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to Teak and some other knowledgable people
Hi teak,
My case is indeed very similar to many others and especialyl the notorious "possible??" whom you might be remembering.
I met an asian girl (high risk). Didn't deep kiss or anything, just a lip-lip touch with drink transfer (beer, 5%) which
I spit at that instant only and when I looked at the spit there wasn't any visible blood.No hard spitting either, the drink probably just came out because of disgust. It still haunts me probably because of my guilt or there is actually some risk I don't know. There wasn't any other contact besides this.
It's been 11 days since then and I haven't had any symptoms as such except from day 3 to day 6 I had a bit of fever.
Do I have anything to worry about? I have seen at quite a few places that you, dr HHH have mentioned that kissing even with blood is no risk, virus can not survive in this drink and without blood the risk is zero but I still needed some reassuarance from experts like you.
Could you please tell me if my logic is correct and I indeed have no risk based on this exposure and I should move on?
My case is indeed very similar to many others and especialyl the notorious "possible??" whom you might be remembering.
I met an asian girl (high risk). Didn't deep kiss or anything, just a lip-lip touch with drink transfer (beer, 5%) which
I spit at that instant only and when I looked at the spit there wasn't any visible blood.No hard spitting either, the drink probably just came out because of disgust. It still haunts me probably because of my guilt or there is actually some risk I don't know. There wasn't any other contact besides this.
It's been 11 days since then and I haven't had any symptoms as such except from day 3 to day 6 I had a bit of fever.
Do I have anything to worry about? I have seen at quite a few places that you, dr HHH have mentioned that kissing even with blood is no risk, virus can not survive in this drink and without blood the risk is zero but I still needed some reassuarance from experts like you.
Could you please tell me if my logic is correct and I indeed have no risk based on this exposure and I should move on?
Actually, yes you are. ALL of those things carry no risk, just as your incident carried NO risk. Your fears are completely irrational and unfounded.
I understand the anxiety and fear, but the problem is...you can't shake it...which is why you may want to consider some professional help. There is no shame in that...otherwise, the anxiety will continue to consume you...you will start "developing" symptoms...and come up with other scenarios in your mind.
You were NEVER EVER EVER at risk...not with the kissing, or the drink exchange.....nothing.
I hope you can move on. Drop by the anxiety forum..there are a lot of very helpful people there that can help you address your anxiety. There is nothing more the good people on THIS forum can tell you or do for you.
Best of luck.
I understand the anxiety and fear, but the problem is...you can't shake it...which is why you may want to consider some professional help. There is no shame in that...otherwise, the anxiety will continue to consume you...you will start "developing" symptoms...and come up with other scenarios in your mind.
You were NEVER EVER EVER at risk...not with the kissing, or the drink exchange.....nothing.
I hope you can move on. Drop by the anxiety forum..there are a lot of very helpful people there that can help you address your anxiety. There is nothing more the good people on THIS forum can tell you or do for you.
Best of luck.
i am not 'fatt' i am fattu11. ;)
and yes, i do agree that it is anxiety to a great extent but come on, i am not in the same league as shower stall / dirty needles and all...kiss, mouth to mouth drink had got me scared a bit. :)
and yes, i do agree that it is anxiety to a great extent but come on, i am not in the same league as shower stall / dirty needles and all...kiss, mouth to mouth drink had got me scared a bit. :)
You're starting to make me blush here, buddy!
I just have a real talent for being LOOOOONG WINDED! :0)
I just have a real talent for being LOOOOONG WINDED! :0)
No, you are definitely not...and that is because people are VERY uneducated about HIV and how it is transmitted. Some of the questions just astound me (the shower stall/food/dirty needle at a clinic scenario).
I have so much compassion for anxiety-ridden people....but there just comes a time where if 100 people are telling you...."no risk"...plus a lot of these same people have MULTIPLE NEG results to back that up....then it's time for some anxiety treatment. HIV Anxiety is a very real problem for a lot of people...and there is no shame in seeking professional help when one is unable to move past these "exposures" (or lack thereof).
I have so much compassion for anxiety-ridden people....but there just comes a time where if 100 people are telling you...."no risk"...plus a lot of these same people have MULTIPLE NEG results to back that up....then it's time for some anxiety treatment. HIV Anxiety is a very real problem for a lot of people...and there is no shame in seeking professional help when one is unable to move past these "exposures" (or lack thereof).
yes, i would. I don't want to undermine anyone's risk but then I don't think I am the first one to get freaked out from such kind of an exposure.
haha, i do agree with all of them. the last post wasn't a question again. I just said why I worried so much, doesn't mean that I am worrying even right now.
