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I want to stop tomorrow,please help asap
Ok so ive been taking percocets and vikodin for almost 2 years now.i started because I liked the "numb" feeling it gave me. My bf and also my sons dad was murdered a month before so I dealt with it by taking pills..well now my son is 2 and ive realized this addiction needs to stop.i feel unstoppable (when I have pills) but when I cant get any pills my body is useless and the griefing process I never got through starts. My whole day is the pills.do I have enough,how will I get more how will I make my money last for more.i hate it. I have no support at all because my mother is a addict as well and I dont tell anyone else.i know this has to stop so tomorrow I am going to start day 1 with tappering or cold turkey.i would prefer tappering but I have already failed with it so im thinking of going cold turkey..these are my conflicting issues with cold turkeying...i work all week only get sunday and mondays off..and I support my son by myself when im not at work. Can someone please help and give me advise.what can I supply on from any local stores to help?
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Saint Maxamillion Kolbe, please intercede for my addicted friends so that the ones who have taken the steps to become clean have the peace in their hearts and souls to stay clean. And to my not yet sober friends that they one day find the courage and strength to realize that the pills are just doing them damage, and they start the process by throwing the pills away and detoxing, and please Lord, Mother Mary, Angels and Saints please be with those that are currently detoxing and going through withdrawals.Wrap your arms around them and help them feel safe and comforted so they dont find the w/ds so unbearable they reach for another pill. In Jesus name Amen
(this was not meant to offend anyone so if you not believe in God or u believe in another god i was just trying to do something positive to let you know im here praying for you all!!)
Saint Maxamillion Kolbe, please intercede for my addicted friends so that the ones who have taken the steps to become clean have the peace in their hearts and souls to stay clean. And to my not yet sober friends that they one day find the courage and strength to realize that the pills are just doing them damage, and they start the process by throwing the pills away and detoxing, and please Lord, Mother Mary, Angels and Saints please be with those that are currently detoxing and going through withdrawals.Wrap your arms around them and help them feel safe and comforted so they dont find the w/ds so unbearable they reach for another pill. In Jesus name Amen
(this was not meant to offend anyone so if you not believe in God or u believe in another god i was just trying to do something positive to let you know im here praying for you all!!)
I found the thomas recipe. I havent tried it but it sounds good, i suggest you also add 5HTP to it.
For the Recipe, You'll need:
1. Valium (or another benzodiazepine such as Klonopin, Librium, Ativan or Xanax). Of these, Valium and Klonopin are best suited for tapering since they come in tablet form. Librium is also an excellent detox benzo, but comes in capsules, making it hard to taper the dose. Ativan or Xanax should only be used if you can't get one of the others.
2. Imodium (over the counter, any drug or grocery store).
3. L-Tyrosine (500 mg caps) from the health food store.
4. Strong wide-spectrum mineral supplement with at least 100% RDA of Zinc, Phosphorus, Copper, Magnesium and Potassium (you may not find the potassium in the same supplement).
5. Vitamin B6 caps.
6. Access to hot baths or a Jacuzzi (or hot showers if that's all that's available).
How to use the recipe:
Start the vitamin/mineral supplement right away (or the first day you can keep it down), preferably with food. Potassium early in the detox is important to help relieve RLS (Restless Leg Syndrome). Bananas are a good source of potassium if you can't find a supplement for it.
Begin your detox with regular doses of Valium (or alternate benzo). Start with a dose high enough to produce sleep. Before you use any benzo, make sure you're aware of how often it can be safely taken. Different benzos have different dosing schedules. Taper your Valium dosage down after each day. The goal is to get through day 4, after which the worst WD symptoms will subside. You shouldn't need the Valium after day 4 or 5.
During detox, hit the hot bath or Jacuzzi as often as you need to for muscle aches. Don't underestimate the effectiveness of hot soaks. Spend the entire time, if necessary, in a hot bath. This simple method will alleviate what is for many the worst opiate WD symptom.
Use the Imodium aggressively to stop the runs. Take as much as you need, as often as you need it. Don't take it, however, if you don't need it.
