I actually have to say that I'm with Mikesimon on this one. I have another anecdotal story---- of my dear friends husband who brags that he's met his retirement age (um, he's in his 40's) but is still working and in just SIX years will have earned an extra HALF MILLION in his pension fund.
Glad we fund such a wonderful retirement for these folks with our tax money.
I will say that pensions have helped cripple some cities and that is something I am not happy with, but for active duty law enforcement and fire they do a good job. Maybe some cities see things different but the city where I live and the people I know I will give those unions a pat on the back.
I know of cities that are financially crippled due to the pensions of retired police and fire fighters and those unions WILL NOT GIVE ONE INCH.
Of course, it's just anecdotal.
From friends that are in law enforcement and work for local fire companies. They have worked to hire more people so these people are not over worked/over stressed. Care about safety and try to get the best equipment for them and stand up for them when injustice is done.
"Some unions are good, police, fire ect (sic) are good."
And just how did you conclude that?
Here is the issue with some unions and union people like Hoffa. The large unions are in it for themselves. Hoffa makes millions off of the union and his dealings. He should be figting for his "workers" not the Democract party. he has no business telling his people how to vote.
Most unions had a time and place, but today most don't have a place. They are doing more harm then good.
Some unions are good, police, fire ect are good.