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Methadone & Oxycontin Mixed!
Can someone please tell me if methadone gives you the same side effects as Oxycontin?.. I'm not to sure how this all works but my boyfriend has been an Oxycontin addict for almost 2 years and is now started the Methadone treatment.. It seems like hes doing the same actions as he was as on Oxycontin nodding out, falling asleep sitting up and his face is breaking out in hives, all the same affects as Oxycontin!!!... He has started the treatment (45ml) 3 days ago the first times he had took the Methadone he went about his day fine and today hes acting really weird.. WHY?...
He doesn't want you to go with him because he's got a great source for a legal buzz now. He knows darn well that if you tell them about what you see every day, they'll knock his dose down to a non-buzzable level. God only knows what he's telling them to get the dose increased that quickly, but I seriously doubt it's anywhere near the truth.
The danger with methadone is not so much seizures, but pulmonary failure. Nod out; stop breathing; heart stops beating; death.
I'm sure you know by now exactly how manipulative addiction can make a person. Everything you write tells me your boyfriend is not at all serious about treating his addiction. He's just trying to get you off his back by going to a clinic, but he's still abusing drugs. He's just switched from oxy to methadone.
I suggest that when he goes to the clinic next time (and pray to God he's not so whacked that he gets into an accident) pick up the phone and call them. Tell them what you've been seeing since he started therapy. If he finds out you snitched, well tough toenails. Be prepared to lay down the law. Either he flies right, tells the truth, lets you go to appointments with him AND hold his meds and dose it out, or one of you leaves. The man you love is still in there, he's just eaten up with a disease called addiction. It's entirely possible that nothing you say or do will make a darn bit of difference to him. That's why you have to be prepared to back up your words with action. God grant you the strength to do what you have to do for you and your child.
The danger with methadone is not so much seizures, but pulmonary failure. Nod out; stop breathing; heart stops beating; death.
I'm sure you know by now exactly how manipulative addiction can make a person. Everything you write tells me your boyfriend is not at all serious about treating his addiction. He's just trying to get you off his back by going to a clinic, but he's still abusing drugs. He's just switched from oxy to methadone.
I suggest that when he goes to the clinic next time (and pray to God he's not so whacked that he gets into an accident) pick up the phone and call them. Tell them what you've been seeing since he started therapy. If he finds out you snitched, well tough toenails. Be prepared to lay down the law. Either he flies right, tells the truth, lets you go to appointments with him AND hold his meds and dose it out, or one of you leaves. The man you love is still in there, he's just eaten up with a disease called addiction. It's entirely possible that nothing you say or do will make a darn bit of difference to him. That's why you have to be prepared to back up your words with action. God grant you the strength to do what you have to do for you and your child.
HI.....the clinics are bad about bumping up the dose it usually takes a bit longer here to get to 100ml but its not uncommon its just sad 30 ml is enough to hold most people over this just makes coming off it that much harder...the clinic will bring you down 2ml every 2 weeks
so its painfully slow....I hate to say it but most are in it for the money....all I had tyo say was my back is hurting and they would move my dose up...I got up to 150ml that was the max the clinic I went to would go.....all I know is you dont want to stay on it any amount of time
the withdrawals are miserable and last a long time...it took me 8 1/2 mo to get off of it
you can do a quick detox like 21 day that progam is different then maintenance and it sounds like there setting your b/f up for long term maintenance...kepp us up to date keep posting for support and good luck with this mess.......Gnarly
so its painfully slow....I hate to say it but most are in it for the money....all I had tyo say was my back is hurting and they would move my dose up...I got up to 150ml that was the max the clinic I went to would go.....all I know is you dont want to stay on it any amount of time
the withdrawals are miserable and last a long time...it took me 8 1/2 mo to get off of it
you can do a quick detox like 21 day that progam is different then maintenance and it sounds like there setting your b/f up for long term maintenance...kepp us up to date keep posting for support and good luck with this mess.......Gnarly
(2:30a.m. Sunday,Oct 24)
So a few hours have past by and I got him on the couch asleep, he seems a bit better Im keeping an eye on him I can hear him breathing fine, now the only thing is I don't want to close my eyes, I just want it to be morning already ugh!!!
Every little noise makes me get up to check on him, I walk slowly down the hall hoping hes not in seizure and that hes fine (I'm so scared) ..........
Oh and another thing is that he was trying to explain something about his METHADONE refill slip I noticed it was saying 100mg for the METHADONE and 15mg for the grape juice but then he was saying it wasn't 100mg..... UGH why dose this all seem like one big **** up, I also told him that I want it to go with him tomorrow when get gets his METHADONE so I could talk to someone about what dose hes taking but weird thing is he said that he don't want me to go cause he scared that I might get him kicked off the treatment..