At the end of the fourth day, you should be waking up from the Valium and experiencing the beginnings of the opiate WD malaise. Upon rising (empty stomach), take the L-Tyrosine. Try 2000 mgs, and scale up or down, depending on how you feel. You can take up to 4,000 mgs. Take the L-Tyrosine with B6 to help absorption. Wait about one hour before eating breakfast. The L-Tyrosine will give you a surge of physical and mental energy that will help counteract the malaise. You may continue to take it each morning for as long as it helps. If you find it gives you the "coffee jitters," consider lowering the dosage or discontinuing it altogether. Occasionally, L-Tyrosine can cause the runs. Unlike the runs from opiate WD, however, this effect of L-Tyrosine is mild and normally does not return after the first hour. Lowering the dosage may help.
Continue to take the vitamin/mineral supplement with breakfast.
As soon as you can force yourself to, get some mild exercise such as walking, cycling, swimming, etc. This will be hard at first, but will make you feel considerably better.
Thomas"
For the Recipe, You'll need:
1. Valium (or another benzodiazepine such as Klonopin, Librium, Ativan or Xanax). Of these, Valium and Klonopin are best suited for tapering since they come in tablet form. Librium is also an excellent detox benzo, but comes in capsules, making it hard to taper the dose. Ativan or Xanax should only be used if you can't get one of the others.
2. Imodium (over the counter, any drug or grocery store).
3. L-Tyrosine (500 mg caps) from the health food store.
4. Strong wide-spectrum mineral supplement with at least 100% RDA of Zinc, Phosphorus, Copper, Magnesium and Potassium (you may not find the potassium in the same supplement).
5. Vitamin B6 caps.
6. Access to hot baths or a Jacuzzi (or hot showers if that's all that's available).
How to use the recipe:
Start the vitamin/mineral supplement right away (or the first day you can keep it down), preferably with food. Potassium early in the detox is important to help relieve RLS (Restless Leg Syndrome). Bananas are a good source of potassium if you can't find a supplement for it.
Begin your detox with regular doses of Valium (or alternate benzo). Start with a dose high enough to produce sleep. Before you use any benzo, make sure you're aware of how often it can be safely taken. Different benzos have different dosing schedules. Taper your Valium dosage down after each day. The goal is to get through day 4, after which the worst WD symptoms will subside. You shouldn't need the Valium after day 4 or 5.
During detox, hit the hot bath or Jacuzzi as often as you need to for muscle aches. Don't underestimate the effectiveness of hot soaks. Spend the entire time, if necessary, in a hot bath. This simple method will alleviate what is for many the worst opiate WD symptom.
Use the Imodium aggressively to stop the runs. Take as much as you need, as often as you need it. Don't take it, however, if you don't need it.
At the end of the fourth day, you should be waking up from the Valium and experiencing the beginnings of the opiate WD malaise. Upon rising (empty stomach), take the L-Tyrosine. Try 2000 mgs, and scale up or down, depending on how you feel. You can take up to 4,000 mgs. Take the L-Tyrosine with B6 to help absorption. Wait about one hour before eating breakfast. The L-Tyrosine will give you a surge of physical and mental energy that will help counteract the malaise. You may continue to take it each morning for as long as it helps. If you find it gives you the "coffee jitters," consider lowering the dosage or discontinuing it altogether. Occasionally, L-Tyrosine can cause the runs. Unlike the runs from opiate WD, however, this effect of L-Tyrosine is mild and normally does not return after the first hour. Lowering the dosage may help.
Continue to take the vitamin/mineral supplement with breakfast.
As soon as you can force yourself to, get some mild exercise such as walking, cycling, swimming, etc. This will be hard at first, but will make you feel considerably better.
Thomas"
I cant remember if i read it here but did someone say they watched a show about the danger of pain pills. I want to know the name of it so i can find it online.
Day three GOOD JOB!!!! Im so proud of you, omg the w/ds are almost over seriously. I cant wait to see how you are tomorrow. Keep it up, God is with you and will get you through!!
HI good to see you hanging in there CUDOS on day 3 your 1/2 way threw it just push past the pain keep a positive attitude going and you come thew this fine remember to force fluids and a hgot soak gos a long way in making you feel better try to stay bizzy it keeps your mind off it post often for support good luck and God bless........Gnarly
Thank u all for the support and feedback..sometimes I look at my life..and wow the irony.im the oldest of 3 little sisters,daughter of a mother whos had a addictive traight for 8 yrs maybe longer..and my dad lets just.say he was a rolling stone.growing up i was pretty much the parent at 17 to my 3 sisters..and mother.in between(3yrs ago) I decided to start my own family,everything was perfect until not evn a yr after my sons dad was killed.not too long after that my sisters were all taken from my mom.i have custody of the oldest who is 17(i am 21) and now I go to work,sleep,spend as much time as I can with the kids and start all over again. point in my life story is ive had to be super woman for everyone in my life for so long,still do.everyone is depending on me.so I guess this is what started my addicition,i couldnt take the pain,sorrow so I took these devil pills to numb all my feelings. they numbed them all right but I want to move on and be happy.day 3 is tomorrow.and I CAN get through it!
