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End of day 4 and need encouragement!
Here I am again. This time though I have made it the farthest I have ever gone which is the end of day 4. I am somewhat discouraged because I thought I would be feeling better but today has been pretty rough. Will I feel better tomorrow? I want so badly to make it through this. More than anything. I have 2 little kids who need me. I haven't taken anything since 8am on Friday. I did take 1 suboxone over the last 2 days. That is probably why I am still not feeling better. Any encouragement is so needed right now.
hi im snowflake 24.......I have been reading your posts, preparing me to start my methadone withdrawal process. You can do this!!!! But the more you pop pills, it will just drag on your withdrawals, and really if you are used to taking 16mgs a day. 2 wont do anything anyways, but that is besides the point. everyone is right, cut all contacts.....there is a light at the end of the tunnel. I know you can do this because I have done it. Do you have support in your life besides this sight? I strongly urge you to do na. Good luck. Ill keep reading your posts.
I know. I am so grateful that I have had responses. Im just nervous. i have heard that the withdrawals at 5mgs is the same as 1mg. And I am not going to slow my titration down. Im going to start detoxing when I go down to seven mgs....then I am bouncing all the way out of the clinic. that is if I have enough patience to wait another couple weeks. I know I am mentally prepared for withdrawals. i have bought opiate ease, natural pills that help with withdrawals. and I need to get other items at a health store. anyways sorry to ramble on and on.......I will make a post when I start my detoxing process.
Welcome - you are at the right place.
I've had no experience with methadone or morphine. But I do understand addiction and the process of recovery. But, since we are all individuals, and our DOC differs, then it's really hard to say how your journey will play out.
However, there are several things that all addicts have to do in order to get and stay clean.
During detox, you have to try and keep your body nourished. The withdrawal process can be very draining, so keep fueled. If you come to a point where you can't eat, try drinking stuff like Ensure; fruit smoothies. And if you visit the bathroom alot, then find a drink with electrolytes added. Finally, usually our fear of detox is much, much worse than the actual process.
Once you decide how you want to go we can talk about things that need to be in place to help you stay clean. The mental side of recovery is harder than the physical, and needs to be addressed.
I'm sure if you post your own thread other with experience will be along soon to help. So start a thread of your own.
I've had no experience with methadone or morphine. But I do understand addiction and the process of recovery. But, since we are all individuals, and our DOC differs, then it's really hard to say how your journey will play out.
However, there are several things that all addicts have to do in order to get and stay clean.
During detox, you have to try and keep your body nourished. The withdrawal process can be very draining, so keep fueled. If you come to a point where you can't eat, try drinking stuff like Ensure; fruit smoothies. And if you visit the bathroom alot, then find a drink with electrolytes added. Finally, usually our fear of detox is much, much worse than the actual process.
Once you decide how you want to go we can talk about things that need to be in place to help you stay clean. The mental side of recovery is harder than the physical, and needs to be addressed.
I'm sure if you post your own thread other with experience will be along soon to help. So start a thread of your own.
I know you do not know me but I think your advice is wonderful. I am new to the community and have decided to jump off the methadone at ten mgs. for some reason I sent the same message 3 times. sorry. I have started preparing for the withdrawals. I bought opiate ease withdrawal and have access temporarily for benzos for the first two weeks from my doctor, I am also going to a health place and getting certain vitamins to help with withdrawal. Does anybody have any other advice to give? I know what to expect but im still really nervous.
