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I jumped off opiates yesterday. Horrid please help me.

I was weaning doc gave me some norco dropping by one every five days. Well, lets say I found the hidden bottle and dropped 5 mg at a time. So when I was down to 45 mg I took my last yesterday at 11 am Sunday it's Monday 130 PM and withdrawals started last night after my last dose was missing. Woke up and OMG this day has been awful and it's been 26 1/2 hours since last norco. I could give you the seconds since I'm clock watching praying time speeds up. I have clonidine patch on take Xanax  and was getting no relief. Started searching for pills around and decided not to. Then looking for online sub docs, decided not to. My habit was 80 mg for a year, getting down to 40 mg norco a day then off ct yesterday. I never ever smoked pot but at this time who cares really, if it works I don't care. So I smoked a bit and it seems to help a little bit. I don't think I smoked much cause I was scared of what it may do to me. Anyone has GOOD experience with using pot. Please no negative right now. Will these withdrawls get worse from here? Sleepy, irritated, moody,leg cramps, diarrhea and can't eat. Very sore all over and I'm on 27 hours, God I pray this does not get worse. Please let me know.
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Hey I have .1 mg tablets of clonidine too for my anxiety. Do they help? I was to scared to try them.
Ad I've been a heavy pot smoker for 5 years I rip my 3 foot bong probably about 30-40 times trough a day. Haa.
But the last week has been horrid with these WD I can't even stand being high. If you have anxiety issues with having to take clonidine then don't smoke weed. It will just run your mind crazy.
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Well 99 hours clean and don't want to ever look at another opiate again. I know you are saying I will have stress in my life and need to learn to deal with it cause popping helped deal with the issues. Yes, it did. But this is my first issue with pain pills, I'm 45 my first withdrawal. Withdrawals lasted for two days, the first 24 hours were awful. Not to wake up with my coffee and eat two pills was a weird experience, felt like I lost a friend. At the 24 th hour I started searching for sub clinics, thinking heck no can't do this. I decided to not trade one pill for another. Tuesday morning had all withdrawal symptoms hard.  Thinking this cannot get worse, but it did. Then wham!! off with the clonidine patch, sedating me to much to where I can't sleep but sedated to where you can't get up if you want to. And physical is important, helps so so much. By the 29 th hour I was fine, thinking was and is  still hazy, a little blonde) sorry blondes. Taking the Thomas recipe and my added personal to which I believe that's why my wd was shorter.   I drank a gallon of green tea very day and peed like a race horse. Took the Thomas minus l tyro (can't take that with Xanax per research). I forced myself to not lay there, I cleaned, cooked and tried watching movies. Now the first 24 I was in and out of sleep all day....I so so wanted to wean, but just did not work out for me. Got down to 40mg, 50 if I found the bottle(kinda like a daily Easter egg hunt). Doc stopped prescribing, no where to get them and all I could say was uhhhh ohhhhh!!!!!! I felt it was time and I am babying a habit if I wean,  withdrawals are withdrawals and it is what it is. I had to keep saying that to where I started to believe it.. I was watching every single hour on the hour counting the time like a hawk, had it on my iphone going off every five hours clean, rewarding it was to keep getting those messages of time I've been off.
Waiting for this to get the heck out of my system so I can say I did it. Well, I did it!!! Not saying the fog is 100% been leaving my purse everywhere, forgot to turn off oven. But today is far better thinking than yesterday. I make myself and get out to the store, to have some communication which helped me a lot. I was on this site every single day ...looking...researching...whining ....posting...and now helping. I hope someone tries this and comes back and says wd was 24 hours. :) so happy I can cry!!!!
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I don't know what happened.  At 48 hours I woke up... I saw light. I took that dang clonidine patch off which sedated me to the point I laid in misery awake but sedated, took no pain away. Off it came 7 hours ago and I cleaned the house, drove to the post office and grabbed a Starbucks .... This is not a calm before the storm is it!!!!!! Again one year of 50 to 80 mg vicodin. Down to 40 the last month.. Then off 49 hours ago. First day horrid, Took it off and feel so so much better!!!! It was so sedating all I could do is lay there and feel sorry for myself. Did not let me sleep, just could not move in pain and that's the worst. Took it off 7 hours ago and I drove to the post office, got a Starbucks and now cooking dinner.. Wtf!!!!its 48 hours post last vicodin, could this be over? A little leg soreness, a little irritable ...that's it..Thomas recipe rocks!!!! Lets hope I'm not getting prematurely happy...one year of 50 to 80 mg of norco first day HORRID, all day yesterday was death, this morning the flu, took off patch and feel good. Not normal at 100%, sleepy from waking up at 2 AM... Is this a calm before the storm... Is this going to get better or return again worse... I feel awesome right now like I can do this no problem.    Legs still sore, tummy a little upset, a little tiny mentally fuzzy but nothing like the last 2 days...
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Smoking pot didn't work for me but everyone is different. I know it's hard but you need to keep yourself busy, Movies, TV, Video Games or Music. Watching time tick by is torture!
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Okay it's 2 AM and up. Slept for about 5 hours, which is better than I thought I would. Can I repeat if I have not said this... This f$&)(;,,!!!!!!!! *****...I'm on 40 hours clean, nose running( can deal with that). The leg stuff is what I struggle with , no cravings at all. I never want to see a pill again. My brain feels like its trying to think clear but malfunctions a bit.  So lets hope the peak was back at 36 hours, cause I get a lot of different info. I was on for a little over a year, Norco, 80 mg a day he last month down to 50 mg. I would think mine would not be this bad. Gosh, I feel for the heavy hitters... I could not do this if worse than this, so to those who did... I just can't see how you could and envy that.  I still see no light at the end, I'm just waiting for it.. Maybe I'm a big baby but I had a 10 pound boy 23 years ago and did not use medication nor scream, I thought the other some were making more than what is was... Now this is harder for me and I'm making  more than what it is, I think...so 40 hours now, Imodium helps big time, clonidine patch, I have no clue if it helps or not... It's 40 hours into, when can I take this sedating patch off? Maybe that's making me feel like my brain won't work. Most of what I read with my dose I should peak at 36 hours, so God please let that be the case.. Does ANYONE know when I should take this clonidine patch off, it's sedating me and making my brain not work... Thinking its delaying me seeing any light due to the sedative nature...
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Yes that was me doing the search for the pill bottle when my husband left. He caught on and took them to work. I have taken Xanax for 20 years for acute anxiety, don't abuse them, I take a low dose and the only thing that allows me to get outside due to agoraphobia. Pot eased the anxiety and helped me sleep. At that point I did not care what it was as long as a little relief was found other than a flipping pill.thank you
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480448 tn?1426948538
Haven't you tried a taper before and you always "find pills"?  I'm just trying to remember.  If so, this is probably for the best...as you just don't have the self control to taper.

