crack

[hishelper]

i need to help someone stop smoking crack he wants to be help but he says hes "in the middle of a binge right now" what do i do?

[hishelper]

thatnk you mizdemeanor and newmanagment hes still with his girlfriend hes supposed to be calling be back soon

[MizDemeanor]

I just want to interject something that I feel is important here. Please be careful about what you say/do to get between him and the crack. It makes a person think differently and react differently than they normally would. I admire you for trying to help him but this is a very tough recovery, and HE has to be ready, he cannot be pushed. I dont want to come off as a "pushy adult" but I do have realistic concerns as I have dealt with this in my past with my exhusband and I know what is ahead for him. I wish you all the luck and positive energy I can send your way.
Peace.

[newmanagment]

NO baby steps. he is not on a binge unless he is blowing off all responsibilty. if he is going to school, work , etc. then he is "maintaining" his high. he has to STOP and not use period... no bullsh*t this wont work till he throws it all away. the path he is on is long and dark, and he needs to get off it , before it kills him and all he loves. where is he now?

[hishelper]

wait what should i say when he just keeps saying that hes in the middle of a binge right now and you cant just stop cold turkey

the last time he said that to me i told him he has to try not smoking in class and then not smoke inbetween classes and then not before school you get it baby steps

[hishelper]

oh yeah its definitely a habit thanks now i at least have things i can start telling him ill try to get him on here and i will definitely come to you with questions throughout thanks again

[newmanagment]

K , thats all good, and i like the fact your opening up . so as long as you are sure YOU are strong enough, then he needs to decide he is strong enough. sounds like his use is way beyond recreational, he has a habit, specailly if he is using at school. no one say we want you to giveup, or think hes unsaveable, in fact just the opposite! it will take people like you to support him thru this, but it aint no game. its harder to not use than to score . i know hon  i wouldnt lie to ya. but first get him on here if he wont go to rehab. and a few things i can tell ya now
PEOPLE - he has to change all the people he hangs with that use
PLACES- he has to quit going to the places he scores. i would say smoke, but he cant give up school
THINGS- he has to change the things he does. no more parties, alcohol, etc.  
Its a long fight, but he is young, early in his addiction, and loved by you!!
best of luck, add me to your friends in case this thread gets buried , you can im me with ?s or for support at any time. prayers and much love...

[hishelper]

no i know i wont start smoking but i couldnt just leave him i couldnt give up on my brother and i cant give up on him i dont believe that hes not saveable i cant believe that i know im being very stuborn but i have to help or at least try

[hishelper]

so yeah he would smoke before and after school and inbetween class changes and take a couple hits during classes sometimes . . bad . . he hasnt smoked that i know of since about 4pm today his pipe is broken and hes broke hes with his girlfriend right now and i doubt he'll be able to smoke with her around ill tell him about this site and about the breathing excersises and try to convince him to find some form of counseling but i think thats going to be really hard because im one of the few people that know about this and he really wants to keep it that way

[newmanagment]

i just checked your page and your age...wow did i just write that? LOL just tryin to keep ya smilin... go to my page and read my journals.. i started smoking cocaine at 15 , how old is he? and i have to tell ya right now, he may not be saveable, and you may have to put him out of your life if he is not family. you still have your youth, and the last thing that i would want to see is you lose yourself with his addiction.

[newmanagment]

im not , im a 25 year addict about 22 of those smoking crack (cocaine) .. the shaking wont stop right now. how much has he smoked on this binge, is he still smoking right now. he needs to break that pipe, especially if he is shaking. have him try some breathing excersises. in thru the nose, hold for 5 count , out thru the mouth, hold 5 count , then backin thru nose.. repeating this will bring his heartrate down, and make the shaking slow. doing this without rehab or intervention is possible, but not without support willpower, and some kind of drug counseling, AA/NA meetings , this forum and severe life changes. at least i have to pray its possible, since i am fighting every day to stay clean....

[hishelper]

well hes been smoking for about a year and a half and i really want to try to do this without interventions and rehab i was just trying to find out if there is anyway thats possible? and how can i help him if he cant stop shaking? im pretty much new to people who do crack and i just really want to help him, were still in school so its not like i can watch him all day long

[road2recovery]

welcome---i dont' know anything about crack, but someone will help you that knows more
just hang on
and what a great person you are willing to help someone
r2r

[newmanagment]

first you cant help him if hes smoking right now, unless you trust him enough to let him come over, be searched , and let him come down and sleep. second, he must want to do this sober , not just when he is hi and feeling sh*ty about himself. third when he wakes up , have him read my journals and others on here. then if he is ready to take back control, get him to rehab. i could type all night on the things he will have to do, and not do, but  you can pm me if ya have more ?s.... much love