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1472850 tn?1290125172

Sub Experience

Hey Guys,

So far, I have only tried to help folks in this community.  I now however need help with a dumb question.  Anyone that has detoxed from Sub, Please tell me how long my body will continue to hurt and I'll be Skeenchy (stretchy).  This is not my first Rodeo.  I've done w/d from Methadone, Heroin and other nasty things.  Sub just seems to be the gift that keeps giving.........I regret the day that I started it.

I am day 11 now with 0mg. after 1.5+ years from 16mg daily to 3mg. to 0.  I am daily drinking myself into a stupor to deal with the pain and maybe sleep four hours (Iknow...not good) and Momma is rightfully worried about it.  Question is, how much longer can I expect the pain and Skeenchies?  Maybe gone by this weekend?  Thanks.  Bless Ya'll.

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569676 tn?1315641158
Hey Wolf!

My apologies in the response delay, regrettably I havent been able to hang around here as often as I would like or should have, but I received Vicki's message. (Thanks as always Vicki!)

Im in Kuwait right now, on my way out the door to the airport to head back to the US tonight, so Ive got to try and make this short... But I will be sure to check in and post back when I get back home tomorrow.

Sub is a real bear to kick, and unfortunately you are finding out right now just how much this is to be true.  The tricky thing about it, which is most often misunderstood is that the degree of withdrawals experience is directly correlated to the severity of your previous active addiction (DOC, Frequency of use, and number of previous attempts to quit)

When we begin sub treatment it pretty much stops withdrawals in their tracks, and while it is true that it has its own set of withdrawals, there are studies in the works to show that the vast majority of what you are feeling now is a rebound withdrawal.

Theres some bad news and some good news here.  

The bad news is... you may be in for a few more rough weeks.  This is such a personal and individual experience that its hard to guage exactly how long.

I was on sub for 2.5 years at 16mgs.  When I jumped off, my final dose was 3mgs, and my withdrawal process peaked at 10 days, layed steady for another week, and then VERY slowly got easier over the course of another 2 weeks.  By the 4 week period I was able to sleep in 5-6 hour increments uninterrupted, and only had short bouts of that "Ants under the skin feeling"

About 1.5 months after I was feeling as good as new, so the good news is, it shouldnt get any worse, and most certainly will get better!!!  Today I have been off Suboxone for 163 days, and I am loving every minute of it!

The meds that your new doc prescribed will help quite a bit, just be sure to take them as directed.

As far as the alcohol.... indeed it is a bad idea.  Your brain is a storm of neuro chemicals all trying to balance themselves out, and adding a Central nervous system depressant into the mix certainly wont make things easier in the long run.

I've gotta jet (Literally)  You are doing amazingly well! Hang in there and keep relying on that awesome wife you have there for support. Shes your strongest weapon combined with yourself in your recovery arsenal!!!

I'll be back here later on!

HenryS
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495284 tn?1333894042
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Wolf, that alcohol isnt providing anything but alot more pain and agony........sara
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1401949 tn?1296043724
I have been following your post!! All I can say is good for you for fighting your demon like you are doing. There is a light at the end of the tunnel and it is shining bright!! God bless Jay for her standing strong for you and herself! Good luck to you both on this page in your lives. You both help so many!! God Bless!
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1472850 tn?1290125172
Thanks for your thoughts.  It's better every day now.  I tried the taper thing and was miserable and got back on.  That will not happen this time.....

I do have a good shrink for aftercare.
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1472850 tn?1290125172
Hey IB,

Thanks for your concern.  I took only what was was prescribed as prescribed.  I know that's a long time to sleep, but after weeks of no sleep and flipping around like a fish outta water it was a blessing....

The drinking is out of order, but provides temporary relief.  Today is Day 23.  I'm still not there but better everyday now.  Poor Jay having to put up with my crap.....
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401095 tn?1351391770
Ouch!
I only read the first post and felt the pain
Jumping off 3 mgs of sub can be a tough experience even tho the dose sounds minute
Many taper down to slivers//and then slivers every other day..then they let go

Tapering is tough for an addict tho///u r 11 days in//turning back to taper lower now would seem redundant
Everyone is different....I have not seen anyone who suffered much longer than a month
I know that doesnt sound good right now///and we r all different//I have also heard of folks who suffered 2 weeks and those who suffered barely any wd symptoms

I think you have done a very difficult thing to do and u r 11 days in//u should be proud
Keep moving forward///it is the only direction to go///and aftercare may help you now if u r open to it or not already doing some sort of aftercare

hang tight  (:
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82861 tn?1333453911
Just very tired and very detached.
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