Is Tramdol good to use for withdrawal

[Firefaery1023]

Hi!  I have been addicted to Vicodin for 3 years now.  I am only 27 years old and have an 8 month old son.  And yes I was taking them when I was pregnant.  I am extremely grateful that it didn't cause him any harm.  I realized I was out of control and that all the people around me were disappointed with me and tired of me lieing.  I hate the person I have become.  My dad and I are going to detox together this weekend.  I was wondering if I can take tramadol to ease the withdrawal symptoms or is this just going to delay the withdrawal symptoms.  What I have it is an opiate but doesn't bind entirely to the opiate receptors.  So I don't know.  Today is day 1 for me.  It has been 15 hours and I am ok so far but the last time I went through withdrawal I had extreme restlessness to the point where I wanted to get out of my own skin.  That is the toughest part for me.  Does anyone have any advice for me on how I should deal with this?  Thanks

[toxictome]

Well...get thru wds...
then you're going to have to deal w/ this....
a clear head will help!

[Firefaery1023]

I think once I make it through the weekend I will be alright.  He hides his pills from me because when I would run out I would steal his.  He's done the same thing to me.  It has ruined our relationship.  Neither one of us trust, the other person now.  I just came to the realization that I didn't want to do this anymore.  He is constantly telling me "You don't need the pill".  He is a hypocrite though, he takes more than I do.  He goes to 3 different dr's and then gets methadone and suboxone for when he runs out.

[toxictome]

You SHOULD be PROUD of yourself...you're taking a BIG step and getting clean which will help you be a clear headed parent for your baby.

I am sometimes on here at 2 in the morning on the weekend....!!!

Hopefully you WILL be an inspiration to your husband...and maybe he'll decide to quit too. Will that be hard for you to be home after the weekend w/ him using and his pills around????

[Firefaery1023]

Thanks.  All I know is that I have almost made it 24hours and that makes me proud.  Usually I am going out of my mind by this point but this time seems a little easier.  I will let you know how I am feeling later.  2 in the morning I might be feeling like **** because I can't sleep.  My mom would be happy though if she woke up in the morning and I had cleaned the entire house.  That kind of makes me feel guilty though, I have to clean my own house.  I can't be there though because my husband is addicted to percocet and I can't be around it.  I am hoping that if I get clean, he will get the inspiration to get clean too.

[toxictome]

For the rls...try HOT baths with Epsoms salts, heating pad on your calves..and/or electric blanket.
I was in and out of the bathtub 3-4 times day.

Also...try not to watch the clock..it makes the wds seem worse when you focus on them...try to keep your mind busy, Read a book, put a puzzle together, watch a movie.
If you can exercise...or take a walk...that helps with your mood and rls.

The worst of the wds seem to be between days 3-5 with day 5 things start to settle down..., but everyone is different, depending on their drug usage and length of time.

Stay on here and post and read...that helps to occupy your mind, also.

GOOD LUCK!!!    YOU CAN DO THIS!!!!  heck...you ARE doing it!!!!

[Avalancheblanche]

Just saw your post.  PLEASE dont take tramadol.  It is VERY addictive.  I am an example of that....I did not read the rest of the responding posts, but, I am sure others said the same.  Listen to them!  
I will be thinking of you.  take care and keep posting.

[Firefaery1023]

I normally have a low blood pressure, so I don't think it is a good idea.  I usually run 100/60 which is pretty low.  If I stand up to fast I get dizzy.  I have some clonopine (a trnquilizer) but I don't like the way it makes me feel.  It makes me really tired so I figured that I would only take it to help me sleep and then give it up.  I know that it is an addictive drug, my father has been on Ativan for 30 years now.  

[allaboutmary]

If you can get to your doctor ask him for some Clonodine.  It is a blood pressure medicine that really helps with withdrawals and the restlessness. You must get it from a doctor as some people can not take it due to low bp. Your bp must be monitored while taking it.

[Firefaery1023]

Did you get the neurontin from the doctor because you told him that you were going through withdrawal?  I was on neurontin before becuse I have RLS even before taking the vicodin.  The doctor stopped prescribing it too me so when I go through withdrawal I have severe restlessness.  It almost feels as if I am going to have a seizure.

[Firefaery1023]

Thanks everyone for all of the support.  I haven't gotten the opportunity to throw the bottle away yet, but I have no urge to take them.  I keep thinking about vicodin though.  The good thing is that I cut off all of my connections from getting them.

[worried878]

Sounds like you are making good decisions...tapering like you did with the vicoden verses the tramadol...I hear horror stories about that one since on the forum...I have taken them before for pain but never felt anything...became aware that they are a synthetic opiate and the drug company that marketed them kinda misled people...also many docs do not even realize they are habit forming...keep posting...keep trying

[mr.lucky66]

Tamadol sux . There are no wonder drug solutions for drug addiction. Some things can help though but not ultram. all the best

[mr.lucky66]

Tamadol sux . There are no wonder drug solutions for drug addiction. Some things can help though but not ultram. all the best

[Firefaery1023]

So just to let you know that I am up to hour number 20 and seem to be doing ok.  I have cut myself off from all of those people that could give me pills.  My mom has vicodin but doesn't take them and she has them in a safe.  I thold her not to let me have any no matter what I say.  I really want to do this this time, and I really don't want to have to go through withdrawals again, they suck big time.  Right now I am not feeling any withdrawals which is weird because I usually feel them after 12 hours, but maybe it helped this week that I weaned off of them.  Very rapidly of course.  I was having withdrawals all week just not as bad as the last time.  I just can't get the thought of taking another pill out of my head.  I am really glad though that I cut off all of my supplies to the stuff.

