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Methadone & Oxycontin Mixed!
Can someone please tell me if methadone gives you the same side effects as Oxycontin?.. I'm not to sure how this all works but my boyfriend has been an Oxycontin addict for almost 2 years and is now started the Methadone treatment.. It seems like hes doing the same actions as he was as on Oxycontin nodding out, falling asleep sitting up and his face is breaking out in hives, all the same affects as Oxycontin!!!... He has started the treatment (45ml) 3 days ago the first times he had took the Methadone he went about his day fine and today hes acting really weird.. WHY?...
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i was just doing a search and came across these posts.
i havent read them all in full so i may just b repeating what others have said but i will share what i know.
i was on methdone for just over 2 years,it sounds like ur partner may have been given too higher dose to begin with..symptoms of dose being too high can include..nodding off,nausea,shallow breathing,pinpoint pupils,dizziness,heart palpitation,problems with sexual functioning.....if a dose is too low the side effects resemble those of coming off heroin,flu like symptoms,weakness,yawning,muscle spasm,irritability,sweating..the list goes on.
however when i first started methadone i did feel comfortably numb.it doesnt take long b4 there is a desire to up the dose because for me,as my body adjusted i wanted that feeling i had when i first started. as i increased my dose i never did feel that initial euphoria i experienced for the first week or so.
symptoms unrelated to dosage include sweating,constipation,aching muscles/joints,skin rashes,itching,fluid retention,loss of appetite,tooth decay,abdominal cramps..i kept upping the dose but it did not stop me from using heroin.i decided to taper down once i got the heroin under wraps and felt pretty ****** most of the time.at 40mg i took myself off cold turkey at home.58 days of a hell i never imagined.given methadone depresses your nervous system, any other drugs like benzodiazepines or alcohol should be used with extreme caution.if he really wants to help himself the best thing he can do is go to NA meetings or join an online support group.dont let him get complacent about staying on methadone... everyones experience is unique but my view is its a ****** ****** drug and i agreed to it in a desperate state of mind.if i knew then what i know now i would never ever have agreed to it.if he is hell bent on replacemnt therapy, suboxone or bupe has fewer side effects. the information i have given is based on my experience and dosage side effects from the australian drug foundation, the australian peak body in drug issues.he sounds very lucky to have you, i pray that things work out for you both.x
i was just doing a search and came across these posts.
i havent read them all in full so i may just b repeating what others have said but i will share what i know.
i was on methdone for just over 2 years,it sounds like ur partner may have been given too higher dose to begin with..symptoms of dose being too high can include..nodding off,nausea,shallow breathing,pinpoint pupils,dizziness,heart palpitation,problems with sexual functioning.....if a dose is too low the side effects resemble those of coming off heroin,flu like symptoms,weakness,yawning,muscle spasm,irritability,sweating..the list goes on.
however when i first started methadone i did feel comfortably numb.it doesnt take long b4 there is a desire to up the dose because for me,as my body adjusted i wanted that feeling i had when i first started. as i increased my dose i never did feel that initial euphoria i experienced for the first week or so.
symptoms unrelated to dosage include sweating,constipation,aching muscles/joints,skin rashes,itching,fluid retention,loss of appetite,tooth decay,abdominal cramps..i kept upping the dose but it did not stop me from using heroin.i decided to taper down once i got the heroin under wraps and felt pretty ****** most of the time.at 40mg i took myself off cold turkey at home.58 days of a hell i never imagined.given methadone depresses your nervous system, any other drugs like benzodiazepines or alcohol should be used with extreme caution.if he really wants to help himself the best thing he can do is go to NA meetings or join an online support group.dont let him get complacent about staying on methadone... everyones experience is unique but my view is its a ****** ****** drug and i agreed to it in a desperate state of mind.if i knew then what i know now i would never ever have agreed to it.if he is hell bent on replacemnt therapy, suboxone or bupe has fewer side effects. the information i have given is based on my experience and dosage side effects from the australian drug foundation, the australian peak body in drug issues.he sounds very lucky to have you, i pray that things work out for you both.x
Why wait till Monday? As I previously said, you may have legal issues communicating with the clinic/Doc. Something is missing that the Doc sez "it's normal". Somewhere "What We Have Here Is A Failure To Communicate.........."
Addicts justify mentally what they do by many different means. Of course None of us know shi t about what we're talking about. I was only on Methadone for I think four (?) years. I know Jack Shi t. He's a buddy of mine. Keep us posted. Hang in there. Bless Ya.
Addicts justify mentally what they do by many different means. Of course None of us know shi t about what we're talking about. I was only on Methadone for I think four (?) years. I know Jack Shi t. He's a buddy of mine. Keep us posted. Hang in there. Bless Ya.
Hey everyone thanks all
Ok so hes still at the same dose and I also got him to read all these comments that eveyone wrote soo and say "they dont know what there talking about"ugh I cant get nothing through his damn head!!! I'm going to call the doctors office on Monday, he told his doctor so he sys he did that hes getting all the side effects and the doctor said oh thats normal, any ways I think theres something wrong with that.. I'm putting my foot down soon I cant put up with this stresss no longer!!!
