it's been about 42 hours. and i have hardly any vision. wtheck

[notordinary]

So I've been taking the clonidine 3x a day. The crawling in legs and arms was horrible the first night.
Then i found and old scrip i had from klonopin. 1mg. So i took one late afternoon yesterday. With only a few minutes sleep the night before. The klonopin knocked me out most of the night.
When i woke this morning i have to close one eye in order to see????
Can't focus on anything.  I'm wondering is this normal for wd's???

[notordinary]

Yes i will saw using effects more of our body than we first think.
I feel great at 4 days. Not par but good.  I can tell I'm getting more ambitions

[clean_in_ks]

4 DAYS....GOOD ON YA!  You're in the thick of it huh?....and you sound really good.

I came to this forum at 55 days clean back in Aug 2012.  I posted a question about vision too.  I got very little response so I wanted to share what I have learned thus far.

When I was at my highest opiate usage, I read ALL the time.  I had lineless bifocals that worked perfectly.  I was bedridden for a very long time so was unable to do much more than READ.  I had NO problem with my vision while using.
As soon as I went off opiates.....MAJOR vision issues.  I probably dealt with some blurriness for 60 days.  I have since gotten off all Rx's I was on and find that each and every Rx may/can affect your vision.  My personal decision was to wait until more healing time has passed before I go have my eyes checked again.  I know for a fact that some of the meds I was on can affect my vision, but no one seemed to be able to relate to me last summer when I was so scared about not being able to see correctly.
I even had peripheral changes.....sometimes even felt like someone was looking over my shoulder.  After I CT'd off opiates and somas, I also quit taking any type of antidepressant which I had taken one kind or another for 10 yrs.  I read a great deal about AD's too and their side effects.  I wanted to feel ALL my feelings and see what natural brain chemicals would eventually start producing again and how I would be.  I also chose to get off gabapentin and see how much of my nerve damage was permanent.

My personal goal was to wait 90 days MINIMUM off all those meds.  Just read too much about side effects and didn't want to get glasses for eyes that were still healiing.  I'm just about ready to go have my eyes checked and am seeing clearer now.  But I must say, the glasses I read gazillions of books with while using DO NOT work now!!  Probably too much info, but I'm one of those that would rather have someone share too much, than not enough.....or nothing at all.
Blessings to  you~

[LeaAnn807]

Oh, I am so glad to see this today!  You're really doing good.  Our eyesight was probably that bad when we were on drugs.  We just didn't care or we didn't notice.  LOL Not sure which fits me! : )

You sound like you're already starting, but I remember when I first realized that I was ok with being an addict if it made me appreciate what I had more and made me appreciate the small things in life.  Like.....waking up and not needing a pill to keep from being sick.  Other people don't know what that feels like.  They can't appreciate every small thing, because they haven't spent every day of the last 12 years looking for pills (or anything) to make them "ok!" We know.  And WE appreciate that now.  It's something small and probably insignificant to some, but not to me.  I love it!  And that hasn't failed to happen every day for the last 2 years and 9 months!  I have bad days.  Ummmm......some are even pretty bad, but I stop and remind myself that at least I don't have to go find pills in the middle of it!  You sound like you're starting to appreciate and make plans to stay clean and enjoy life.  THAT is what it takes!  So, also make plans for aftercare.  I know you probably don't want to.  Lord knows I didn't, and I thought I was the "exception to the rule" on aftercare, but no one is exempt.  It won't work any other way, so to end my mini-lecture today (LOL) just find something that fits you, and find it quick.  Best advice I know to give!

Yaay for 4 days!  I'm so proud of this!

[notordinary]

We all know. That. "Fear = the unknown" that's all. Over come the fear the rest falls into place.
Everything happens for a reason. We are all here because we all need each other to help us through these very difficult times in our lives.
Everyone here has huge hearts, i know i have read all the post on here.
That in its self tells all of our stories and how we have come together to overcome this addition.

[Pat1956100]

I don't want to waste anymore years either.  I have a lot of relationships to repair but everyone seems open to that.  
I also have resentments to work on but that's a whole other story lol.
Lots of healing still to do but we will get there.

Hugs
Pat

[YesLife4Me]

Im with you Not...want to enjoy the future, not focus on the past or what I am missing with opiates.  Have a beautiful 3 yr old grandson and luv re experiencing watching them grow.  Lifes too short to spend it the way we have.   Spent too long at the bottom...time to get up and make the best of it.  I feel great too ...so glad you are as well.  

[notordinary]

I remember when  was 27, my daughter was born.  It was 1987.
Wow such a long time ago.  Beautiful little girl the lite of my life.
Now she has a beautiful little girl of her own. And she is so precious, funny, smart. Just learning how to talk. It is truly amazing to watch it all over again brings back a lot of good memory's.
I want to see this beautiful child grow up and be a big part of her life. She loves her grandpa.
And I'm am determined to show her the world if it kills me.
Today i take the rest of my life back.  
Never stop fighting for what is to come. Or the unknown.
Everyday that passes is one day closer to freedom.  

