TRAM HELP. WITHDRAWAL HELP

[chaddavis333]

I have a few post on here, so please forgive me that I keep writing, but I have no other outlet. I am begging all who read this to please give me a response. Let me tell you my story. 8 months ago I got injured at work. My doc gave me vicodin. I told him after 2 months and a lenghty hospital stay, that I felt like I was getting addicted to them. He switched me to tramadol 6 a day. This made me feel great and I thought the more the better. Once I found I could buy them online, it was even better. I ordered and ordered and before I knew it, I was taking 18-20 a day for the last 3 weeks before it all came crashing down. I told my wife everything and my pastor too. He thought I should go and get checked in at a Detox center. All that was last Sunday, Nov. 14th. On that day I took 13. They told me I could not detox, but just go home and do it there, becuase since it was not a narcotic, I would be uncomfortable but wouldn't die. Monday, the next day, I took 8 with a lot of fatigue and anxiety. Tuesday I did 6 with even more anxiety but I could not sleep. Today, I took 2 at 6:30 am and was anxious all day. I thought I would quit today, but by 3:30 on the same day I could not sit still and I took 2 more. I felt a little more relaxed and took a 8-10 minute nap. Now here I am crying, which has been non stop, begging someone for help. I have taken Lexapro for a while now, so I thought coming off this would not be bad. SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME!! I have 2 small children and besides my injury I am a normal 36 year old male. I am very much involved in my church. I think God because I did not die from taking so many. I did call my doc and he made me transfer all my stuff over to him from my detox visit, and has not yet called me back?? Will someone please tell me what to do here? When will I feel normal again. Should I just quit and suffer non stop for a few days??  What do I do. Please everyone Respond. I can't take this.

update  my doctor told me today that i am done. i must quit cold turkey. i can not have anymore. please tell me how to quit this without the anxiety!!
I also was curious that since I was going into this taking an antidepresant. will my withdrawals be as long and as bad? ..

[atthebeach]

chad,
dont start anymore threads. just stick to one thread and write on that one. that way everyone can see what has already been said.
debbie

[chaddavis333]

sorry. i am just scared and not sure what to do

[dominosarah]

How many pills do you have left(tramadol)?

Please just stick with one thread as it is way to confusing right now.  

[ladylisa109]

First thing I recommend you do is find a new doctor.  To prescribe you a medication that you eventually become dependent on and then to cut you off without any help is inexcusable in my book.  The second is to please check out Emily's journal.  I mentioned this before to you I think.  She is a member on here that recorded her journey to recovery from Tramadol in her journal on here.  It is was incredible help and encouragement to me in my own battle.  There is a wealth of information and a ton of others just like you stuggling to be free of this evil drug.  I went through a fast taper (4 days) and went CT from Tram. 101 days ago.  The first 5 days were pure hell....I wont lie.  The anxiety was through the roof at times but it did/does get better.  If you have a support system and it seems like you do it will help you get through this immensely.  I had the support of my fiance and my oldest daughter and I don't think I could of done it without them.  I also use to order them on line and when I decided to quit I gave my fiance my credit cards to help keep me accountable.  Like I said the first 5 days after quiting are the roughest but it does get better each day little by little after that.  By two week my main remaining symptoms were low energy and sleep was still a little rough (about 4hrs. a night).  By one month the only thing still remaining was low energy and some ramdom RLS.  Now over 3 months off of them I feel I am 100% back and feel like I am finally ME again.  You can really do this.  There are many of us on this web site that are living proof that Tramadol can be defeated.  Here is the link again the Emily's journal.  Please take a look and read back through the posts and post there also if you want.  There are several people there right now trying to beat this.  http://www.medhelp.org/user_journals/show/233589/Tramadol--Ultram-Recovery-Room-Part-38
I will keep you in my prayers.

Blessings, Lisa

[chaddavis333]

Thanks for the comments. Today I took a walk and almost did not make it back. I had a hard time breathing. I s that a syptom???  Plus I wanted to sleep as soon as I got back but coulnd't. It is 11:00 a.m. and 3:00 is 48 someone please tell me if this will end?

[avisg]

yes when I was first in wd i had breathing is issues when i would take walks but the walking i think imporve the overall wd I went threw .You have a few more bad days them about day 5 things really will start to turn around it wont all be at once but it will get better ..,. Hang in there you can do it

[chaddavis333]

Thank you all so very much . In 2 hours it will 24 hours that I have had 0. I have a question. I have been taking 10mg of Lexapro before I even started on tramadol. will my wd be as bad since i am already taking an antidepresesant?  I keep hearing 5 days. Nothing changes until then??? Thank you guys for the encourgement. When I get over this, I will become an advocatge to get rid of this stuff. My wife is mad at me because my little boy and girl are going to be in a wedding on Sat. It is a 45 min drive there and 45 back, plus the ceremony will last all day. What do I do? Her whole family is going to know something is wrong. This is making it worse for me. Any advc. please???

[chaddavis333]

I also wanted to ask if this would matter: I only had 4 the day before I quit. Will this make my wd faster?

[avisg]

I don't think it will make a difference .For the most part day 5 is right about the turning point .Next week discuss with your doctor perhaps changing your lexapro dose temporary just until you can get your serotonin levels back to normal .You dont want to do it any sooner because you were taking so much tramadol your levels were sky high .That is dangerous so give it a week from when you stopped all tram then discuss it with him.Do NOT do it on your own make sure u consult him .
I would have your wife tell them you  have the flu and did not feel it would be a good idea to expose everyone at the wedding to it .That is way to much for you right now .

