I thought stae 4 is cirrhosis ?

[candyce1953]

Question in another post someone said y had 3/4 and that is cirrhosis

I thout cirrhotic was 4/4, or 4/anything

What is considered cirrhosis?

I am currently 2/2, not bridging yet but moving towards 3 it said
Thanks candy

[Dee1956]

Thank you for the post and the explanations

[candyce1953]

Thank you,advocate!

[Advocate1955]

Yes, I guess it would be important to know if the doctor or the lab report said between f3 - f4, or if they said f3 out of 4 stages.  So, my understanding is that f3 is bridging fibrosis with areas of scarring that are connected by scar tissue, and f4 is bridging fibrosis with increased areas of scarring that are connected by scar tissue and nodules.  With f4 there is also an increased overall area of scarring throughout the liver.  As OH said, a biopsy is only a small section, and it is up to the pathologist to determine if the slice is representative of the overall health of the liver.
Advocate1955

[GoofyDad]

Often 3/4 is used as in three out of four, not between 3 and 4.

[candyce1953]

Thank you Guys you are all great!

[hrsepwrguy]

The link explains all scales used and their grading system, correction in most scales stage 4 is cirrhosis

[hrsepwrguy]

I forgot the link (brain fog)

http://www.hawaii.edu/hivandaids/Fibrosis%20And%20Disease%20Progression%20In%20Hepatitis%20C.pdf

[hrsepwrguy]

Follow the link it will explain fibrosis progression and staging, you are correct stage 4 is cirrhosis

[jules2551]

get a liver biopsy then you will know.  best of luck to you

[orphanedhawk]

You are right.
If someone is bridging from 3 to 4 then they are headed towards cirrhosis.

Also, we must remember that a biopsy only takes a tiny sliver of the liver and is not 100% accurate of the entire liver's condition.
So to assume there is some cirrhosis may be erring for the sake of caution.

Some tests actually stage from 1-6 but I'm not able to explain it to you.
( sorry, can't remember much today)