Hi! I was reading your thread and sympathize.
It sounds like if you're still taking any, you're trying the taper method vs cold turkey. I think both can work - you just have to stick to your plan.
I tried C/T, I tried taper, wasn't successful with either. So now I've done another taper and had my last dose yesterday. Starting to feel it now, but really going to stick it out. Not motivated to do so, but I think exercise will help.... so going to try and work out some.
I wish you the best. I'm right here with you, and I think we're both making good decisions to try to STOP THE MADNESS. We can do this.
It sounds like if you're still taking any, you're trying the taper method vs cold turkey. I think both can work - you just have to stick to your plan.
I tried C/T, I tried taper, wasn't successful with either. So now I've done another taper and had my last dose yesterday. Starting to feel it now, but really going to stick it out. Not motivated to do so, but I think exercise will help.... so going to try and work out some.
I wish you the best. I'm right here with you, and I think we're both making good decisions to try to STOP THE MADNESS. We can do this.
I am sorry to hear that you may not be ready to stop. Cold turkey is okay for some people but in your case as with mine it would likely only lead to drinking or something else. Mine started with PTSD not unlike yours at least as far as how it affected me. It also didn't help that the onset of bipolar 1 set in after Iraq and it had been many years since I had seen any symptons of it. Treatment is always necessary if the mental withdrawals seem to be worse than the physical ones. I don't mean to sound too morbid and some people don't like admitting they have a mental problem but feel ok saying they have an addiction. I am not a doctor I just feel where you are coming from....please give in and get proffessional help. I will repost my theory on why it works:
The difference is that if they were not available you would really have to find what the real problem was and deal with that. I have met a lot of addicts in my time and for most of them it is harder for them to quit because the pain meds make them feel "normal" in groups or with loved ones or their jobs. Treatment would definately help. But the main thing is admitting to yourself that the pain medication could be "self mediacation" and that there are various anti-deppressants and other non-narcotic, healthy medicines that could help. Those work on your mind. A therapist works on your spirit along with the people on this forum. The running you did or do enjoy sorks on your body. You must attack this thing from all angles.....
I know you are not too excited about after care...I wan't either. The images I had in my head were nasty nurses, unintelligent doctors, and patients who didn't have it as bad as me. It took me actually hiding from people for three weeks thinking of killing myself the whole time to go seek help and when I did I put my life in their hands.
The best thing you will from after care is knowledge that you can turn into wisdom. Almost no one can give you a miracle answer but they can give you knowledge and tools. As you likely know all the work is on you..
But the main thing is admitting to yourself that the pain medication could be "self mediacation" and that there are various anti-deppressants and other non-narcotic, healthy medicines that could help. Those work on your mind. A therapist works on your spirit along with the people on this forum. The running you did or do enjoy sorks on your body. You must attack this thing from all angles.....
Hope it helps, Good Luck...Bubulous
The difference is that if they were not available you would really have to find what the real problem was and deal with that. I have met a lot of addicts in my time and for most of them it is harder for them to quit because the pain meds make them feel "normal" in groups or with loved ones or their jobs. Treatment would definately help. But the main thing is admitting to yourself that the pain medication could be "self mediacation" and that there are various anti-deppressants and other non-narcotic, healthy medicines that could help. Those work on your mind. A therapist works on your spirit along with the people on this forum. The running you did or do enjoy sorks on your body. You must attack this thing from all angles.....
I know you are not too excited about after care...I wan't either. The images I had in my head were nasty nurses, unintelligent doctors, and patients who didn't have it as bad as me. It took me actually hiding from people for three weeks thinking of killing myself the whole time to go seek help and when I did I put my life in their hands.
The best thing you will from after care is knowledge that you can turn into wisdom. Almost no one can give you a miracle answer but they can give you knowledge and tools. As you likely know all the work is on you..