my name is kara. I am new to the community. I have been at a methadone clinic for 11months. I started at 80, now I am at 13mgs. I have been tapering down 3mgs a week for about 8 months. I have no desire to use. I have tons of energy now. I have read online, not saying it is true, that quitting at 30mgs and quitting methadone at 1mg you have the same withdrawals, I know this sounds really corny but I have this huge yearning inside my heart to just quit now, but Im scared the withdrawals will be really horrible. Can anybody give me some more advice? will the withdrawals be as bad as if I quit at 30mgs? sorry this whole issue of whether i should stop now or at 7 or 4mgs is driving me nuts. I want off now. Any advice? Also, how much is 13mgs of methadone compared to 30mgs of morphine? Is that a right guesstimate? Thanks again,
my name is kara. I am new to the community. I have been at a methadone clinic for 11months. I started at 80, now I am at 13mgs. I have been tapering down 3mgs a week for about 8 months. I have no desire to use. I have tons of energy now. I have read online, not saying it is true, that quitting at 30mgs and quitting methadone at 1mg you have the same withdrawals, I know this sounds really corny but I have this huge yearning inside my heart to just quit now, but Im scared the withdrawals will be really horrible. Can anybody give me some more advice? will the withdrawals be as bad as if I quit at 30mgs? sorry this whole issue of whether i should stop now or at 7 or 4mgs is driving me nuts. I want off now. Any advice? Also, how much is 13mgs of methadone compared to 30mgs of morphine? Is that a right guesstimate? Thanks again,
I don't usually outwardly disagree with another poster, but I have to tell you that, in my opinion, willpower has nothing to do with getting and staying clean. If you are an addict, then the addiction has control, as you found out.
What worries me about your situation is you didn't flush the pills, used them, and are now back at it. What happens if meds pop up again somewhere? Did you learn anything from this last episode? Maybe discovering that you don't, in fact, have control over the addiction, that willpower will not save you, will help set you on the right path.
Now, as far as you being able to do it, that's a no-brainer. You can. Why shouldn't you? Hundreds of addicts - with killer habits and lifetimes of addictions - have recovered. No reason no to add your name to the list.
These three steps helped me; maybe they can help you -
Cut all sources. Cancel refills, any outstanding scripts. If you don't have pills, and if you can't easily access them, then you won't use.
Next, and this is very hard (and not everyone agrees), tell your secret. Tell your doc, dentist, boyfriend, close family and friend(s). If you don't tell your secret, you may end up relapsing behind it. You have no accountability if you have no one who knows. Plus these people will become a part of your support system.
Finally, get after care. Very important. NA meetings and the like.
If you leave any one of these out you may be setting yourself up to relapse.
I believe that they are the foundation for recovery.
Nuff said. Keep working at this. It really does get better, and life without meds really is quite wonderful. Give it a chance. For your kids.
What worries me about your situation is you didn't flush the pills, used them, and are now back at it. What happens if meds pop up again somewhere? Did you learn anything from this last episode? Maybe discovering that you don't, in fact, have control over the addiction, that willpower will not save you, will help set you on the right path.
Now, as far as you being able to do it, that's a no-brainer. You can. Why shouldn't you? Hundreds of addicts - with killer habits and lifetimes of addictions - have recovered. No reason no to add your name to the list.
These three steps helped me; maybe they can help you -
Cut all sources. Cancel refills, any outstanding scripts. If you don't have pills, and if you can't easily access them, then you won't use.
Next, and this is very hard (and not everyone agrees), tell your secret. Tell your doc, dentist, boyfriend, close family and friend(s). If you don't tell your secret, you may end up relapsing behind it. You have no accountability if you have no one who knows. Plus these people will become a part of your support system.
Finally, get after care. Very important. NA meetings and the like.
If you leave any one of these out you may be setting yourself up to relapse.
I believe that they are the foundation for recovery.
