would like some opinions

[coup25]

so my hubby has been off the pills for about 6 days, except one 50mg tramadol, saturday but i really dont think that had an affect on him.what i was wondering about was some of our methods to get to where we are. for instance well when he was having the physical withdrawls he took nyquil and slept for pretty much 2 days, and that di help him get through that then well he was feeling better in his stomache and it was more mental he said he had a headache but really he was just mean and kept saying how he didnt know why i would want him to go through all this pain and was just thinking of ways to get me to let him get some more, and ya know i told him if he really wanted to to go ahead and get it but i wouldnt be around for it anymore, he didnt go. but he did drink, alot of beer and whisky he was so drunk. that made him feel better and helped him sleep for about 5 hours then he was unable to sleep he took more nyquil, more than i would of let him take if i was awake but he couldnt sleep anyway, then yesterday well he was still felling shi*tyand being mean but he didnt want to drink that much and get all messed up he wanted to smoke pot which honestly i have no real problem with and we did it and it really helped him i mean i almost felt like i had my husband back he was helping me a little with the house watched some tv and was laughing again. last night he thanked me for helping and told me how much he loved me and it made me feel good about it. today was our first day apart  we both have to work but i know he wouldnt do anything today because i know as soon as i see him and i know h doesnt want me to leave, well what i was hoping for opinions on is the drinking, smoking pot , and taking nyquil to help ease him i know it isnt the heathiest way but hey i see it as better then the pills. any thought are welcome

[coup25]

thanks for the imput and i agree. i knew the whole time its wasent the best thing to do obviously, but as a wife all i want is for him to be better and not be so mean about it. i know i have to be strong through this for him but it is very hard for me.i feel like i could lose my husband anytime. if he uses i have to leave him, that is what i said i would do and that is what i will have to do, but trust me that is the last thing i want to do. i think it is time for him to stop the drinking heavily and pot. i cant tell him not to drink at all he gonna think i have lost my mind. it just wont happen, i think he can go back to having a drink or two at night like he used to. please tell me if i am being delusional. he never really drank to get drunk before. just a beer or two at night at home. i would only have a drink if we went out to eat.as for the pot he never has liked it so i am not worried about him using it to much. expecially since i have decided not to smoke it anymore. myself i have always like smking weed and think it should be legal blah blah blah, but i know for him the best thing is to not be  in the lifestyle. i decided that when he asked me not to leave and to help him and it is no prob for me. i thought i would have trouble sleeping without weed. i think i might be sleeping better. okay sorry for the ramble

[wesinbama]

Not many people on here will say that drinking and smoking pot are good things to get over opiates. The only exception for me would be if you only did it once or twice in the first couple of days to get over wd. But then every time you had  a bad day you would turn to it. I was taught in rehab to give io everything, including alcohol. I had tried to detox before and started drinking alot. It ended up leading ms back to pills. It is not the easiest path to take, but one that I think he needs to take if he wants to stay clean. Drinking can make you feel good, but your brain can say I know what would be even better. In short, he needs to give up everything. And if you' smoke weed around him, I would suggest that end too. Although I wish I didn't go through what I did, and put my family through what I did, my marriage is now stronger after going through it. I know nyquil is an OTC, but I'd go ahead and end that too and use alternate methods to try and sleep.Hope it helps any. good luck!

[justneedtotalk]

I agree with hellc@mst but not entirely.  I think that if those items were used to get him through the rough part of the withdrawal and stopped no more than two weeks is fine for some people.  On the other hand one who abuses narcotics are very suseptable to other habbits and at that point it comes down to the lesser of two evil's.  Many people on this site are striving for complete sobriety and the advice will follow that path.  I agree that anyone that has abused anything needs to go completely sober.  A drug is a drug is a drug is what AA tell's you so anything that breaks the blood brain barrier is considered a drug....Alcohol, pot, pills, heck nyquil is considered one of them.....I think that he too needs to obstain from anything else here very soon so he does not trade one addiction for another but in the short run can really help.....Good luck and your husband is really lucky to have a supportive person in his life that is truly trying to help!  Hang in there and stay strong!

[hellc@mst]

Im not convinced that drinking to excess or smoking pot in an effort to mitigate the symptoms of withdrawal is the best way to go about stopping narcotic abuse. I think that this behaviour is another outlet for the addict to manifest itself and does little to encourage long term sobriety.

If your husband perisits in engaging in these practices long after the expected withdrawal symptoms have passed i fear he is no better off than he was while on narcotics.

Best advice is to encourage him to cease any further non prescibed methods of self medicating. No doctor would knowingly advocate these practices. I suggest he consult  a trustworthy/ compassionate doctor who may be able to advise him of more traditional methods of treating his withdrawal symptoms..

All the best Regards Jeremy.