oil based lubricant

[tdino94]

Dear community,

I am posting a question here hoping to get a reassuring answer.
I had sex with a csw in the netherlands.

However before intercourse she had applied massage oil on my chest and pubic area and did a hand massage of my penis so I could get proper erection.

She then the put a condom on my penis and engaged in a few minutes of vaginal sex.

Upon withdrawing I did not notice a visible condom failure but was surprised about the little quantity of my ejaculate.
I did not have time to inspect the condom more thoroughly because the lights in the room were dim and she removed the condom so quickly in a napkin.

Now, it's been a few days after the episode and I just remembered that not wiping the massage oil present on my penis might have been a very very silly idea.

I called two local hotlines here and I got two different answers from them.
The first said that I should not worry and the second said that HIV/STD testing is recommended in 6 weeks.

I am confused who I should believe.

Please help :(

Dino

[tdino94]

I've been looking at the expert forum past answers and found the following
post (yes I know this is over analysing the situation)

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/HIV---Prevention/Condom--Massage-Oil--HIV-risk/show/1507250

It is an old post but I guess the advice still applies.

Dr Hook said:

"oils and other petroleum product do weaken condoms.  When they do however, they increase the possibility that the condoms will break, not that they will otherwise leak.  Thus if your condom appeared intact it almost certainly was, making the activities you describe safe sex"

I'll stick with Dr Hook's advice since I am almost sure seeing my ejaculate inside the condom when withdrawing from her.

[the_morning_star]

". I have always used protection ( latex condoms ), vaginal & oral sex only, with lubricants. Condoms have remained intact, always checked them after."

I am sure doctor hook read this line when he replied it.

[georgeboi1995]

Condom failures are spectacular, you (and definitely she) would've noticed had it of broken.

[shaunw84]

Read it.  Say's nothing about oil lube.  Just says condom was used.

[tdino94]

Thank you for the answers and reassurance.
I will put my mind to peace unless I develop any std specific symptoms in which case I will go consult a physician.

[Vance2335]

The lube would make the condom break easier, but yours did not. So you had no risk.

[the_morning_star]

I have to agree with vance... there is not risk.

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/Concerened-about-HIV--To-Dr-HHH/show/1539226

please read this post. This persons situation is similar to yours. Dr hook specifically said "In your own case, condoms were used correctly, consistently and without breakage making this safe, virtually no risk sex."

your condom didnt fail. So no risk

[shaunw84]

All I know is that you're not suppose to use oil base lubricants around a latex condom because they will quickly deteriorate the integrity of the condom.

I think by integrity it  means whether latex become porous to HIV and STDs. I would go with the one that says test.

And I'll tell you why I believe that.  They do make latex condoms in countries like vietnam -- I found a story on it the other day.    But they are made with cheap latex.  They are porous to HIV.  And they don't break.  So I believe its possible for latex that is not up to par to not break and still allow HIV through.

[Vance2335]

You had no risk.