But the main thing is admitting to yourself that the pain medication could be "self mediacation" and that there are various anti-deppressants and other non-narcotic, healthy medicines that could help. Those work on your mind. A therapist works on your spirit along with the people on this forum. The running you did or do enjoy sorks on your body. You must attack this thing from all angles.....
Hope it helps, Good Luck...Bubulous
Well yesterday I didnt get a chance to check in but I didnt have a great day.i woke up and took a hot shower.i usually take my meds as soon as I wake up but I withdrawed and waited until 3.i took 1 pill (usually id take 6 by 3) went to work and withdrawed.i took 2 at 10pm then went home and tryed to sleep.im still unsure if im goin to cold turkey or tapper.if I do tapper im going to only bring 2 pills with me so it wont be ttempting
Good for you, i have been a prisoner to percs for about 5 years now, 7 clean while i was pregnant. I am praying for you. I am not clean yet but i love reading everyone stories. Im praying that i will one day get to the point that im done with all this. I go through w/ds every other week because it never fails i run out before i get my refill. One thing that i have found (and i know everyone is different) but the w/ds are so much easier for me when i taper. Also i have found that 5htp has made the body aches and the rls less severe. One thing that im hoping will help me one day is that i watch alot of shows like addicted, intervention, stuff like that. My hope is that by watching them will prevent me from getting so bad.
I will keep checking this forum and i will be here for you as much as i can! You are not alone in this. Please do this for your baby and also so you can inspire!!! Good luck to you and God Bless!!
I will keep checking this forum and i will be here for you as much as i can! You are not alone in this. Please do this for your baby and also so you can inspire!!! Good luck to you and God Bless!!
i pray for you and am sorry for your past. i am kicking a 50 a day habit right now....10mg tabs. God help us, its so hard. But you can do this. I thought I wouldn't but I am here doing it. God will be here for you.
OK I will try to check in on you tomorrow got a blown radiator in my truck hopfully by tomorrow afternoon it will be up and running will see but ill ber in touch and will pray for you........Gnarly
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Hi and welcome~~I am sara, a recovering addict. You dont have to be a prisoner to these pills anymore. It's time to take your life back and start living. Keep posting here as we are here to support you. Think positive, you can do this!! sara
Thank you gnarly..i do believe in god and I plan on praying my way through this until I make it! I am going to start this process in the morning,thank you for the support.im sure I will be on here alot starting tomorrow,to anyone who has the time please,please give me encouragement.anything to help me through this..thank you!
HI.......most of us have been in your shoes with the pill problems with a little perseverance and the right attitude you can be free of this he11 your have just made one of the best decisions of your life now you need to understand how it works ...for most people they start out buy reading on here....I know I did this is going to be a fight for your life and I also believe a spiritual one as well this is /3 physical 2/3 mental be ready to fight it out on both fronts
it takes a 4 or 54 day week to flush out your body your mind is a different story and we recamend aftercare to work t5hrew your personal demons....I to am sorry for you loss .a lot of people start using over something like that anything to numb the pain....as for the next few days the first thing you need to do is GET RID OF ALL PILLS trust me they will call your name when in the middle of this the next thing is work on your attitude its got to be a win win to make it threw this time will seam as though it stoped working threw it will actually be helpful it will keep your mind off it many of our members have worked a full week during withdrawals just know at t5he end of the day there will be a hot soak waiting for you to releave most of t56he symptoms.....sleep is always a problem you just have to put up with it very few things work early on as the days progess you will start to feel better and sleep......I dont nkow if you belive in God or not but Jesus heres those that cry out his name when it 3 am and your up shaking he's all you got prayer helps it got me threw it keep posting for support flush the pills now the sooner you start the quicker it will be over where out here to support and herlp you its a littlew quite late at night but if you wait a wile someone else is usually up also just remember to refresh your browser every 15 min or so I wish you all the best good luck and God bless.......Gnarly....btw let us know when you start.....
it takes a 4 or 54 day week to flush out your body your mind is a different story and we recamend aftercare to work t5hrew your personal demons....I to am sorry for you loss .a lot of people start using over something like that anything to numb the pain....as for the next few days the first thing you need to do is GET RID OF ALL PILLS trust me they will call your name when in the middle of this the next thing is work on your attitude its got to be a win win to make it threw this time will seam as though it stoped working threw it will actually be helpful it will keep your mind off it many of our members have worked a full week during withdrawals just know at t5he end of the day there will be a hot soak waiting for you to releave most of t56he symptoms.....sleep is always a problem you just have to put up with it very few things work early on as the days progess you will start to feel better and sleep......I dont nkow if you belive in God or not but Jesus heres those that cry out his name when it 3 am and your up shaking he's all you got prayer helps it got me threw it keep posting for support flush the pills now the sooner you start the quicker it will be over where out here to support and herlp you its a littlew quite late at night but if you wait a wile someone else is usually up also just remember to refresh your browser every 15 min or so I wish you all the best good luck and God bless.......Gnarly....btw let us know when you start.....
