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freakin out here. red flagged
As I've read thru some posts on the topic. I couldn't help feel there wasn't a lotta cold honesty. If you want help. Be honest. Here I go.
First my question. How long before I'm hauled away? Yes I'm that scared.
Been fighting this roller coaster longer than I can remember. As I've shared. I went CT last weekend. Broke down Tues. Got a new script from my pain management Dr. This one consisted of half the normal fill plus methadone. Used a few norcos to keep wd's away. Its been great. I'm functioning and breaking this nasty demon. Haven't touched methadone. First pharmacy didn't have norco. Next pharmacy won't fill cuz I've been listed or flagged on some system here in Cali. Panic. I don't have ins. So went to ma and pop pharmacy that knows me and my Dr well. Use to be cheapest. Always went. Then found a CVS that was half the price. Another CVS was double. Anyhow. Get it filled but in panic mode now. Why? Well. Like most. Middle class employed mom in pain. Here's the deal. Dr shopping. Yes I have a past this last year. When that pharmacist read off all drs that wrote me a script this year I was shocked. 2 pages she had. First. Half the names were PA's in my spinal care center. High turn around. That I'm not worried about. What scares me are the others. Er visits. We've all been there. A few dentists. That was legit I needed antibiotics but wasn't gonna turn down the pain meds. Most terrifying. My former employer. Yup I work in the medical field. Small office. Paper charts. My Co worker called in a script. A few others signed the refill faxes for me. This stopped almost a year ago. Fear is. I left that job on bad terms. Unrelated. But the Dr blames me for almost loosing her practice. After I left due to verbal and emotional abuse. The other 2 employees left. She went to er for chest pain. Lost pts. Cuz she didn't know how to run her office. Now flash forward 10would months. I'm flagged in some Cali drug system. If they contact my former employer. As a prescribing Dr. She will know. I never personally picked up any of the scripts. Nor sign them. Maybe 1.
What's the process after being in this system? Just ***** cuz I'm finally getting the old me back. Wrestled all morning with my bf. Went out to lunch. Ran errands. Normally a weekend was me laying on the couch for 2you days while my bf did everything. Then dreading work come Monday. These lil yellow pills that once gave energy. Now sucked all life from me. Here I am finally feeling normal and my life may be taken away.
First my question. How long before I'm hauled away? Yes I'm that scared.
Been fighting this roller coaster longer than I can remember. As I've shared. I went CT last weekend. Broke down Tues. Got a new script from my pain management Dr. This one consisted of half the normal fill plus methadone. Used a few norcos to keep wd's away. Its been great. I'm functioning and breaking this nasty demon. Haven't touched methadone. First pharmacy didn't have norco. Next pharmacy won't fill cuz I've been listed or flagged on some system here in Cali. Panic. I don't have ins. So went to ma and pop pharmacy that knows me and my Dr well. Use to be cheapest. Always went. Then found a CVS that was half the price. Another CVS was double. Anyhow. Get it filled but in panic mode now. Why? Well. Like most. Middle class employed mom in pain. Here's the deal. Dr shopping. Yes I have a past this last year. When that pharmacist read off all drs that wrote me a script this year I was shocked. 2 pages she had. First. Half the names were PA's in my spinal care center. High turn around. That I'm not worried about. What scares me are the others. Er visits. We've all been there. A few dentists. That was legit I needed antibiotics but wasn't gonna turn down the pain meds. Most terrifying. My former employer. Yup I work in the medical field. Small office. Paper charts. My Co worker called in a script. A few others signed the refill faxes for me. This stopped almost a year ago. Fear is. I left that job on bad terms. Unrelated. But the Dr blames me for almost loosing her practice. After I left due to verbal and emotional abuse. The other 2 employees left. She went to er for chest pain. Lost pts. Cuz she didn't know how to run her office. Now flash forward 10would months. I'm flagged in some Cali drug system. If they contact my former employer. As a prescribing Dr. She will know. I never personally picked up any of the scripts. Nor sign them. Maybe 1.
What's the process after being in this system? Just ***** cuz I'm finally getting the old me back. Wrestled all morning with my bf. Went out to lunch. Ran errands. Normally a weekend was me laying on the couch for 2you days while my bf did everything. Then dreading work come Monday. These lil yellow pills that once gave energy. Now sucked all life from me. Here I am finally feeling normal and my life may be taken away.