The other big red flag for me is that you seem to be desperately reaching for anything (Xanax, pot, etc) for some relief.  While I CERTAINLY understand that...you have to be careful, especially with the Xanax.  The smoking weed I think you would be better off without, just from what people have posted about allowing your brain to heal chemically free.  The other issue is access...you have to cut your sources, or you will tempted.  You can DO this!!!  Keep posting bud!!  I'm pulling for you!
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Weed helped me by taking my mind off of what I was dealing with but honestly subs helped me to get clean. I know many people will preach the evils of suboxone but I only have positive things to say about it. Subs saved my life and got me through what would have been an awful detox. This is only my experience but know that subs are not always a bad experience...make your own decision about them but don't dismiss the idea based just on what people say here....
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4204073 tn?1361831476
The physical part usually peaks at an average of around 48 hours.   Some sooner, some later.   Some it takes up to 72 hours.   You have made it this far, so keep going.  You are doing this!!     If you can let yourself be ok with not being ok for another 12-24 hours, you will get past the worst of it.   I promise!   Like others have said, when we get sick with the flu, there is nothing we can do but treat the symptoms and let is ride it's course.  Same thing here.   Your body is ridding itself of the toxins and adjusting to living without them at the same time.  When you think about it, it's truly a miracle how quickly the body can heal itself.   We didn't get here over night, so it's going to take a little time to heal.    As far as MJ goes, during wd it seemed to increase my anxiety.   I was already tired and it just made me even more tired.  Which in one way is good because we need to sleep and when we do, the time passes more quickly.   And it gives you an appetite and you need to eat to heal.    Everyone is different, so if it works for you, then more power to you.   Keep on truckin...it does get better!  
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4341997 tn?1514588688
Just wanted to lend my support...i was taking 12-14 norco a day and CT from them....it was a rough first week but i got thru it and you will too!   Take what you need from the Thomas recipe....the otc stuff does work,  imodium, gatorade, ensure or boost when you can't eat....but eat what you can, when you can, bananas, fruit....anything will help,  especially protein....try protein shakes as well...most of all hydrate!  water and gatorade....B12 liquid for energy....and a multivitamin.  Your energy and sleep will come back...it just takes time...hang in there!  you can do this!  
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One way to look at your condition is the flu analogy stated above.  When you get the flu, there is not alot you can do about it.  Treat the symptoms, then relax and let the virus run its course.  