Thank u so much debbie,
I was taking 20 perks or a little more a day plus oxycodine 80mlg 4 times through the week but for the last two mnths ive been only taking perks or viks whichever I can get and about 11-13 a day. I do have a.few left.please do pray for me.this is my biggest battle in life addiction,grieving plus loneliness. Feels like the worst things alone let alone dealing with all of this at the same time :(
I was taking 20 perks or a little more a day plus oxycodine 80mlg 4 times through the week but for the last two mnths ive been only taking perks or viks whichever I can get and about 11-13 a day. I do have a.few left.please do pray for me.this is my biggest battle in life addiction,grieving plus loneliness. Feels like the worst things alone let alone dealing with all of this at the same time :(
Thank u for the advise.and encouragement..your absolutely right its not fair to my son.he does not understand but 2yrs already flew by another 2 is right around the corner so I know this has to end now.the biggest battle besides the physical w/d is the pain I deal with mentally and griefing,i feel like the whole world is on my shoulders and nobodys here for me.i feel lonely I feel asshamed of puting myself through this,angry because im letting this control my life,my happiness..thats y im more ready then ever to fight this.this site is a blessing.sometimes ppl just need to hear they can do it,and that someone cares.because not everyone has a supportive person n their life..so again thank u for your words. Im going to try and fight this
hello and welcome to MH. so happy for you that you want to reclaim your life.
how much have you been taking?
as you have stated you tried a taper, it is very,very hard most people arent disciplined to handle it,unless someone holds the pills. a taper prolongs the withdrawal they are less severe but longer. so cold turkey seems to be the choice of most.
the thomas recipe is on the bottom right under health pages. you will also need lots of gatorade,vitamin water,juices to prevent dehydration. hylands restful leg for rls. and epsom salts for the bath. you can valerian root and melatonin to help with anxiety and to relax you.
do you have any pills left? many people can work through their detox they arent well but it is better to keep moving and to keep yourself busy.
i am so sorry for your loss. i would definitely recommend that you go for counseling after your detox to help you deal with those feelings that have been suppressed for so many years.be strong, pray and ask the LORD to help you
i will pray for you
debbie
how much have you been taking?
as you have stated you tried a taper, it is very,very hard most people arent disciplined to handle it,unless someone holds the pills. a taper prolongs the withdrawal they are less severe but longer. so cold turkey seems to be the choice of most.
the thomas recipe is on the bottom right under health pages. you will also need lots of gatorade,vitamin water,juices to prevent dehydration. hylands restful leg for rls. and epsom salts for the bath. you can valerian root and melatonin to help with anxiety and to relax you.
do you have any pills left? many people can work through their detox they arent well but it is better to keep moving and to keep yourself busy.
i am so sorry for your loss. i would definitely recommend that you go for counseling after your detox to help you deal with those feelings that have been suppressed for so many years.be strong, pray and ask the LORD to help you
i will pray for you
debbie
Look up the Thomas recipe and I'm sure someone will b along shortly with what products to get to help.I wasn't lucky enough to find this sight until after most of my c/t w/d were through.I wanna just let u know u can do this and do it for u and your son.I did a very similar thing not dealing w/the loss of my fiance like10years ago who died overseas n the marines,gettting n2 a arguement around the same time with my3bf's since I was a kid etc. Not making up w/them and ending up feeling totally alone.I am married have a 2year old but still I would b high and not dealing with stuff from years ago.When ur on the pills&detoxing ur emotions r hightened BIG TIME.Once ur clean. U will have to let yourself feel and grieve for ur child's father&pick up the peices and its gonna b tough,raw BUT if u don't u will b dealing w/it like it happened last week for the next10or20 years.I am so sorry for your loss but realize ur child lost their father&now moms not really mentally there thats not fair.Therapy/aftercare is essential.Good luck.U can do this.
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