I've waisted 10 -12 yrs of my life.  And by god I'm getting what years i have left back!!!
Time to get out of the funk and into the real world.  Keep trucking on. Man i feel good today. Hope it lasts.  
Have a wonderful blessed day everyone.  And i hope you find peace in yourself today.  

[Pat1956100]

I remember 28 because my son was born..

[notordinary]

28 is good too!  
Do you remember what 28 ways like?  
Cuz i don't really.  Pieces of it. But that's all.  

[Teresa1717]

hahaha Ok thats a lie, I really dont feel 28 but It sounded good!

[notordinary]

29 is old enough.  
At least your passed your teens.  Lol. :-).

[Teresa1717]

Well today I feel 28, so im still younger! :)

[Pat1956100]

Pfffftttttt, age is just a number and today my number is 29.

[Teresa1717]

hahahah Well I didnt mean you as an old bat, Pat knows shes the old bat. BUTTTT if the shoe fits, I say wear the hell outta it! :)

[notordinary]

Lmao.  
I'm not old bat.  Young bat yes.  
I look at myself as a unique middle aged man. I still have it. Just not right now.  Ha ha ha.

[notordinary]

Good morning pat.
I've never had to wear glasses. But last year thought i should have them checked. Dr said eyes were fine.   Gave me some glasses just to enhance my vision  with trans read on bottom of them.  
Every time i wear them i get a bad headache.  So i just stick to my readers.
It seems the older we get our arms are not long enough to read the small print.  

[Teresa1717]

Well old Bats are usually blind soooooo

[Pat1956100]

Hey, you are doing great.  Congrats on Day 4.  You should be over the hump and start to feel better each day.
I was just reading my old posts and I was sooo  scared when I first came here.  I was questioning everything to find out if it was normal and begging for answers.  I still remember that fear so well.

I need stronger glasses too.  Did we mess up our eyes as well or just put if off too long?  I am way past due for an eye exam.

[notordinary]

Good morning. And thank you. Days are getting easier.
That is good to know. Thought maybe my mind was messing with me again.  
As you know, i second guess everything.  Because i cannot trust my mind yet.
One day at a time. Right.
I really don't feel that bad. Not like the other night when i thought i was gonna die. But all in all i only had that one bad night. So i guess I'm lucky in that aspect.  Not much energy though. Can't run a Marathon now.
Hope is a great motivator. My hope is to be at least half the man i was before all of this.
I believe everything happens for a reason. Not yet clear of the why. But it will soon come together.
I say this a lot.  

The paradox of life is that we only live it going forward and understand it, looking back, if at.

[Teresa1717]

Im so glad to hear your vision is better. I wanted to add that Since detoxing, I have noticed my glasses arent strong enough now. Now, Im not sure if that is connected at all but I have definitely noticed it and wanted to pass that along to you.

Congrats on 3 days clean, You are almost over the hump! :)

[notordinary]

Ok that's what I'll do.
Thank you for all the insight.
It is 5:30am and I'm wide awake. Stomach cramps woke me.
I guess anything that a person don't expect can just happen. Going through wd's. That's hasn't happen before.
I can tell my eye sight is a little better also.  It's funny i haven't seen anybody talk about there eye sight.
I've been a driver (owner operator) most of my life so I'm sure all the years has taken a toll on my eyes. But i can tell a difference now.
The things you never think about when high. Kinda funny as it all statrts coming back.  
Thank you again.  You guys are the best.  And i couldn't have done this without all of you.  You are one of a kind.  Blessed people is all i can say.
:-). Today is a new day and clean for 3 days today will be 4.  
I cannot believe it. I'm on my way to be free again.  

[LeaAnn807]

You're welcome!  Just hang on.  It should only get easier from here for you.  When you get anxious like that, stop and take very deep breaths.  Anxiety makes the heart beat faster and BP go up.  When you breathe deep like that, it reduces both and makes you feel better almost immediately.  Works for trying to get to sleep too!  

Yes, about the clonidine, stay on what you're doing today and tomorrow.  Then reduce to like one at night.  That should do it! :)

[YesLife4Me]

The worst of it should be pretty much behind you now.   Each hour and day that passes from here on out just gets better.   I promise.  It's funny how we forget how awful we felt in wd until we go through it again.   Kind of like labor pains.  You are giving birth to a new you!  

[notordinary]

Ok thank you.
So just 2x a day for the clonidine. For 3-4 days then taper  
Thank you for the info.  This is all new to me.  It was years ago i did this when after my first few surgeries. But i cannot remember any of that. My memory is gone. From all the years taking these pills.
The anxious feelings come and go. I wish that would stop.