[duluthguy]

I have no idea if the Lexapro will help or not, I hope it does- I'm truly sorry to hear that you are suffering so bad... I certainly would hope that your wife would understand if you just cannot make it to the wedding... You made some bad choices once you were addicted, but that was the addict making them choices, not the true you... The time has come to get clean, and tough as it is, our loved ones have to suffer with us.. I think that is the hardest part for me but its just the way it is... Hopefully they will forgive you, they will be so happy when you are back to normal... The goal is to live pill free, so come what may, it's time to get there... Stay strong, You are making big progress now...

[chaddavis333]

so what is day 3 and 4 like? i can't take 2 more days of this. please help me!!

[avisg]

for me days 2 and 3 were the worst and u can get threw it you HAVE to stay postive .Remember this is a very short part of a very long life you CAN do it !!!!

[duluthguy]

You will overwhelm yourself thinking of day 3 and day 4... For me on Day 3 I lost alot of worst unbearable symptoms... It might be different and longer for you, but that doesn't matter... Stay focused short term, get thru today, see what tomorrow brings... It will be over much sooner than you think, been there and done it twice. Keep fighting the good fight, my friend, just keep staying strong, post early and often on here! We are all feeling your pain, praying you will get better soon- Take care and god bless

[chaddavis333]

i love you guys thank you.

[chaddavis333]

update: The thing I dreaded most, the wedding ended up being blessing in disguise. I was bound and determined not to  miss my kids dressed up, so I went to the reherseal. By the end of the night a lot of the anxiety deep depression started to lift, but now at 11:30 I can't sleep. If there is such thing as restless arm syndrom I have it. Where my wrist are it feels like I cant quit them for wanting to feel like something is crawling and it goes down throught my legs. I hope it goes away soon. I took some Nyquil to go to sleep, and now I can't.

[gnarly_1]

HI .....Hang in there guy the rls can hit in the arms to....the highlands restful legs stuff will help you can pick it up at walmart or walgeens both are open 24 hr here in phoenix
it would be worth a trip to get some....give you something to do you cant sleep anyways
sleep is one of the last things to come back its best to rent some movies to keep you bizzy at night a lot of us where up all night....im glad tramhater and avisg got a hold of you
they both have experience with tramadol ...I know what I have read over time and its never pritty coming off the stuff....hang in there if nothing else try a bath as hot as you can stand it it might help with your arms good luck and God bless....btw prayer worked wonders when I went threw withdrawals I seen you believe in God from one of your post I will pray for  you also .......Gnarly  

[chaddavis333]

Thanks Gnarly. you are a true God send. The arms and leg thing past, and all in all I don't feel that bad. I awoke wide eyed at 3:30 not able to sleep. Thanks for the prayers. What a hell. I will never get like that again. Wd's are the worse thing I have gone through since I lost my son a few years ago. You guys have been such a help, and I think I finally turned the corner here, if God allows. I just cant sleep now, but I would take this over the other stuff any day. Wow! a week ago I was doing 20 pills!! I can't believe He let me live. Is the back pain part of it too? It seems I had a lot today. Thanks again for your prayers.

[Xsane]

Also
@GNARLY
I also had the RLS in my Arms and Body - very bad issue. The Hylands seemed to help me a little too? I also had the Blessing of Valium. Except I was coming off Methadone - but your symptoms sound very Similar.

Have you been throwing up - or GERD , anything like that??

[bfarley63]

FWIW, I am tapering off tramadol and I have the breathing issues too. It seems specific to that drug because I've never had it with any other opiate withdrawal. I even dream I'm suffocating. I think it is actually physical too and not psychological. I feel like I can't catch my breath a lot of time. I don't even have to exert myself. However, it might just be anxiety. Who knows?

[duluthguy]

Hey that is so so awesome!! I'm so happy u turned that corner!! I am at about 95% now, mind is clear and I feel great!!  God bless!!

[chaddavis333]

my corner seems tto have taken a u turn . i felt great this morning, but after my wife yelled at me, things started going backwards again. is this normal? also, it is not all the way through day 3, did you say that by 5 i should notice a big differnece? Remeber i was taking 20 a day for about a month and a half. then 13,Sunday, 8Monday, 6 Tuesday, and then 0 on weds.?

[duluthguy]

I can only say how it's been for me, and today is my up day so far!! A few little tremors but nothing really- a little bit weak, but i'm helping my mom move some stuff!! I can't believe how good I feel, I'm just want to save strength for them days ahead where I get tempted...

[throwindatowl]

dude wow. reading through what youve been going through I have to say, IM IMPRESSED! Stick to your guns man. Everything thats happening is normal. On the last couple days the wds seem to come in waves. You feel fine then bam, not fine. They dont last that long though. Im a day 6 of oxys and feel great. This morning I was sitting outside and bam, I felt weird. Clammy skin. It passed in about 5 mins. Your doing  great for mid day through day 3. Yes, you will notice a huge difference on day 5. Will you feel normal or perfect no. Will you feel alot better than you do today. Yes. Just keep it up and tell your wife not to yell at cha. HAHA. doubt that will happen.lol. Gotta havve a sense of humor during these times man. Im glad mine is comming back. I missed it.