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I have read thru this whole thread and here is my take on a couple things. You being red flagged at the pharmacy is the least of your worries right now. Your addiction to these pills is what concerns me. You are feeling good right now cuz you are still taking pills but there will come a time when you will have to stop. Once we stop the pills is when this addiction kicks in. Getting clean is the easy part, staying clean is the hard one. Have you given any thought to recovery care? This is a life changing process. Using is just a symptom of this. I know you are scared right now, take some deep breaths, there is nothing that we cant get thru being clean and honest. sara
the reason she was flagged, even though she didn't go through insurance or anything of that nature, is because her name is still in the system. cash paying patients or insurance having patients are all in the new PMP country wide.
is tapering is working for you, then keep doing it. some of us aren't able to do the tapering process because of will power or CT just ended up working for us. a lot of us have tried the tapering method but failed. i ended up going CT because i tried to do the tapering and i just ended up going right back to abusing the pills. there are a lot of strong members here on the forums, and i have no doubt that you're one of them. i've read through some of your posts from the past, and your spirits seem to be on the up and up - so that's always a good sign.
i do want to let you know that my posts weren't meant to scare or alert you. but i know what it's like to read through posts [mostly in the past year or so] and think to myself: "this person isn't fooling anyone but themselves".. and not only that, but there have been posts in the past where i have seen members ask questions, and people will answer them in a manner that will only be used to calm said member down, instead of having their minds go a mile or more a minute. you never know, it could be completely different in your state. but i do know that the DEA form you're referring to is called the PMP [prescription monitoring program] and like i said, it's in effect in well over 40 states now.
i didn't share this the other day, but maybe now would be the best time to do so. like i have said before, i have 400 something days under my belt now. i was walking around our condo on tuesday and tripped over our dog and caught my fall, but my ankle started to swell up and i could barely move it. instead of going to the ER, and because we're military - my husband took me up to an urgent care JUST to make sure it wasn't broken. since i flushed my pills over a year ago, i haven't taken the first pill... not even a tylenol or ibuprofen. when i went there, they did an x-ray and told me my ankle had a hairline fracture, which is much more painful than a break, or so they said. i didn't believe it - but my ankle did and still does hurt horribly. she told me she was going to write me a script for a muscle relaxant, pain medicine and anti-inflammatory, but i told her i was fine without any of that and would be on our way... i just wanted to know if it was a serious injury or not. they wrapped it up and put a "boot" on me as well, and told me to give them a few minutes, and they would be back with my discharge papers. about ten minutes later, we started to talk amongst ourselves and ask what was taking so long. that is when the doctor walked in with another member of their team and said they needed to speak with me.
they had papers in their hands, which i thought were my discharge papers. i was wrong. it was the PMP that they had pulled up on their system, and she started to tell me that she wasn't going to be writing me for anything because i was pill seeking. when those words came out of her mouth, i literally shouted out "how dare you" to her and my husband got all upset as well. my husband and i sat there and reminded her that when she had offered me medicine to take home with me, i refused and told her i would be just fine. she then went on to sit there with this other team member [she said she had to bring in another team member because it was protocol] and read out loud all of the pharmacies and doctors i had gone to seen over the past 24 months, or two years. i was beyond livid, and my husband helped me up out of the chair and we walked out.
with that being said, unfortunately, this is going to follow me around for some time now. the last prescription i received from a doctor [i never went to the streets and got the pills, it was ALWAYS through a doctor or ER visit] was over a year and a half ago. yet, it still haunts me.
so... maybe it will haunt you and all of us for some time. but when you ask about facing jail time, i am pretty sure that the worse that's going to happen to you is getting slapped on the wrist and/or maybe getting told that you need to seek treatment outside of your home on an internet forum. i can only go on what i have seen happen in the field that i have spent almost a decade in, the pharma field.
i do want to let you know that my posts weren't meant to scare or alert you. but i know what it's like to read through posts [mostly in the past year or so] and think to myself: "this person isn't fooling anyone but themselves".. and not only that, but there have been posts in the past where i have seen members ask questions, and people will answer them in a manner that will only be used to calm said member down, instead of having their minds go a mile or more a minute. you never know, it could be completely different in your state. but i do know that the DEA form you're referring to is called the PMP [prescription monitoring program] and like i said, it's in effect in well over 40 states now.
