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ARS after 6 days?

Hey all.  I feel like there's a chance that I might have made a huge mistake and given my gf HIV.  Here it is in a nutshell.  My last exposure was a little under 10 weeks ago.  I had protected oral AND vaginal sex with a sex worker.  Stupidly, I didn't ask her HIV status.  Anyway, a couple weeks ago, I took an 8 week Oraquick test.  Results were negative.  Before that, I took a ELISA blood test 6 weeks post expsure and that was negative and a PCR DNA test / ELISA 2 weeks after the exposure and that came back negative too.  Per the doctor's advice, after the 8 week test I put my worries to rest.  However, 6 days ago, I had unprotected sex with a girl that I'm dating.  Last night, she came down with a fever and sore throat.  So now I'm worried that she's experiencing ARS symptoms.  Please advise?  Can ARS show up that soon?
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219662 tn?1223858560
If your gf has HIV she did not get it from you.  You don't have it, you can't give her what you don't have.
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I sure hope not, joey, thanks.  I'm just worried that I shouldve waited 3 months to get tested before having unprotected sex with my gf.  Maybe it's guilt/anxiety.  I don't know...I'm pretty worried.
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219662 tn?1223858560
Guilt and anxiety, you nailed it, friend.
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One last question.  Is it possible for ARS symptoms to develop within a week?  I've read that it takes usually 2 to 3 weeks.  Is 6 days too early?
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219662 tn?1223858560
yes, it's too early
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Jay i think the 8 week window is not conclusive the 8 week window gives you an 80 percent probability that you dont have HIV. I think you should re-test 4 weeks after. I think its always a good idea to re-test even after it is conclusive. Why because it shows you are concerned and that equals safe sex.
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If you would take it at 3 months like the test say. You wouldn't have to be questioning the percentages.
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Are ARS symptoms persistent or do they come on and off?  My GF's fever subsided for a few days but today it's come back.
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the doctor on the other site has written a few times for other posts that 6 weeks is a 95% accurate result, not 80.
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173325 tn?1213936521
Generally it's persistent.  You didn't give her HIV because you don't have it.  Look in the Dr's forums for information on testing time accuracy.  
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sorry I meant 8 weeks is 95% accurate....so the doc says
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Doesn't matter what they wrote. 3 months is conclusive.
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Doesnt matter what they wrote?? arent they doctors??? how can you say that?? I mean, you're at the same web site saying that docs are wrong about their recommendations...

have you ever saw someone testing poz @ 12 weeks after having a neg @ 8 weeks??
For sure you havent.

So, why always discouraging what doctors say??

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The Oraquick test is a point of care test which is performed on oral secretions.  It is as accurate as a blood test for HIV diagnosis.  EWH

Well juvimumu, do you see anything wrong with that above answer?
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I mean .. i understand from your answers that you are saying people who found information in the doctors forum regarding accuracy for testing @ 8 weeks (~100% accordingly HHH and EWH) that they shouldnt listen to that kind advice and that 3 months is concusive...
sorry if Im misunderstanding you.. but thats what it feels like..

you didnt answer my question about knowing about someone testing poz @ 12 when neg @ 8 w.

Regards
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Yes I have, but that doesn't have anything to do with you now does it? What are the reasons that one may take longer than three months to get a conclusive test result?

juvimumu if someone told you that your test is 85% accurate at 6 weeks are you here to tell me that you would settle for that answer? Or do you want a conclusive test result?




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Im taking about the million 8weeks ~100% (98%-99%) answers in the doctor's forum. Not 85% .. I wouldnt put myself to rest with only 85%.

Sorry to bug you, but i really didnt get it from your last post...
Have you seen someone testing poz @ 12w after a neg @ 8w?? Normal regular people (not IV users, or chimotheraphy, or whatever...) Have you?? how many?? a lot??

Regards
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I didn't think you would. juvimunu, since you hijacked this thread what is your interest? You asked me if I've ever seen it I answered you. No move on. We're done here with your question answer session.
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was there any reason the person you know tested so late? I mean was he a drug user or was there some other reason?
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So.. accordingly to you, docs give wrong advices ... they say ~100% at 8 weeks but you have seen a lot of people testing poz after 8 weeks.. why dont you get into a dicussion with the doctors?? (im not trying to arguee, but you have to understand that information you give is different that the docs give, and thats something to worry about)

besides all the dual and distortioned info that one could get from different web pages, its very hard when in the SAME page you get that dual information...
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also did this person you know have ARS? If so, how many weeks did that take?Thanks
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I have had friends that have had ARS but for myself I didn't have ARS. That is why you will always be told to forget about symptoms. HIV has no specific symptoms and not all people will have ARS.
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461503 tn?1212066010
Poor jay now he is more confused than before posting, so do I, please jay, ask one of the dr. to ***** your specific risk, and then you will have the answer yo needed.

My opinion is that if you had protected oral and vaginal sex and the condom didnt broke, your exposure was indeed protected so by the Drs. advice you test wasnt even warranted, since you have tested several times the last one 8 week I`ll repost a Dr. Answer

but here's one more fact that might be helpful- at eight weeks over 98% of tests that are going to be positive will be, thus unless you are at extraordinarily high risk, my tendency is to agree with the Spanish MD and tell you that you have nothing to worry about and do not need further testing (NOTE you where at a very very small risk)

Another Drs Post.

You had a single exposure to a commercial sex worker (CSW).  Your chances of having gotten HIV from this exposure are extraordinarily low.  Here's why:

1,  Chances are, your partner did not have HIV.  Most CSWs do not.
2.  Your chance of getting HIV, if she was infected is less than one in 1000 per exposure.
3.  You have had an HIV test at 5 weeks.  After 5 weeks between 85 and 90% of tests that are going to become positive will have.

When you put all of these facts together, your chances of being infected from the exposure you describe is less than one 100th of 1%.  If you get retested in the future, you will be a little bit, but not much more sure that you are not infected.  If I were you I would take the results I have, forget about your risk of having gotten infected and move on with your life.  I would not get further testing.  EWH

I hope this help you Jay, anyway if you are not comfort with less than 100th of 1%, like 0,01% (99,99% sure) take the 12 week test and get 100% sure you are negative.

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He needs to take the 3 month test anyway because there are no test that will give you a conclusive negative test before 3 months.
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