Day 4 begins today... Need SUPPORT Desperately!!!!

[M_DuBb22]

I'm going to try to make this short. I just turned 20 years old and I'm an opiate addict. Oxy's, hydro's, perks, methadones, whatever. I've never done heroin and vow never to try it, but I've tried just about everything else but love the opiate high. I've tried cocaine (not crack, never), alcohol, valium, xanex, other benzos, almost every opiate, marijuana, mushrooms (not LSD), research chemicals, and plenty of others.

I was pretty much a normal teenager until I really got into opiates after I graduated highschool in the summer of 2009, besides the fact that I smoked weed daily since the age of 16 and drank occasionaly, I was friends with everybody in high school and had a normal great life. My senior year of HS was the best year of my life, than after I graduated in 2009 I got addicted to opiates and **** went down hill.

I got arrested over a year ago (St. Patrick's Day 2009) for selling weed to high school/college kids to support my opiate habit and vowed to kick the opiates and did and felt fine after like 4 days. Marijuana really helped but ended up quitting that too weeks later after I got sentenced to drug court and got sent to jail for a month for failing my first drug test for pot. I was completely clean of everything for about 6 months until I got off drug court this past fall/winter. You can see a thread about the last time I kicked opiates here, I was fine and felt confident and great physically/mentally after about 4 days and I was doing up to 80mg a day of hydros/oxys
..... http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Addiction-Substance-Abuse/First-Post-Hydrocodone-Oxy-Withdrawl-Help-/show/723435?personal_page_id=1448558#post_3821944




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But ANYWAYS, I got hooked again and spent about $7 thousand dollars from student grants from college on OXYS and other opiates. At my worst, I was doing up to 120mg of OXY on top of like 50mg of hydrocodone a day this past winter. I've been having a lot of really bad things going on in my life and I've been dealing with pretty bad depression since I started using again after being clean for so long.
..... In the past couple months I managed to ween myself down to a MAXIMUM of about 60mg a day of hydro, 40mg a day of OXY, or 2mg of SUBOXONE.

I've been doing 2mg or less of suboxone for about the past 2 weeks since my friends OXY script ran out, and Saturday was my LAST DAY without any SUB, and that day I did about .5mg of an orange sub/naloxone. I count Saturday as Day 1 because it was such a low ammount and the withdrawals began slowly that day.
......................... The past couple days have been HELL with the w/d's. I've only gotten about 6 hours of sleep in the past 3 days and the common opiate w/d symptoms have been pure HELL since Saturday night. It's now Monday night/Tuesday morning, or the beginning of Day 4, and I expected I'd start to feel better physically/mentally by now but no such luck. I could REALLY use some support. The w/d's are so bad that I've come real close to getting a peice of a sub or something to help. I'm surpised its so bad because I weened down so much. I'm going to try to sleep now :(

[M_DuBb22]

thanks guys

[kittycat1433]

everyone is still praying for you.Hang in there.

[mhfla]

I agree. If you can or even want too, the pot works wonders to sleep. I'm not a big fan of smoking it but it sure does help me.

[cheesystick]

I admire that you are being so strong. I am not strong enough or prepared to quit. just trying to take a little bit to stay comfortable but nothing like the oxy 80 i was doing a day. maybe 1 10mg perc a day morning and night helps me but i still feel like crap. im trying to ease my way into things bcus i know this is going to be soo hard! im just going to tell everyone that i have the flu and im planning on using some vacation time from work. maybe 2 weeks. just to get through that rough part where im constantly sick. ugh! proud of you though. really, i am. its inspirational, all of you guys, i look up to you.
hang in there.

-D

[M_DuBb22]

Sounds good brother stay strong and keep busy, I have a cold now so I feel like **** plus minor withdrawals, day 6

[Dump_Subs]

Everything you write sounds about right.  I tell my  wife and kids I'm sick.  They buy it for now.  Every bit of me, as a voice in my head screams to just take a sliver of a sub, but I know I can't.  I'll make a deal with you.  Let's do this together and never get caught up again.  I too smoke weed at night to get through it.  However, I feel things are worse when that runs out and I can't burn at work.  I turned 37 yesterday, and it was worst bday to date.  Let's beat this man!!!!

[Dump_Subs]

I'm on day 5.  Just want wd's to end.

[M_DuBb22]

thanks guys, the days are getting better. i still feel really cold and get sweats and creepy crawly most of the day but its getting better. still a bit restless but its better, but last night trying to sleep was hell. i still feel "not right" since I'm used to being seduced by opiates most of the day. mentally, im starting to feel better. staying busy and hanging out with close friends REALLY helps. smoking pot really helps too but i know there would be varying opinions on that.

thanks a lot everybody, hopefully this will be a good summer I can enjoy like I should as a 20 year old!! not wasting my time getting money and searching for pills all day and living stuck on the opiate train. now i can start having fun!! how i like to look at it

[HenryS354]

You are doing great, each day will continue to get a little better, but there may be days where PAWS bites back.  Just dont let that discourgae you.