[Firefaery1023]

Thanks again everyone.  The tramadol is going in the garbage now.  I don't mean the garbage in my office either, I am going to go to the dumpster and toss them.  The reason I asked was they were the reason that I tried a month ago.  They reduced the withdrawal symptoms and made me say to myself, I can do this.  After I didn't have the tramadol anymore though the withdrawals came back and then it was only a matter of time before I said that I can't take this anymore I need a vicodin.  I took 1 and felt great and then with in a week I was back into my old habits.  I want it to stick this time, so I told everyone I know that I am doing this and getting support.  Plus this morning I signed up for this forum, I am determined to end this addiction it has ruined my life (my husband is addicted to percocet).  I just can't live like this anymore and I hope if I clean up it will give my husband the motivation to clean up as well.  I don't think he really wants to though and he is not the person I married.  I am not the same person either because of the med and I am determined to take my life back.  I don't want my son growing up with a mother who is an addict.

[GoingToMakeIt]

Throw the Trams away, so you are no tempted to take. They are a highly addicting synthetic opiate. Look in my journals for the Thomas recipe. The are things in it that help w//ds. Good luck and Welcome to the forum.

[Firefaery1023]

Thank you for the advice.  I think I am going to stay away from the tramadol altogether.  I think that I will leave the bottle here at work this weekend so that I don't even get the urge to take one.  I am currently up to 17 hours clean and hoping to stay that way.  The hardest part for me in the restlessness that occurs once I get to the 24 hour mark.

[dardo]

DO NOT use tram unless you are tapering with dr. supervision. Some, go from the weakest vic strength to Tram for continued weaning. Tram is a schedule 4 drug, which means its les potent, chemically speaking with regard to the OPIATE level and less receptor binding. But, FDA is finding out that some get more hooked on Tram than Norco or Vic, but this is the minority. Most are more easily hooked on Vic than Tram. And, it is used as a WD medication but your Dr. has to decide the levels.

In my own experience, it has helped with the WD. I have run out of Vic and used a previously prescribed Tram and it for sure helped. But, I called my Dr. first and he told me how much and when. PLEASE BE VERY CAREFUL

[toxictome]

NO...NO...NO!!!

DO NOT take TRAMADOL...

you are trading one drug for another and Trams are worse to wd off of than vics...

Hot baths for rls...exercise really helps too...even if you can onlynmanage a walk!

Good luck and keep posting!!!

[suppdawg]

It will help in the short term but will make WD prolonged because it still operates opiod receptors.

[Missy31]

I am detoxing off the Vic aswell, I have not taken them as long but still feel like ****, I have read alot on Tramadol and have actually taken it in the past and it isn't a opiate but your body responds to it as if it were. Just try and do the CT thing, it isn't going to be easy and you will feel bad really bad no need to sugar coat it, but I'll tell ya what I am doing to try and stay in the fight is everytime I feel like I wanna try and get a RX I look at my kids and think I am doing this for them aswell, so maybe if you can focus and you and your babies future you will see some kinda light at the end of the tunnel. Hot baths, there have also been some post on here about Vit you can take that will help with sleep, I have the RLS at night even though I take a sleep medication so I feel your pain, I wish you and your father the best ( my father is also a pill addict) so I can relate to your story. Best Wishes!

[Firefaery1023]

Does anyone have any more information on tramadol?  I was reading that they use it in rehad facilities.  I have a bottle even with me here at work but I am afraid to touch them and let them become a vicious cycle again of me abusing.  I need to go through withdrawal and I don't want to take the tramadol if all it is going to do is delay the symptoms.  I have this weekend to get thorugh the hard part and I absolutely cannot take off work.  I can't afford to.  I don't have enough of them to abuse them, I have just 10 of them.  

[Firefaery1023]

Thanks for all of the support.  I was taking 200mg of Vicodin a day.  The past week I only took 30mg of Vicodin and was having withdrawal symptoms, especially the runs, anxiousness, and no ability to sleep.  I took 15 mg of Vicodin last night at 6 pm   So I am working on my first day.  I have been trying to do this for a month.  I was off everything for 72 hours and then I took a vicodin and ended up back in the cycle of taking them everyday.  After 72 hours I was exhausted from the restlessness.  I couldn't function at work.  Does anyone have any ideas on how to deal with the restlessness?  It is unbearable to me.  So for the past month I keep trying to get off them but I can't make it past the 24 mark.  This time I have support.  My mom is going to take care of the baby and my dad and I are going to do this together.  Any advice that anyone has will help.  Thanks again.

[sickcookie]

I am glad your hear if you keep reading and posting it will really help alot.You have a great reason to get those awful pills out of your life,trust me you will feel better than you ever did with them.Go to store get a good multi vitiman ,B complex and potassium and magnisium(it really helps with the deep aches).I also took advil at the times I would have taken the vics,it seemed to help.You will feel like the flu for awhile.Take hot baths if you can go for a walk and stay away from sress.I would not even answer phone.Cozy in and remember why you are doing this.Those little voices will work overtime DO NOT LISTEN.Buy foods that are easy I loved popcycles and soup and drinkable yogurt.You also can not play with those old playmates ,I was solo so a bit easier.You have to want this bad for that beautiful baby.Good Luck !!!Today I am 40 days off those vics .