Help with methadone withdrawal! Please...

[ronny3]

I have been on roxicet at a heavy dose now for afew years i actually stopped about six months ago and went through the withdrawals and i made it to other side and i relapsed about 3 weeks or so into being sober.  I now have my family ready to help me so i will finally have the support i needed before.

Ok so my question is..i want to use methadone to taper off this week.  i started 2 days ago with the methadone and i expect to be off in 5-6 days completely with my taper, my question is will i have the methadone withdrawals people are talking about or will this help me get off the oxycodone pills (*roxicet) that im taking?  I will only be using methadone to taper off the other pills i was on using the minimum amount before feeling withdrawals for the first few days and now i will start to drop them.

Can anyone let me know also if im better off tapering with the roxicet or with the methadone or even suboxone for 10-14 days?

Please a response asap would save me...im really nervous and am scared as to what to do this time around..since my heart is always pounding from nerves and from my past use of pills.

_Ron

[ronny3]

nope ill flush them i dont even want them...just want this to start and be over as soon as i can get it to and its my fault im going through this so i might as well deal with what i have done...

but i feel ready and more motivated then ive ever been....

thank you for your replies and help i really appreciate it! =)

[worried878]

u go!  sounds like aplan....r u keeping any leftovers in the house or in reach?  dont..bad bad idea

[ronny3]

thank you for your replies...you know what i think im not gonna even take 5mgs tomorrow and just go for it head on...im ready and i got everything including my mind to go through with it, about time..huh

im gonna go for a walk tomorrow im actually excited to even though im not gonna be feeling good but at a trainer who hasnt worked out in a long time this could be the closest thing i got to working out... :)

i will take very little klonopin as needed and i will start taking a multivitamin tomorrow and i knew about the hot baths and showers they make you feel great for a little bit then back to reality...also when the wd's get bad i will take baclopen wich i have used for this the last time and it really helped me with sleep...ive never used colonidine and im nervous too bc the whole blood pressure thing..alot of water and fruits are good...im going for this head on...cant wait to see you all on the other side!

thank you for all your help and i will keep you posted on my progress...and ill write out the withdrawals and each day how i feel and what i did to help my wd's for people trying to quit after me...

[worried878]

clonidine does help with sleep, tummy issues and anxiety...as a rule the blood pressure spikes during wd so u should be fine...but do check ur bp as clonidine significantly lowers ur bp...klonopin is a benzo but used in small amounts for a few days will take the edge off...it u r suffering bad anxiety take the tyrosine is 500 mg daily dose for a few days then raise it to the 2000 recommended dose as it is for energy/not good if overly anxious...the theanine will help tons with anxiety and 5htp will help both depression and anxiety..imodium helps wds believe it or not plus the runs..phenergan is another drug that helps tummy issues and helps with sleep...the baclofen will do wonders for sleep right now as well...be safe and can u walk around the block or sumpin tomorrow?

[TrayCee]

I know the clonidine help LOTS!

[ronny3]

oh yeah i also have colonidine and baclophen giving by my opiate docter to help with withdrawals...he said take it up to 4 times a day as needed to help with the wd's

has anyone ever used these pills?  colonidine is usually for blood pressure but eliviates the wd's and the baclofen is a muscle relaxer to help with muscle aches and wd's as well

[TrayCee]

I just wanted to say Good Luck, your doing great!  You going to be fine.

Maybe check out my journals re: withdrawals, lots of good info there.

[ronny3]

i just read about the thomas recipe...i just called a buddy and got 10 1mg kolonipins and i have unlimited vitamins including b6 and l-tyrosine and multi vitamin since im a trainer...

so i only use kolonpins and multi-vitamin till i get past the first four days or so or till the main wd's go away...and then i use the other stuff to help me mentally..

is there anything else that can help?

Thank you

[ronny3]

thanks for the replies...

i only took 10mg earlier today and it took enough of the withdrawals away to the point where i can handle im debating still if i should do 5mgs tomorrow and that would be my last dose or just stopping...i will throw away everything tomorrow as soon as i figure out what to do..I will definately not take anything more than 5mgs tomorrow so im not even worried..this is it.

i havent worked out in 3 months, im actually a personal trainer but these pills have ruined alot of what i have achieved bodybuilding..im excited to start again but with the amount of heavy withdrawal and the amount my heart is beating i might wait a week to start training again... no meeting , i know ive needed them probably for a long time but i can never get myself to go even after i quit the last time...and what us the thomas recipe?

Thank you

[worried878]

and 5-10 mgs may be enuf..25 mgs is a heavy dose to taper with when taking at one dose....agree with above...methadone will hang around for a while..be safe and do not get carried away with the m-done..wds are no fun and u were really lucky to be able to take the edge off perhaps....have u read the thomas recipe?  r u exercising?  r u going to meetings?

