Startin Subutex

[freedom12]

what dosage of Subutex would someone need, when they do the transition from Heroin 1/1 half bags a day  just less than a quarter of a gram, the person is aware to remain clean of Opiates previously fro 24 hrs.. Thank u...  Also any helpful tips would be greatful thank u

[IBKleen]

Your friend has a history of taking something to get off of something else, all the more reason to be under a doctor's care.

I am sorry we cannot help you with the amounts and such but it is a violation of our guidelines. There are no doctors here.

To be honest, I have been here almost 3 years and I only remember 1 person taking Suboxone/Subutex to come off of Heroin. It is not widely prescribed for that here in the states.

[freedom12]

BTW  the docs over here in the u.k. r jst willing to throw it at you, and up the dose willy nilly, the same as Methadone, yes I know if used correctly they are life savers, but long term use, it seems, going by the comments ive read on here an many other forums, the worse the  monster cluck!!, I want to know if anyone has done this transition from the amount of "H" I stated.. Cheers

[LeaAnn807]

Could he/she at least talk with a doctor about it before they start?  There is really not a comfortable way to detox from heroin!  THEN they will have to detox from the sub, which is arguably worse.

It is a good idea to speak with a doc or medical professional!  Ok?  I want them to be clean too, but this could be a very bad idea.  

I was on sub once, in rehab, for a short time...under medical supervision.  I was at Talbot Recovery Campus in Atlanta for 13 weeks, so they watched me very closely.  

The discomfort can be helped by something like clonidine, but that has to be prescribed also.  I used it, and it helps SO much and is not habit forming!

[freedom12]

Thank u 4 ur comments, my Friend is extremely desperate to get clean, and has bn thru this transition many moons ago, and was on methadone b4 doin the transition, 45 mls I might add, under docs orders, I do know Subutex is extremely strong, and it has a bad name re detox because of its long half life, and from reading many, many comments on here, alot of people have said that they havn't needed the dosage what the Doc has prescribed, I am aware that I would never take comments as gospel, before advising anyone what to do, but my friend is determined to do this transition, and I thought I would ask, as many of the ppl on this forum has done this, quiet successfully. I have known manyppl in exactly the same position as my friend, ie, habit and ready to do transition, and the docs would recommend to start with 8mgs, then 10 the nxt day, then increase the nxt day if still feelin crap, but the first few days will be crap as the heroin is comin out of system, I jst dont want my friend to be on a high dose, which in turn will make it harder to come off...  Is there anyone out there who has done it on a lower dose, we are hoping that he can do it quiet quickly and comfortably, and is there anything he cud take to cushion the inevitable discomfort..   experiences welcome.. many thanks   Bless u all x

[LeaAnn807]

That info has to come from a doctor.  It's not a good idea to start subutex without medical supervision.

[tiggz1977]

ya please see a doctor. you want to get clean I can tell, but we don't have all the answers here we will support you getting clean and tell you were you can go for help but as for dosage you really need to speak to a doctor and or take the long hard steps into a rehab facility they will help you my friend as long as you want to stop.

God bless