But I wont... I know I effin got him to this point damn it... Any ways I'm really hoping that they didnt fool up any thing on him ]0= cause that may explain why hes so wasted going from he now says 35ml which I thought it was 45ml & then to 55mls tp 100mls hummm, I shall find out tomorrow for sure!!
Thanks for the support friends your very kind, night all (:
So a few hours have past by and I got him on the couch asleep, he seems a bit better Im keeping an eye on him I can hear him breathing fine, now the only thing is I don't want to close my eyes, I just want it to be morning already ugh!!!
Every little noise makes me get up to check on him, I walk slowly down the hall hoping hes not in seizure and that hes fine (I'm so scared) ..........
Oh and another thing is that he was trying to explain something about his METHADONE refill slip I noticed it was saying 100mg for the METHADONE and 15mg for the grape juice but then he was saying it wasn't 100mg..... UGH why dose this all seem like one big **** up, I also told him that I want it to go with him tomorrow when get gets his METHADONE so I could talk to someone about what dose hes taking but weird thing is he said that he don't want me to go cause he scared that I might get him kicked off the treatment..
But I wont... I know I effin got him to this point damn it... Any ways I'm really hoping that they didnt fool up any thing on him ]0= cause that may explain why hes so wasted going from he now says 35ml which I thought it was 45ml & then to 55mls tp 100mls hummm, I shall find out tomorrow for sure!!
Thanks for the support friends your very kind, night all (:
HI....why did I just know they would move up his dose....GRRRR.....I hate methadone clinics
from what your saying things are not good normally methadone takes away the desire for the pills except if you want a buzz then people mix and it is dangerous to mix anything with methadone be especially careful if theirs the possibility of xanex being mixed in this is deadly especially for someone just starting out....your going to have to become pro active here and go doawn to the clinic with him and tell them whats going on....if hes using oxy they will ketch it in the first u/a they give him but the methadone alone can cause you to nod off he is still acting like an addict buy telling them he needs more if he was already noding he very well my be trying to get high on it and if dosed correctly methadone dosent get you high
for the sake of both you and your child together go to the clinic with him and speek to the nurse on call and tell her he is nodding off constantly or this is just going to get worst all he has to do is tell them it not holding him over and there going to keep uping his dose ...I really feel for you but the only hope is if you intervene keep posting for support good luck and God bless......Gnarly
from what your saying things are not good normally methadone takes away the desire for the pills except if you want a buzz then people mix and it is dangerous to mix anything with methadone be especially careful if theirs the possibility of xanex being mixed in this is deadly especially for someone just starting out....your going to have to become pro active here and go doawn to the clinic with him and tell them whats going on....if hes using oxy they will ketch it in the first u/a they give him but the methadone alone can cause you to nod off he is still acting like an addict buy telling them he needs more if he was already noding he very well my be trying to get high on it and if dosed correctly methadone dosent get you high
for the sake of both you and your child together go to the clinic with him and speek to the nurse on call and tell her he is nodding off constantly or this is just going to get worst all he has to do is tell them it not holding him over and there going to keep uping his dose ...I really feel for you but the only hope is if you intervene keep posting for support good luck and God bless......Gnarly
He's stoned out of his mind - not in withdrawal. Whether it's just methadone or a mixture of methadone and oxy, only he knows. You are right to watch his breathing and right to be very concerned. It's entirely possible he'll nod out and never wake up. If you can't rouse him enough that he can talk sense, call an ambulance and get him out of your house. You aren't a doctor, and he needs medical help. Can you at least call the prescribing doctor of the methadone? Also, many hospitals and insurance companies have nurse hotlines to call for advice. This isn't a law enforcement issue; it's a health issue, and maybe a life and death issue.
You are also "allowed" to be very angry. We spouses of active addicts are hostages to their disease - if we allow ourselves to be. For your sake, something's gotta give. Either he keeps using and/or kills himself, or you remove you and your child from the situation. There comes a point that being supportive turns into enabling, and it's a very fine line.
You are also "allowed" to be very angry. We spouses of active addicts are hostages to their disease - if we allow ourselves to be. For your sake, something's gotta give. Either he keeps using and/or kills himself, or you remove you and your child from the situation. There comes a point that being supportive turns into enabling, and it's a very fine line.
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if he is noding out he is taking to much he could probably get by on 30ml starting out
what ever he does dont let them keep moving you dose higher and higher they do that at a lot of the clinics and it makes getting off it long and drawn out literally months try to use this just long enough to get off the oxy then start weening off methadone withdrawals are the worst of the narcotics you want to minimize you exposure to it as much as possible
tomorrow ask them at the clinic if they can move him down to 30ml also bring up the side effects methadone can become deadly if you react to it keep posting to let us know what happens good luck and God bless......Gnarly