IS THIS 'DETOX'?? DIFFERENT TO OTHER TIME

[Tswana]

I am in agony!! i dropped theOxy's over 50% by taking 20mg and for the 4 day's i also had  or 4 Codine as well to stop the runs a bit as they were too much t cope with +the pain. and bad guts I still got gut problem's but the codine is WAY weaker than the Oxy's. I have checked . I am also taking niacin l tyorisine, acai berry capsules high in vit C ans other stuff S-ame 400mg, drinking lot's of fruit an herbal tea, water, and managing to get smoothies down, or was. But my appatite is gone last 2 day's.

AND i came out in itchy rash from Niacin +flushing re and itching. I think this is because i took too much but i have the non flush one's Niacinamide so i can take tht insted but will leave it for today and start them at lower dose to morrow. The Naicin is too high i believe but THAT will detox you. So that maybe flushing stuff out quicker. And my tounge is yuck!!

Its the toxins coming out as its thick white coating and very thirsty too. It's not Thrush i know it's not , i can see the difference between which is which. And also diet changes i been living on Banana smoothies +black grapes,dry  gogi berries,soaked first. Blue berries, apple's, pear's. oranges. When i can face them in smoothies with added spring water. I never eat much fruit normally BUT i did't want to end up on a junk food bender like i did when i stopped drinking load's of chocolate and ice cream which is common after stopping booze and other drugs.

I can hardly move to day . I want to go to SMART this afternoon and NA Tonight as well and i can't go anywhere with the runs and i need that sharing atmosphere . NA make it clear that it's NOT religious which i DON'T want, the people at NA are 'Spiritual' not GOD bother's as my friend call's him self as he alway's talking to GOD. He don;t do Church but he's got belief and the same reason i have. Churches 'SEPARATE' us from GOD when they talk about us NOT being one with the 'DIVINE' as if GOD gave us life away from him? WRONG!!! we're ALL part of GOD that's where the belief system is wrong. We are UNIFIED not seperate at all. Anyway, i went to AA on Sat as well bue they were too much about being 'SEPARATE' form the 'Source' of everything?  

That takes AWAY your 'POWER' we are not what you see outside but i won't get in to that. I am also very swollen all over and i can't work out which pain is which anymore i am also aware of 'Preticapated withdrawal' getting the same pain or near to doing CT the dose i'm at now is a big drop in a short time but i GOT to get to NA an SMART it's no good staying away from help but if it get's any worse i can't see me going anywhere but i am going to do what i can. Its just all the swelling and locking up and my lungs feel raw and i feel really dry as well. I am having stuff happening that never before with WD's and i feel like the pilsbury dough boy with the swelling as it's all over.

I'm just bothered by stuff i never had happening to me before during WD's and wondered if anyone else has ever had it and how long it may go on for. And it's day 4 at the dropped doe. Codine is no where near as strong as oxy's but i'm not taking any more than 3 or 4 no matter what. That won't be a problem for a few day's at all i can take them for a bit and got no problem stopping them over the short term. And i am sober as well. I drank heavy last time i stopped Opiates and Diazapam. So maybe it;s just i'm more aware? But the locking up an swelling and my spinal cord is in horredess pain

[ricart70]

Hey there !  I just want to add my support and best wishes for you. I hope you will be doing better soon. I know you are trying very hard and it is tough. Hang in there friend ;)))

[Merri123]

BRAT dietfor the runs with Imodium - bananas, rice, applesauce and toast. May want to skip the bananas right now.

And for the pain - a nice hot shower or ahot bath with epson salts. Just lay back and relax.

You know with AA and NA they try to disassociate with GOD specifically so theydon'tturn off the ones that don't believe. But the principles were founded on Bill's letting go of his alcoholism and giving it to GOD to get better. And he did. But now they say whatever your higher piwer is, then that is what you believe. I truly feel tiu can only overcome with GOD's help but that is my belief.

But don't give up on the meetings bc you do not agree with everything that is said. You won't agree woth al of it or everyone that goes. But tslking and lustening willhelp you. The steps work. Take out if it what you need for yourself and don't worry about what others say or believe.

I hope you feel better really soon.

[weaver71]

I started eating whole grain oats or rice when it was real bad. I didn't want to eat anything, but I think the amino acids and cleansing fiber helped. My travels have landed me with many stomach issues over the years. Plain brown rice worked for parasites, so I figured opiates apply. Westerners tend to eat too little whole grain in general, other than processed bread, so t's a good habit to form, which I'm sure you know. That's a fast drop, it will pass.

[vicki595]

Hi baby-  They say every detox is different and then as we get older our bodies become rebellious!   Be gentle with yourself now; that was a huge drop in dosage...

You probably need more water and electrolytes because your body is hanging on to fluid. Drinking more will get you peeing more and the puffiness should go down...get a little walking in between naps, too, and do some stretching for your back if you can.

Above all, rest today!  That drop in Oxy really stressed your body!  xo

[Tswana]

SPIDER XXXXXXXXXXX I was drinking 2 kilo's of bananas in smoothies in 2 day's but i can only drik fluid's right now xxx

[Tswana]

I can't move now the paun and evryting is getting way worse im just going to trylay down nothing elswe i can do the runs is the WD's it's stopped now BUT it may start again at some point that's happened b 4 it's just temporary as the imodium made me feel ill and blocked me up. I had to take a smal break i was losing way to much body fluids but it's not going to last for long by the next 2 hour's it will take the codine out again.

But that's ok i'm not taking more i had to do something it is too dangerous to allow some things to go on when you got health problems as qell. Otherwise i'd stay offf everything to let it run it's course. All im doing is slowing the runs down for a mionte but everything else is getting wprse by the minute and i can just about deal with fluids. And the paranoi is doing my head in !!!!!!! The Guy upstairs is home on the sick and banging around above my haed and my ear's are noise sensitive. Its lucky i am in so much pain because i'm getting very anxious and vexsatious now. He can be right childish on times he grew up across the rd from me and younger. A spoilt B%$£! only Son AND the 'BABY' of 5 %$£"!!!

[spider6]

Ya, if you're not used to the fruit.....def. stick with bananas. Maybe some peppermint tea and toast.   Lay off the codeine and take Imodium instead for runs.

[dominosarah]

Sometimes all that fruit can give you the runs too,  I would maybe back off them a bit for a couple days.