The recommendations on this forum work.  I just completed cold turkey so I am not the expert.  But, go take the hot bath that was recommended.  Get the vitamins and suppliments shown in the Thomas recipe.  They work!!!!

Your body has learned to live with the hydro and now has to adjust to living without the hydro.  By day 4 or 5 you will be a new person.  

Eat as much as you can and smoke pot if it helps!!!!!!  For me, a normal dose of NyQuil at night helped alot.  You can do this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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1416133 tn?1351123217
hmm...I think I'm confused about the subs? I'm sorry if I made a mistake!
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1416133 tn?1351123217
I'm sorry you're struggling so much.  I remember those days.  Very well.

And I don't think the subs is the way to go.  Remember, you can't expect to feel better right now.  It's better to just accept the face that you're going to feel like **** for a while.  I promise you it makes this a little easier.  Fighting it?  That's going to drive you crazy and make you feel a million times worse.

I say keep going.  And let yourself be in a bad mood and just accept that.  We didn't get into this mess overnight and I promise you we can't get out of it overnight either.  But you're doing the right thing.   You quit.  (and when you're feeling a little better, you're going to need to find the right kind of aftercare that you think will work for you.  But one step at a time).
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Thank you much as today, the 30 hours now have been a nightmare. I thought I was strong but I now doubt that assumption. I do have 7 0.1 mg of clonidine pills left. Thinking about taking this patch off. I just want to get to day four to see some light, that's it. The pot allows me to eat, again never ever smoked it until now. I think I'd try anything other than then getting back on pills. I called a doc who does suboxene, scary stuff. But is it worth it since I'm at 30 hours already? I just want to get past this physical part, I have aid on the mental. I just want to get up from the couch and feel somewhat normal and be able to move without having to go back and roll in a ball. So 11 tonight is 36 hours, and indeed I'm watching every hour. Am I almost over to start seeing light? To start feeling a bit of energy, my old self? To want to get up and be able to get up from the couch? Gosh, I never imagined it so hard, I never imagined I would get myself into this hell. Counting down.....
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4626633 tn?1382597122
I can't give any experience with pot, just words of encouragement.  I ct'd too.
I watched the clock as well. This was my first experience ever, as I had never even ran out of meds.
So I listened to everyone say the worst flu ever, but remembered there was a light at the end.
Each hour that passed was an hour closer to being WELL.
I only wish I would have armed myself with more sleeping aids. I slept well compared to most, so not complaining. I got 8-12 hours a night.
With sleeping aids, I probably would have been able to sleep through it all.
Clonidine is a life saver during this. I have heard the patch not doing as well as the pills though.
Not sure why, one would think a steady dose would be better.
I have been on it for two years, for other reasons, and had to trade the patch for pills. Just an idea.

This part will be better in a few days. As hard as that is to remember during acute withdrawls, it is going to go away.
Here for you!
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4610518 tn?1361075748
I think smoking pot helps... It takes the edge off and helped me sleep. I am not a smoker but someone told me it helped so I did.  you will feel better soon hang in there. Day 4 or 5 seems to be the magical # to start feeling better.
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4823849 tn?1373657829
You poor thing! I know your pain as I've tried to make a huge jump before. I'm in the process of Tapering right now, but there are MANY people here that have made the big leap and they will give you excellent advice. They have all been successful and can help you. It feels awful right now I know. Can you take a bath? Go get in a HOT shower or bath as soon as you can... it will help, then you can figure out next steps. Don't worry, you're going to get a ton of support here. BTW: I can't answer on the pot front - I live in California and the weed here (even medicinal) is so freaking strong, it gives me panic attacks. Best of luck and keep us posted on how you are doing!  
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