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4822967 tn?1367656696

URGENT HELP NEEDED SUBOXONE

Please I hope for an urgent answer.  My daughter has a long term addiction to heroin.  She goes really well for a while and then when her ex starts hassling her (he uses and she left him due to this and domestic violence)  she gets stressed and anxious and then relapses.  She is on suboxone to help but has messed up a fewtimes in the last fortnight.  AS she goes to a clinic she gets random urines. As he has all takeaways, he is only tested once a month and always knows the same day!!! so he is "safe".  He is a really nasty piece of works and will find anything he can on her for custody - spite more than really wanting 100%.  The problem is that I have bailed her out a couple of times in an emergency, by giving her my own urine :(  I do this cause I know she is a brilliant mum and it would devestate her and the kids if came back dirty.  She never uses when they are with her, only when its thier turn with dad.  Anyway, the URGENT issue is this,  my wee has NO ssuboxone and I strongly suspect they are going to test for suboxone on the next test, which is tomorrow or next day. they dont usally but they also suspect her been using and may suspect she is using another persons wee to pass. I have heard that sometimes they will deliberately test for suboxone to make sure not been fiddled with.
I know you cant put it straight into the urine as I read that they test for its changed metabolised levels and that their should be barely any non metabolised in the urine.  I cant remember what the metabolised name is, think norbupe.....  regardless it can only be in urine that has gone through the liver.
NOW for the crunch.  On the couple of times she has used, she hasnt taken her bupe or says it wouldnt have worked or having the bupe to could make her sick. Therefore I do have a small amount here that I hold for her for emergency eg if misses clinic.  I have never taken any drugs and am on no medication, my health isnt perfect but its not bad either.  I want to take the bupe myself about 8 hours before the urine (so has time to start getting into wee)  I dont know how much is safe to take though and am a bit scared.  She is on 12mg so of course I cant take that.  If I take too small a bit though it may not even show up!!! and be negative.  Its like a balancing act. Obviously if I only take a tiny bit (thinking 2-4mg) the levels will be well below what they should be but am thinking at least thats better than showing none at all.  If she shows none at all they will think is not her urine, if it shows levels but way too low, they will think not taking it properly. Rather they think hasnt beent aking properly than think has used someone elses wee. HELPPPPPPPPPPP how much can I take at once.  I was thinking 2mg and tehn leave a few hours and if feeling ok take another 2 mg ?.  Will it effect driving though as we have to drive half hour to pathologist
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4597556 tn?1383305043
It sounds like mom is looking for some attention
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I hope your OK honey, please let us know as it has been over 6 hours since your 2nd dose. Not sure what time it is down under but do not go to sleep as you may not wake up.
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4113881 tn?1415850276
"the mom dosed herself with the subs. "

Wow...I would go over there and say something but I get the feeling this is one of those stories that's going to end with a lot of heartache. So sad.
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Oh God Debbie...

I just read through this thread and everyone gave such great advice; everyone seemed to see this situation as it truly is: Toxic and dysfunctional.
If only this mother would get some money together to consult an atty, she would find that there are many ways of dealing with the ex...  Very sad.
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1235186 tn?1656987798
the mom dosed herself with the subs.
she posted on the living with an addict forum.
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4113881 tn?1415850276
Straight up...with the risk of sounding redundant...your PREVENTING your daughter from getting clean. I mean....the majority of the advice above is from ex addicts who WERE your daughter (including myself) Your situation isn't unique....on the contrary, this a classic case. And without trying to sound judgmental...I get the feeling that no matter what anybody here tells you...your not gonna listen to the advice....Its too bad.  

I mean...do you hear...REALLY hear what your saying? Your going to take your daughters Sub so its in your pee to help her pass the test...do you hear how crazy that sounds? Im sorry...but the whole situation sounds very toxic to the children. I pray that you listen to those of us who have been standing where your at before and know that the end result of this situation does not have a happy end UNLESS somebody starts to act rationally.

The majority of addicts HAVE to hit there bottom before finally surrendering and making that decision to get clean. That bottom for many is jail....divorce.....losing children to CPS...etc. Its the reality of addiction.  

My post may sound judgmental or harsh but I dont mean it to. Trust me...if I didnt care I wouldnt have bothered to respond at all. I just pray you can step outside the situation for a minute and really see what it looks like.

My prayers are with you.
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