i didn't share this the other day, but maybe now would be the best time to do so. like i have said before, i have 400 something days under my belt now. i was walking around our condo on tuesday and tripped over our dog and caught my fall, but my ankle started to swell up and i could barely move it. instead of going to the ER, and because we're military - my husband took me up to an urgent care JUST to make sure it wasn't broken. since i flushed my pills over a year ago, i haven't taken the first pill... not even a tylenol or ibuprofen. when i went there, they did an x-ray and told me my ankle had a hairline fracture, which is much more painful than a break, or so they said. i didn't believe it - but my ankle did and still does hurt horribly. she told me she was going to write me a script for a muscle relaxant, pain medicine and anti-inflammatory, but i told her i was fine without any of that and would be on our way... i just wanted to know if it was a serious injury or not. they wrapped it up and put a "boot" on me as well, and told me to give them a few minutes, and they would be back with my discharge papers. about ten minutes later, we started to talk amongst ourselves and ask what was taking so long. that is when the doctor walked in with another member of their team and said they needed to speak with me.
they had papers in their hands, which i thought were my discharge papers. i was wrong. it was the PMP that they had pulled up on their system, and she started to tell me that she wasn't going to be writing me for anything because i was pill seeking. when those words came out of her mouth, i literally shouted out "how dare you" to her and my husband got all upset as well. my husband and i sat there and reminded her that when she had offered me medicine to take home with me, i refused and told her i would be just fine. she then went on to sit there with this other team member [she said she had to bring in another team member because it was protocol] and read out loud all of the pharmacies and doctors i had gone to seen over the past 24 months, or two years. i was beyond livid, and my husband helped me up out of the chair and we walked out.
with that being said, unfortunately, this is going to follow me around for some time now. the last prescription i received from a doctor [i never went to the streets and got the pills, it was ALWAYS through a doctor or ER visit] was over a year and a half ago. yet, it still haunts me.
so... maybe it will haunt you and all of us for some time. but when you ask about facing jail time, i am pretty sure that the worse that's going to happen to you is getting slapped on the wrist and/or maybe getting told that you need to seek treatment outside of your home on an internet forum. i can only go on what i have seen happen in the field that i have spent almost a decade in, the pharma field.
I had a similar problem. I was using over five doctors in 09. A doctor send me to a pain management clinic. And rhe doctor pulled my pharmacy log. Had conned a doctor to write me multiple scripts of 60s a week. Plus I made rounds to other doctors.
Well I got flagged. all my doctors were notified. I was humilated. Thpught I was going to jail. I know the peranoid feeling. I rhink its intensified from the opiatelol. I was accused of selling all my pills. I had thoights of the police knocking on my door demamding to see my pills. I ate them. Didnt sell them. I was never busted by thw law thank god
I was cut off from five doctors. Yet one still wrote me scripts. Can you say money? Lol
I assume I still am flagged. Because when I get a script they call the doctor and verify. The doctors can also pull rhe pharm. Chart Nd check.
When I went thru knee replaxement the doc still gave me drugs. I stayed in compliance. I had no problems durring that one time. I used one drug store. Period.
Its my opinion rhe pharms and doctors arw too busy. Unless you forged I dont think you have Nurhing to worry Bout. Learn from your mistakes.....hope this helped if ya have mor questions ask....bama
Well I got flagged. all my doctors were notified. I was humilated. Thpught I was going to jail. I know the peranoid feeling. I rhink its intensified from the opiatelol. I was accused of selling all my pills. I had thoights of the police knocking on my door demamding to see my pills. I ate them. Didnt sell them. I was never busted by thw law thank god
I was cut off from five doctors. Yet one still wrote me scripts. Can you say money? Lol
I assume I still am flagged. Because when I get a script they call the doctor and verify. The doctors can also pull rhe pharm. Chart Nd check.
When I went thru knee replaxement the doc still gave me drugs. I stayed in compliance. I had no problems durring that one time. I used one drug store. Period.
Its my opinion rhe pharms and doctors arw too busy. Unless you forged I dont think you have Nurhing to worry Bout. Learn from your mistakes.....hope this helped if ya have mor questions ask....bama
I am curious about something, How do you get red flagged if your not filing insurance reimbursement for those rx"s and you were going to different pharmacies? In any case, hope for the best prepare for the "not so best", either way this was a good wake up call right? You will feel loads better after a good night sleep. Day by day.....
Sorry this phone has a mind of its ownit is supposed to read" now that you are working on the new you" ......sorry
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