Nuff said. Keep working at this. It really does get better, and life without meds really is quite wonderful. Give it a chance. For your kids.
aww hunny I know how hard this is, I was in your shoes not to long ago and I will say the advice that everyone has gave you is right on. I lived by it. even thou it was hard I knew what kyle told me and everyone else was dead on and I had to take the plunge, I had one pill in my wallet and kyle said you have to get rid of it it will call your name and huant you and it did. I got in my car with music cranked as loud as it would go tears streaming down my face and kyles words ringing in my ears. i threw that lil pill out the window and walked the road to sobriety, everything that you are feeling is normal and will fade in time. I promise I remember the day that I posted I'm feel so good I'm hugging trees, that wonderful life is right around the corner for you and everything you are going through right now will fade and a wonderful life will replace all the bad. hang in there hun you are doing great day four is rough and you can do this. anytime you feel scared and lost there is someone on here that will help you through it we all fall and come short just pick yourself back up and move on forward you can do this. I promise there are roses and sunshine on the other side hang in there and keep fighting love and light solost
it will get better a day at a time. I don't think the WD will be as bad no, because it hasn't been that long, but you will still have ot shake the mental stuff.
It gets better, it really does.
You can do it, keep posting and keep the path.
hugs,
Lily
It gets better, it really does.
You can do it, keep posting and keep the path.
hugs,
Lily
Conhall, thank you for the helpful message. It helps me so much. Do you think I will have another week of withdrawals? I am trying so hard.
you can do this . Go for a walk try and stay busy i Know the Wds and mind stuff is hard but it will get better I promise you .
I am sending you Positive energy i am pulling for you :)))
I am sending you Positive energy i am pulling for you :)))
Thank you Lily. :) I don't have anymore to fall back on, so that is good. I am just struggling right now. This is so so hard. I don't know how Mich more I can take.
If you get rid of Pill source there is no way to Relapse. Now just pick yourself up and start over but this time you know you cant have ANY pills available because you will cave in. get rid of pill source and keep going to those NA meetings.
You can get threw this, Take it a day at a time and hour at a time .
Stay positive and dont dwell on the pills you took Dont say well I already messed up so i may as well start another day NO! Start Now Flush any pills you have left Reach down deep inside and push through this. The physical wds will be gone in less than a week The hard part anyways then You deal with the mental and NA is a great start!
keep on going You Got this and We are right here to Help you :)))
You can get threw this, Take it a day at a time and hour at a time .
Stay positive and dont dwell on the pills you took Dont say well I already messed up so i may as well start another day NO! Start Now Flush any pills you have left Reach down deep inside and push through this. The physical wds will be gone in less than a week The hard part anyways then You deal with the mental and NA is a great start!
keep on going You Got this and We are right here to Help you :)))
hey Friend,
ok, so you fell. Get back up and brush yourself off and go on with your plan.
make sure to flush any you have, and continue back on course. DOn't look back, don't give in to guilt, it is nothing but toxic, think as positive as you possibly can and just move forward sweetie. This will all be over soon.
You can do this!
Hugs
Lily
ok, so you fell. Get back up and brush yourself off and go on with your plan.
make sure to flush any you have, and continue back on course. DOn't look back, don't give in to guilt, it is nothing but toxic, think as positive as you possibly can and just move forward sweetie. This will all be over soon.
You can do this!
Hugs
Lily
I am still here...and still don't feel right. This is hard to admit, but you were right Kyle and everyone else I did not flush them and ended up taking one on Wednesday and one Thursday morning. Big mistake. I used to take upwards of 16 per day, so I guess its better. However the goal is to STOP. I am so sick of these things, but it has been so difficult for me to get off of them. So today is Friday. It would have been the beginning of day 8, I don't know if I threw it all away. I don't feel as bad as day 1, but this is becoming difficult to hang on. Help!!! I don't want to go backwards.
I agree with Kyle. Even though some people can manage to not relapse with pills on them, they are a gross minority. Why take the chance, if you are serious then do it, why take one risk of setting yourself up for disaster?