[kim715]

My best advice to you would be to get rid of the rest of that methadone.If you keep it on hand you may be tempted to continue taking it and you don't want want to get yourself in a mess with that.Methadone isn't a magic bullet,you're still going to have to endure some level of discomfort from the w/ds.Time to just go ahead and face it head on and get it over with.Keep posting,lots of support and encouragement here.All the best...Kim

[ronny3]

wow when i wrote my last message a little over an hour ago i had a light withdrawal, but man this last hour it has hit me like 5000lbs of bricks fell on me...i forgot how it is to really be feeling heavy withdrawals...

i just took the last 10mg methadone that im planning on taking...my last dose of 25mgs was 23 hours and 15 mins ago, i couldnt make it to 24 hours wich i was hoping...

this might be the hardest time around..i have been taking so much more then i ever have these past 6-8 months after my two week period that i stopped and started again...

man that just scared me realized how hard its going to be, is the first day the worst or like the 2nd, 3rd, and forth days, i forgot...last time around the first 4 days i had bad withdrawals but after that it dropped so much every day till about 7 days into it and after 10 days i felt nothing and was fine..

if anyone can help that would be great....thanks

[ronny3]

i held out on 25mgs of methadone yesterday and i still havent taken anything today i still dont feel horrible wd's so im gonna wait till it really gets a little worse and take 10mg and hopefully thats the last one im hoping to take before just going through with it...

anyone know if that should be ok?  any advice? :\

[worried878]

ur welcome...and methadone is a strong narcotic even tho the high is not there.....30 mgs of methadone a day would be max if u plan o getting off in 5-6 days...u r doing the best u can and ur best is all u can do.....if u have bu11loads of methadone then flushing what u dont need would be a good idea ...can u write it out maybe to the T on the methadone taper?   may take u more like 10 days...only guessing and then be done with the done?

[ronny3]

yeah i took 25mgs at 2:30pm today and now its 9pm and im aready starting to withdraw and its coming on hard..i know i will stil feel it in afew days and im ready for it, i figured not to go all out cold turkey and use te methadone for a quick taper for 5 days or so to help ease me onto the withdrawals...

i dont want to take anything right now even though im already withdrawing, i might wait 2 hours and take 10mgs to see if i can fall asleep for afew hours and then tomorrow only take 10 mgs to 15 mgs and see if i can handle the withdrawals after that and deal with the pain ive been down this road before many times but i have support and im not hiding it so i think that will be the biggest help for me.  i have an irregular heartbeat b/c of the pills and thats why im scared to go cold turkey like i used to always do.  my heart is already pounding so im hoping that coming onto wd's gradually wont put as much pressure on my heart even though im already feeling it pounding :\

thank you for your reply...

[worried878]

no....it would be odd if u became addicted to methadone that fast..actually a study was done and it was found that sub is more "quickly" addicting than methadone.....thing is at ur dose in 5-6 days u still r not gonna feel "perfect"  or "normal" whatever normal may be...so be prepared for that...it probably wont be methadone addiction but the remnants of ur roxy addiction....a short taper with either sub or methadone is usually not addicting but thing is people do not get off in time....methadone is not a dirty drug/very similar in many aspcts to sub..and it has helped many people,,,has a bad name attached to it and so will sub in a few years...one thing about methadone is that it is prescribed for pain here in the US on a regualar basis..when sub is on ur pharmacy record it is a dead give away that u r an addict.....be safe

[ronny3]

thank you for your reply...i am not feeling any high from what i am taking. i took exactly the amount that took away the wd's...but since i dont want to use it more then 5 days i will taper dramatically and expect tonight to be hell...

i just hope the 5 days wont let me body get addicted to the methadone also and that i will only withdraw from my roxicet addiction and the methadone will just help me taper so that the withdrawals i feel when im off are much easier to go through...

but i thank you for the reply  makes me feel a little more at ease.

i cant wait to get clean i forgot what it feels like to be free!

[dres]

I did the methadone taper last year.I was started at 30mg a day then went down from there over a 3 week period.Since the methadone never gave me any kind of high it worked well for me.I never got anything from it so I didnt ever feel any loss when I quit taking it.

[ronny3]

i just read a ton of posts and now im really scared....did i screw up here.

i said in my post above that i did 25mgs today and i was going to do 15mg to 20mgs later in the day well im not anymore.

i will wait till tomorrow and do 10mgs to 15mgs and maybe one more day of 10mgs and stop.

is that too many days on methadone, please im scared and not sure if 4-5 days using methadone to taper is too much, please if anyone knows if that wont be bad and my body wont get addicted to it that fast??

Thank you for your time

[ronny3]

just to let you all know i was taking 30mg roxicets about 270mgs to 370mgs a day usually split into 2 or sometimes 3 doses...

i got 30 methadone 10mg pills

i started thursday night and took 35mgs that took enough of the withdrawals away till the next day on friday i took 25mgs in the morning and 25mgs at night.
today is saterday and i took 25mgs and im hoping to take 15mg to 20mgs at night and then do another drop till im off in about 5-7 days..

thank you for your time...if anyone can help me