Dude, you've had no less than 5 people tell you you didn't have a risk. If HIV was that easily transmittable 90% of the population would have it.
You came here because most of the people know more about HIV than you, yet you're not taking our advice. There's no maybe about it. You ARE over-reacting. Let it or get a therapist, we can do nothing more for you.
You came here because most of the people know more about HIV than you, yet you're not taking our advice. There's no maybe about it. You ARE over-reacting. Let it or get a therapist, we can do nothing more for you.
I won't be so freaked out had it been just a lip to lip kiss. And I also said that maybe I am over-reacting. My only concern was mouth to mouth drink transfer. I know that most of the people here know a lot more about HIV than I do which is why I came and asked here.
Get a therapist if you can't let this go. You didn't have a risk. Do you get this freaked out when you get in your car or step outside your door to get your mail?
hey, thanks a lot for the info. As I said, I am probably having a lot of guilt and anxiety.
Actually my worries increased a bit more because I lost about 1.2 kgs in 2 weeks.
But then, since most of you sound very confident I would guess that weight loss can be attributed to anxiety.
Actually my worries increased a bit more because I lost about 1.2 kgs in 2 weeks.
But then, since most of you sound very confident I would guess that weight loss can be attributed to anxiety.
That's why you stop searching. The good docs here on the expert forum do this for a living...they know the insides and outs of HIV...and no way is kissing a risk...not at all...not even a "low" risk which you keep saying. HIV is a very weak virus and actually very hard to transmit....
STOP searching the web...you'll be able to find anything you want to fuel your anxiety.
STOP searching the web...you'll be able to find anything you want to fuel your anxiety.
hmm, yeah i am. :)
i read a research paper which says that alcohol faciliates transmission of hiv through mouth. It also said that in alcohol > 4% hiv stains were killed immediately and then there was a site which said that it's a myth that alcohol kills HIV and the US govt doesn't say kissing is a risk because of some propaganda.
http://www.radioliberty.com/dec1.htm
For people like me who aren't well aware of all the issues and complexities it's hard to filter out wheat from chaffe.
i read a research paper which says that alcohol faciliates transmission of hiv through mouth. It also said that in alcohol > 4% hiv stains were killed immediately and then there was a site which said that it's a myth that alcohol kills HIV and the US govt doesn't say kissing is a risk because of some propaganda.
http://www.radioliberty.com/dec1.htm
For people like me who aren't well aware of all the issues and complexities it's hard to filter out wheat from chaffe.
hmm, thanks! and yeah, i am moving on. for the first 4-5 days i spent the entire time of my day including office hourse surfing on the net on various sites trying to find a similar situation and in the last 3-4 days I have more or less realised that my exposure was indeed close to zero but then i thought before i officially conclude that let me just ask some people. :)
Doesn't matter. ANY aspect of what you describe carried NO risk. NOTHING.
Your lips could have been on FIRE, and the answers will not change.
I hope you can move on.
Your lips could have been on FIRE, and the answers will not change.
I hope you can move on.
I re-read my post and i get that people might think that i am worried about sharing a glass, it's not that. she drank a bit from my bottle and transferred to my mouth which i spit immediately. the lip-lip contact was hardly for 2 seconds you can say.
thanks a lot. i was a bit worried only because of the drink transfer from mouth to mouth. i spit it out immediately but who knows if something was left inside.
You didn't have an "exposure" whatsoever. You need to educate yourself about how HIV is transmitted. It isn't transmitted via kissing, casual contact, such as sharing drinks, eating with the same utensils, shaking hands (even WITH a dastardly cut/chapped skin/blister, etc etc).
If you cannot move past this on your own....please seek some preofessional help....as it's obvious the anxiety is getting the best of you.
If you cannot move past this on your own....please seek some preofessional help....as it's obvious the anxiety is getting the best of you.
hey,
thanks a lot. i don't know why can't i put this behind and go ahead.
i hope most of the people here agree with you that my exposure was indeed a zero risk one.
thanks a lot. i don't know why can't i put this behind and go ahead.
i hope most of the people here agree with you that my exposure was indeed a zero risk one.
calm down...it's not even 7 a.m. here.
no risk...none...no ifs, and, or buts about it.
hiv is transmitted through unprotected vaginal/anal intercourse...sharing iv drug works...mother to child.
move on...you do not have a hiv concern :)
no risk...none...no ifs, and, or buts about it.
hiv is transmitted through unprotected vaginal/anal intercourse...sharing iv drug works...mother to child.
move on...you do not have a hiv concern :)
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