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Down comes the Confederate Flag.....in SC

The South Carolina House has approved a bill to remove the Confederate flag from the statehouse grounds, and the flag will be taken down Friday.

The vote early this morning came after more than 13 hours of debate.

The House approved the Senate bill by more than a two-thirds margin. Republican Gov. Nikki Haley will sign the bill at 4 p.m. today and the flag will come down at 10 a.m. Friday, the governor's office confirmed today.

“Today, as the Senate did before them, the House of Representatives has served the State of South Carolina and her people with great dignity,” Haley said in a statement after the House vote. “I'm grateful for their service and their compassion. It is a new day in South Carolina, a day we can all be proud of, a day that truly brings us all together as we continue to heal, as one people and one state.”

Efforts to have the flag removed intensified amid a June 17 shooting at Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal church in Charleston in which nine people died.

Republican Rep. Jenny Horne scolded fellow members of her party for stalling the debate with dozens of amendments, recalling the Rev. Clementa Pinckney, the pastor of Emanuel AME and a former house member who died in the shooting.

"For the widow of Sen. Pinckney and his two young daughters, [keeping the flag] would be adding insult to injury and I will not be a part of it," she screamed into a microphone.

The flag has been flying at the statehouse since the early 1960s, serving, for many, as a reminder of a racist past. Others have argued that the flag reflects Southern pride.

The vote marks a stunning reversal in a state that was the first to leave the Union in 1860 and raised the flag again at its statehouse more than 50 years ago to protest the civil rights movement.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/south-carolina-house-approves-bill-removing-confederate-flag/story?id=32319323
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973741 tn?1342342773
I say that this is a he said she said story.

that I've had someone give me the finger and yell at me on the road and if I matched that road rage with my own over reaction, it would be my own fault for an accident I caused.  I had two men driving a huge semis harass me on the highway.  They were boxing me in and had their penises out and were yelling things out their open windows at me. It scared me AND ticked me off.   I took out my cell phone and called 911.  About 5 minutes later, these yahoos got pulled over, no joke.  

The wife should have pulled out her cell phone and called the cops while he just drove without looking at them and keeping his eyes on the road.  He'd be alive had he done that.

No, I don't think it is okay for anyone to harass anyone.  But if you asked me what I got out of that story, it was confirmation that you keep your eyes on the road and don't allow something like that to cause you to react and have an accident.  
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1747881 tn?1546175878
So your saying you think the Initiating harassment was ok or some how justified ?
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973741 tn?1342342773
The biggest lesson I really see here from the above account is to not allow yourself to be distracted from driving. His yelling back and then losing control of his car was a tragic error on the driver's part.  
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1747881 tn?1546175878
JACKSON, Miss. (AP) — A black Mississippi man who often dressed in Confederate regalia to support the state flag has died in a one-car accident.

Anthony Hervey, 49, was killed Sunday when the 2005 Ford Explorer he was driving left the roadway and overturned on Mississippi Highway 6 in Lafayette County, the Highway Patrol said

The vehicle's owner and passenger in the car, Arlene Barnum, told The Associated Press on Monday that Hervey swerved and crashed after another vehicle carrying four or five young black men pulled up alongside them, yelling and looking angry. Barnum, of Stuart, Oklahoma, said Hervey yelled something back at the other vehicle before losing control and crashing.

"It spun like crazy and we flipped, flipped, flipped. It was awful," she said.

She said she gave that account to a Mississippi state trooper when she was taken to a hospital after the accident.

Mississippi Highway Patrol spokesman Johnny Poulos said accident reconstruction experts were on the scene Monday to conduct an investigation. He would not say if officials are investigating Barnum's account.

Barnum said she and Hervey were returning home Sunday from Birmingham, Alabama, where they attended a Saturday rally to save the Linn Park Confederate Monument. City leaders there recently voted to remove the memorial from the park.

Barnum said they were in her SUV, which was not displaying any Confederate flags or stickers.

She said she had no idea whether they had been followed from Birmingham.

Hervey, of Oxford, has drawn attention over the years for opposing efforts to change the flag. He said he dressed in Rebel soldier garb to honor blacks who served with the Confederacy during the Civil War. He was often seen wearing the Confederate uniform and waving a Rebel flag on the Oxford square.

In an interview with the AP in 2001 after a new state flag design was defeated, Hervey said Mississippians' support of the flag with a Confederate battle emblem in the corner is akin to "standing up for home."

"This is not racism. This is my heritage," Hervey said.

http://news.yahoo.com/black-mississippi-flag-supporter-dies-traffic-accident-130939918.html
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Thanks Eric.
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1747881 tn?1546175878
"So, now that the issue of the “that flag,” as South Carolina state Senator Jenny Horne called it amid tears of rage, is almost settled, let’s let the statues erected to the soldiers of the South and the other relics of that old history remain. Let’s let those gray sculptures remind us that all wars are horrible. Let’s remember that almost all wars are launched by ambitions, miscalculations, and grand illusions cherished by a few at the expense of the many. Perhaps the Confederate monuments will remind us we should be wiser about what wars we fight in the future......"

Apparently the NAACP does not agree with Mrs. Horne on that matter.

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Current-Events---/And-it-begins/show/2677061
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