I hope you have flushed them, and I hope you are feeling better. Each day gets better. Please keep posting and let us know how you are doing.
hugs,
Lily
I hope you have flushed them, and I hope you are feeling better. Each day gets better. Please keep posting and let us know how you are doing.
hugs,
Lily
i, however, do not have any doubts about you wanting to be clean. i was never a flusher either. i went on a 7 month bender with vics and decided to quit still having about 5 in a bottle in the cabinet. they stayed there for over a year until i gave them to a friend who needed them.
if you are serious, and i think that you are, your will power will prevail. maybe on day 6 you can flush them, day 7, whichever. when you feel really a lot better. and you have made it far. look at you. day 6, right? and you still haven't taken them?/ that my friend is will power. keep moving forward. it does get easier.
if you are serious, and i think that you are, your will power will prevail. maybe on day 6 you can flush them, day 7, whichever. when you feel really a lot better. and you have made it far. look at you. day 6, right? and you still haven't taken them?/ that my friend is will power. keep moving forward. it does get easier.
I'm going to sign off for today. Was hoping that you would have flushed the pills already. I really have my doubts about your desire to get clean. Please prove me wrong. There is absolutely NO reason in the world for you to keep those pills. It's just plain foolishness. And as long as you have the pills you really haven't made it very far.
You are so right! I just got back from a meeting. It helped....a lot. I still am hanging in there. I never thought I could make it this far, but I am still here. I am getting the courage to flush them.
You are fighting the classic mental battle...Something like "what will two pills hurt? I deserve a little relief. I need to sleep or relax so I can keep going, detoxing".
On day two of my detox from hell I called a friend who had pills, someone who I knew would give me a couple (I ended up telling him that I was an addict, so one more source down). Told him I'd "drop by" on the weekend. That would have been day 5 of detox. I planned to get a couple because of all the reasons I listed above. Then, day 3 hit; my worst. It was horrible, but one thing was clear - getting more pills was not going to happen. That's when I told my friend everything, and explained why I wouldn't be visiting.
Flush them; stop playing the game. You take control. Stop listening to your head.
On day two of my detox from hell I called a friend who had pills, someone who I knew would give me a couple (I ended up telling him that I was an addict, so one more source down). Told him I'd "drop by" on the weekend. That would have been day 5 of detox. I planned to get a couple because of all the reasons I listed above. Then, day 3 hit; my worst. It was horrible, but one thing was clear - getting more pills was not going to happen. That's when I told my friend everything, and explained why I wouldn't be visiting.
Flush them; stop playing the game. You take control. Stop listening to your head.
I know, I need to do it. Honestly, I am afraid to take them and have to go backwards through this. But, regardless, you are right? Why have them? There is not a reason.
Flush the pills now. The longer you wait, the louder the voice will get, and the more likely you are to relapse. Why keep them if you really want to get clean?
You don't need a back up. You are facing a very dangerous time in the mental struggle to detox. If you keep the pills you will eventually take them.
And you need to cancel any scripts or refills, now.
You have fought hard to get to this point - don't throw it away.
You don't need a back up. You are facing a very dangerous time in the mental struggle to detox. If you keep the pills you will eventually take them.
And you need to cancel any scripts or refills, now.
You have fought hard to get to this point - don't throw it away.
So happy to hear from you both. It encourages me.I do have 2 pills left and I need to get rid of them. You are right. This is what did me in. Last week, I got to 4 days and took those "back up" pills which did me in. I made myself a smoothie with fruit and spinich in it. It is very difficult to eat and I am so achy. Your right, an hour has passed. Minute by minute....time moves so slow.
Do you have pills available now or in the future? Important question.
And something that helped me...Some one said "Count the minutes, count the hours - whatever it takes to get you through". That's exactly what I did. I know this sounds funny now, but you will be surprised at how fast the time passes. You replied one hour ago...That's an hour down. Excellent progress.
Are you eating? That too is very important. Keep your body fueled.
And something that helped me...Some one said "Count the minutes, count the hours - whatever it takes to get you through". That's exactly what I did. I know this sounds funny now, but you will be surprised at how fast the time passes. You replied one hour ago...That's an hour down. Excellent progress.
Are you eating? That too is very important. Keep your body fueled.
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