they sinned and we also dont know how long they were in the garden before that sin, it is probale that they had children while in the garden. Remember the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair and chose who they wanted to be there wifes. The Sons of God MAY?? have been the children born before the sin. Cain the bible says went to the land of Nod and knew his wife and she bare a son. He did not go there to get a wife he took her with him and didnt have any children until they went to NOD. Thats a ? that gets asked alot where did cain get his wife, there was people already being born. I will give more of an answer in a minute in the middle of cooking

[HelpinUtah]

But, let me throw something out there - don't you think it was necessary for Adam and Eve to eat the apple?  Perhaps it was God's plan all along?  I mean, if it had not been for that "sin" Adam and Eve would have remained innocent and would most likely not be able to procreate?  Just a thought!  :)

[outotown]

What was the sin that Adam and Eve committed, was it an external sin i.e Eating the forbiden fruit. OR was it an internal sin i.e unbielf, What is the clue HATH GOD SAID!! That question put doupt in thier mind. The sin was doupting God, which led to eating the proverbiable apple. Faith and doupt are not oppitsites but parrell's, see when you doupt God you ultimitly believe a lie. So then either way you believe something, weather a lie or the truth What God said. Jesus came to take away the SIN of the world, what was that sin, the sin of doupt and unbielf. So that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have ever lasting life. What does the bible say in one place, THAT THEY ALL MIGHT BE DANMED WHO BELIEVED NOT THE TRUTH BUT HAD PLEASURE IN UNRIGHTEOUSNEES, What is unrighteousness, not being in a right relationship with God, which can only happen thur the Sacrafice Jesus made so that we can boldly come to the throne of Grace to obtain mercy and find help in time of need