Ok so hes still at the same dose and I also got him to read all these comments that eveyone wrote soo and say "they dont know what there talking about"ugh I cant get nothing through his damn head!!! I'm going to call the doctors office on Monday, he told his doctor so he sys he did that hes getting all the side effects and the doctor said oh thats normal, any ways I think theres something wrong with that.. I'm putting my foot down soon I cant put up with this stresss no longer!!!
How are you doing today? We've been thinking about you and hoping things are looking up. :-)
Jaybay nailed it with her last post. Some go to the methadone clinic for the right reasons and those reasons are to get stability in their life, stay on the lowest dose possible, seek aftercare such as counseling, and have a plan to taper off of it one day. They are sick of the hectic lifestyle and sick of chasing a high they can't always get. They get sick of this life and sick of the high. They want a change. Going to a methadone clinic gets them out of the drug seeking behaviors. Even though they are still on a very strong opiate they are on a low enough dose to where they don't feel stoned out of their mind and are able to go on with an everyday "normal" life.
You also have the people that the are spending every penny they have on street drugs and are constantly trying to chase that high. Some steal, lie, and do everything they can do get money so they can buy their drugs to get high. But they are not always able to get the drug the want either because they don't have the money or they can't find their drug that day. After awhile they get sick of this life but don't get sick of the high. They go to a methadone clinic because it is cheaper, they know they can keep getting their dose raised in order to get a bigger buzz by just simply saying they are still having withdrawals and thinking about using, and they can get their drug everyday legally. A lot of these doctors probably feel as long as their patients are using other drugs that it's fine to keep upping their dose.
Your boyfriend seems to fit in the second half of the second category. I'm not saying he was stealing or anything but he still wants the high whether it is from oxys or from methadone. Like Jaybay said, he knows damn well what he is doing. If he's walking acting the way you described he is stoned out of his mind. I'm sure he's already had them up his dose just so he can get that bigger buzz. He knows he is playing you. He feels he's in the clear because you recommended the clinic. What he is doing is no different than when he was on the oxys. You can't make someone get clean. They have to want it. Sure, methadone can be a great option for someone who wants to get clean but it can be the devil for someone that is still wanting that high.
Maybe you can talk to him about dropping his dose. Maybe talk to him about starting to taper off. The thing is he's not going to do it if he's not ready to get clean. You have a long road ahead of you until he is ready. It may be a week from now or it may be ten years from now. Right now you need to look out for you. You may have to start playing hardball to get through to him. Don't let him play you any longer. Call him on his lies. I'm sure he is laughing on the inside because he feels that you think he is doing what you want him to when he is actually playing you and the clinic.
You also have the people that the are spending every penny they have on street drugs and are constantly trying to chase that high. Some steal, lie, and do everything they can do get money so they can buy their drugs to get high. But they are not always able to get the drug the want either because they don't have the money or they can't find their drug that day. After awhile they get sick of this life but don't get sick of the high. They go to a methadone clinic because it is cheaper, they know they can keep getting their dose raised in order to get a bigger buzz by just simply saying they are still having withdrawals and thinking about using, and they can get their drug everyday legally. A lot of these doctors probably feel as long as their patients are using other drugs that it's fine to keep upping their dose.
Your boyfriend seems to fit in the second half of the second category. I'm not saying he was stealing or anything but he still wants the high whether it is from oxys or from methadone. Like Jaybay said, he knows damn well what he is doing. If he's walking acting the way you described he is stoned out of his mind. I'm sure he's already had them up his dose just so he can get that bigger buzz. He knows he is playing you. He feels he's in the clear because you recommended the clinic. What he is doing is no different than when he was on the oxys. You can't make someone get clean. They have to want it. Sure, methadone can be a great option for someone who wants to get clean but it can be the devil for someone that is still wanting that high.
Maybe you can talk to him about dropping his dose. Maybe talk to him about starting to taper off. The thing is he's not going to do it if he's not ready to get clean. You have a long road ahead of you until he is ready. It may be a week from now or it may be ten years from now. Right now you need to look out for you. You may have to start playing hardball to get through to him. Don't let him play you any longer. Call him on his lies. I'm sure he is laughing on the inside because he feels that you think he is doing what you want him to when he is actually playing you and the clinic.
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if he is noding out he is taking to much he could probably get by on 30ml starting out
what ever he does dont let them keep moving you dose higher and higher they do that at a lot of the clinics and it makes getting off it long and drawn out literally months try to use this just long enough to get off the oxy then start weening off methadone withdrawals are the worst of the narcotics you want to minimize you exposure to it as much as possible
tomorrow ask them at the clinic if they can move him down to 30ml also bring up the side effects methadone can become deadly if you react to it keep posting to let us know what happens good luck and God bless......Gnarly