I am in day 23 off of suboxone, most days are good, but I still have time to time bouts of that damn RLS, and Im still sneezing in groups of 4 several times a day. LOL  

But there are more good days than bad, and I just remember how I was feeling on days 5-8, and those memories are all it takes for me to be a bit more optimistic.  

Keep your positive outlook.  That and humour I have found helps immensely!  I mean really, is there anything funnier than explosive diarhhea for days on end?  :-P  

HS

[pdx505]

the first like 5 days i was withdrawing i was sneezing constantly too. i'd sneeze like 7 or 8 times in a row. it was terribly painful...my body was so exhausted and sore that every time i sneezed i could feel it tense up and it was very uncomfortable. im still sneezing a bit...not as much as i was a few days ago.

[M_DuBb22]

on top of that i think i caught a cold or something from my nephew. all of a sudden i've been really congested, sneezing, cold shivers are back, im always freezing, and of course still anxious and wrestless

[pdx505]

i know what you mean. i felt like i was losing it at certain points. it really does get better though...

[M_DuBb22]

i sure hope so.. im driving myself crazy it can't be healthy

[pdx505]

the nights are the worst for me...tossing and turning every five minutes is not fun. i actually slept for more than three hours last night which is huge. just hang in there...you're on the homestretch at this point. be strong.

[M_DuBb22]

these lonely nights suffering by myself seam to be the hardest :(

[M_DuBb22]

i can eat, not a lot but i can. ive been having a lot of problems outside of my addiction so its been hard to keep busy. mostly just sitting around, it *****

[pdx505]

can you eat anything? i personally couldnt eat for like 2 days after i started withdrawing which made me feel much worse im sure. anyway, if you can you should eat some bananas. the potassium should help with the runs...i got a vitamin B supplement and maybe its just a placebo but it really helps give me energy. oh yeah, and i swear epsom salt (2 cups in a bath) really helped the RLS and muscle aches. i used a heating pad last night to help the chills...it seemed to work. what else...just staying busy helps. i know its hard. i wish you the best. keep posting...it really helped me.:)

[M_DuBb22]

thanks a lot pdx im glad we can relate.. especially with w/d's, i have all the symptoms you describe and at times felt i cant take anymore. baths and showers do help the chills, creepy feeling, and muscle aches. im starting to feel a TINY bit better physically, not really mentally. hopefully tommorow will be a lot better

[pdx505]

im on day 9 of sub detox...i know EXACTLY how you feel. days four and five kicked my ***. i ended up calling an emergency nurse line because i thought something was seriously wrong. i didnt understand why i was having such horrible withdrawals from the subs. the nurse i talked to assured me that it was unfortunately normal for withdrawal to kick in about 48-72 hours after the last dose. i seriously felt like i was dying...i spent most of my time in the shower too because the hot flashes drove me crazy. my muscles seemed to chill out in the hot water as well. i hope youre feeling better...this has been quite difficult for me personally. not only the physical, but the mental aspect of it all can be quite unbearable at times. hang in there. i feel much better now...still have the shivers, restless legs, and insomnia but its nowhere close to being as bad as it was day 4 for me. good luck!!!

[M_DuBb22]

Today, Day 4, has been a lot more tolerable, especially compared to yesterday, which was pure hell. I still have shivers and feel a bit restless and odd, and I have really bad diarreah today, but its definatly tolerable compared to yesterday. Hopefully I can get back to my old self again soon..

[M_DuBb22]

I like SOS meetings. I've done a lot of NA/AA and its good for talking/listening but I never got into the program. I graduated from drug/alcohol outpatient counciling around the time I started using again.

[gnarly_1]

Hey dude glad you mad it thew last night....and now your 1/2 way thew day 4 so things should start to look better for you by tomorrow hang in there YOU CAN DO THIS your thew the worst of it but day 4 can be a bit ruff...just think in another day or so this will be behind you...do you have any aftercare lined up yet???...it is critical to long term sobriety so hook up with something it will make the next part of this whole thing a lot ezer
good luck and God bless....Gnarly  

[M_DuBb22]

^^anybody? i feel a tiny bit better today but the shivers, coldness, and crawling skin is driving me crazy. my stomach also feels upset today, didnt the past 3 days

[M_DuBb22]

thank you.. i finally got some sleep, like 7 hours. yes i tossed and turned and woke up every hour but i did sleep. i just woke up feeling like hell, like hungover feeling, drained and weak and cold.

is there anything I can do to get the cold shivers to go away, and help the creepy crawly restless feeling?? its the middle of summer and ive been dressed like im at the north pole