Using Darvacet to taper off a really brief relapse

[jkc65]

Hi,I used to take about 40 loratab 10mgs or 10mg percocets a day..I stopped 2 months ago. 3 days ago I got into a fight and really couldnt move. I broke down and have taken 10 percocet over 3 days. This morning i started with the gagging,and heart racing. I couldnt believe how fast it comes back. I took 2 or 4 a day...I have some Darvacet,was wondering if i should take a half in the morning and half at night then maybe another half the next morning and be done with it. Honestly Im not wanting to use,its not mental right now its the fear of physically being in pain and sick and getting more percs to make it stop then kick myself. I was in treatment once for much worse than this & the detoxed me with Darvacet. Can it work? Please anyone...I kicked the 40pills cold turkey,i was in my house for a month going through bad withdrawls..No 10 pills over 3 days has me back to square 1...How many Darvacet should i take and for how long,just to be comfortable. Im sure the withdrawls will be over in 2-3days. Any advice???

[jkc65]

Yes it was the fear of the withdrawal,thats why I was freaking out. Thats what I just went through. When I wanted off the 40+pills a day, I used Subutex,1 pill a day for 3 days and the rest on my own. So I thought I was going to have to endure if anything a few days of that and I was in a panic. Dr jeff thought I meant, the pain of my knucle was going to possibly make me go use. I meant the pain&anxiety of the withdrawal. Im new to my area,I need to get back into AA/NA meetings. I also think since im still adjusting to life off pills and my emotions,anxiety,still get irritable here and there is a big part in getting into that fight,never would have done that clean & sober. So theres still alot of work ahead.
Thanks again.

[sudie58]

well i am sorry you went through all that, but well done you! i think many of us has had a relapse of some sorts, i know i did, we just learn from them if we are lucky, i am glad it wasnt as bad as you thought, sometimes its the fear that gets us, thinking back to what we went through to get clean. i think i might have got as mad as you ! being a doggy person myself, lol, anyway, onwards and upwards, god bless.

[jkc65]

thanks for responding. I woke up today feeling whole lot better. My anxiety is still out of control since i stopped the pills couple months ago. and i really freaked when i felt those fee withdrawal symptoms come on. Im a little uncomfortable but i can deal with it. My back hurts a little, my legs were restless,and was gagging a little. I also posted for Dr Jeffery, he mis-understood a little of what i said. but I also understand where he was coming from. But yeah i was in a knock down drag out fight with my neighbor and im my profession and my age I was so mad after letting myself get to that point. But she tried to steal my puppy,dont ask,since shes moved into this gated community(how i dont know because shes a severe drug addict,guess in this economy they cant say no,i guess) But when it comes to my dogs im extremly protective. This puppy was given to me after my favorite chihuahua was accidentally killed a few months ago,that dog helped me in alot of ways and i lost my mind, but didnt use. Anyway since this neighbor hs moved in thers been about 10-15 puppies stolen,Im in Vegas now 2yrs&ive noticed the dogs that go missing are chihuahuas and pit bull puppies. Both which Ive owened and have. But like I said, I couldnt believe i let myself go to that place but she went nuts the cops couldnt do anything because i just got the puppy&shes still too young for shots so I had no "proof" she was mine. Thats when i lost it,I knew if i waited she would have sold it for whatever, drugs,i dont know. So she tried to intimidate me and a brawl ensued,dented,scratched cars,broken sideview mirrors, it was bad. But I paid the damages because I slammed her into these things and got my baby back. After the adrenaline was over,I was exhausted,it was my first time being out after being in bed for being sick which turned into pnuemonia,havent moved in 2 weeks and i get into a physical altercation. I couldnt move any part of my body the next day. And my hand is ripped open and i know 2 knuckles are broke. Im rambling on because Dr jeff thought I was making an excuse about my knuckles to go use and what i would bump into next for another excuse. It mad me laugh. Yes me getting those 10percs-total addict-wanted to use. But honestly I have the means to use theres no one telling me not to..I just honestly after 11yrs IM finally done. I slipped up,those events were too much for me to handle with my emotions still raw&out of control. And fighting in the street,thats insane. Enough rambling, just wanted to say thanks, and it wasnt anywhere close to what i thought id be feeling.

[vicki595]

Hi--  If you give it 24 more hours,I think you'll feel better. Also,Motrin 800mg 3x a day will work far better for your pain than Darvocet!  I'd toss those;they're off the market anyway.

Really,I think this is mental because 1/2 a Darvocet won't really do anything and you didn't take but 10 percs,you know?

Sudie gave you good advice:  lots of fluids,rest,several hot baths,and stay away from that neighbor. It sounds volotile!!

Your pain right now is so self limiting that taking any narcotics is going to hurt you in the long run...

Be good!

[sudie58]

i agree with you, i wouldnt take suboxone either. i went cold turkey myself,  it was hard but doable, and i see you have done this previously, as you say we are all different, you asked if the darvacet would work, if you have nothing else to take the edge off, well then it would do that,there are also things to help with the physical symptoms of withdrawal, make sure your fluid intake is good, thats important!, keep posting to let us see how your doing, best wishes.

[jkc65]

Ive been off the lortabs/percs for over 2 months....i only got 10percs after a fist fight with my neighbor...i havent felt pain in over 2yrs,my neck is still  sore, my knuckles are broken. So with the 10percs 10mgs, i took 2 friday, 2sat morning and 2 sat nite...then today the withdrawal woke me up, hot flashes,anxiety,gagging. I took 2 more then my last 1 almost 8hrs ago..I have had the Darvacet for a while..i have been to treatment that used it to detox opiate dependent patients no matter how severe..Im mentally ready not to use, but that physical pain is what scares the heck out of me and i will go get more pills. like i said before, only pills i have in my house is about 18 Darvacet...once i fall asleep,withdrawal wakes me up..if i stay awake it takes along time for me to go into withdrawal...i was saying if i wake up with the physical,maybe take 1/2 the darvacet then maybe again before bed and the last half maybe the next morning..I can deal with being uncomfortable,just the first 2 days can drive me to use..I do not have health insurence,I just moved to another state,wouldnt know where to go. I called about suboxone but its close to $300 just to see the doctor,and they want you in every 2 weeks the first few months at $300 a visit before they would give a months worth out..and suboxone is about 8 or 9$ a pill..very expensive for a short stupid relapse. And i also dont want to be on suboxone either..I was off the 400mgs a day for over 2 months,sleeping good,not waking up sick...I just hope this Darvacet thing can help the worst part. Ive relapsed before where ive taken a couple of pills just 1 day and had bad withdrawals,from maybe 4percs in a day..everyones bodys different,most people I know addicted to opiates dont get sick until they use 3 or more days in a row.

[sudie58]

hi and welcome, i dont think you will be right back to square one, it wouldnt be easy, but not as bad as the coming off the 40.
also the darvacet is still a narcotic, opoid with acetaminophen, perhaps you should just slowly reduce from the loratabs/percocets, there are things that can help you through it,
can you ask a dr for advice and a taper plan, i hope you keep posting, so we can try and help, i wish you well, god bless.