Supplementary Teatments and Medical help

[mike716]

This is an attempt at starting a sort of thread dedicated to the topic of supplementary medicines and the medical supervision needed to use them correctly before, during and after antiviral treatment.

There are a lot of people with HCV who self-prescribe herbals and botanical treatments and who use dietary supplements, often without the aid of medical supervision because they can't find a doctor who will help them. I am one of those, and I am very uncomfortable with the situation.

I recently had a long exchange of posts with Marcia2202 about a Dr. Zhang, who purports to offer Chinese supplements to antiviral treatment, but who wouldn't or couldn't explain what effect they might have on the antivirals. This is no good. When this happens, we are stuck either using the sepplements without controls, or abandoning what might be helpful substances for fear they will interfere with the SOC.

Gauf, in this forum, seems to be prescribing a whole slew of supplements for himselfa and apparently has quite a lot of experience in this area, but I can't help wondering if he is getting medical support and help with things like dosing of the supplements and timing vis-a-vis his ongoing antiviral treatment, as well as questions like drug conflicts and supplement side effects.

In my opinion there is an urgent need for collaboration between us patients on the subject of supplementary medicines and herbal treatments, and a search for and sharing of information about MDs who are amenable to helping HCV patients with them.

If others besides myself are interested in this idea, let's keep this thread open and active for such information. I invite anyone who can provide it to post it here. The first question is: are there any MDs willing to help us use supplements? If so, who are they? How can we contact them?

Mike

[D977]

I wanted to mention you need to add chlorella with cilantro to take it out and to prevent retoxification, but you are already taking that which is great.
D

[D977]

I just wanted to add to Marcia2202 that i read where the green leaf Cilantro or sometimes called Chinese parsely is excellent for the removal of mercury from the body. Nice posts
Thanks
D

[Marcia2202]

Hey, that with the fish oil and the chlorella was supposed to be a joke! Am taking the krill oil for vit d and the chlorella is a single cell alga, a green food.... It's good for getting rid of toxins in your system and a good source of vit b. I started taking it when I got mercury poisoning from having my  amalgam fillings removed. The dentist took out 5 in two weeks and my body couldn't keep up with the poison and the detox. I didn't know at the time, that one could have such extreme reaction from the removal. And I didn't know I had hep c either.

Thanks for the links. Vitamin E sounds interesting, very interesting. I'm going to read a little more about it and it's sources. I'd prefer to get it naturally ie from my diet, but vit d I can't as there is not much sun where I live.

Particularly high levels of vitamin E can be found in the following foods:

    * Asparagus
    * Avocado
    * Corn
    * Nuts
    * Olives
    * Red Palm Oil
    * Seeds
    * Spinach and other green leafy vegetables
    * Vegetable oils -- corn, sunflower, soybean, cottonseed
    * Wheat germ

[mike716]

Have you got a link to that stuff on not doing PC with PPC?

I imagine they might compete, so maybe if you're taking PPC the PC would stop some of it from being absorbed. But taking the PC-conjugated form of silybin is the only way to go. If you take straight silybum, or just milk thistle, you probably won't get enough of it to really help. That's what I get from reading up on it, anyway.

Mike

[zellyf]

I've read some stuff (here) about not use PC and PPC together.  Some people are taking PPC based on HR's recommendations.  I think CockSparrow is the one who brought this up.

[Marcia2202]

Thanks Mike, I love your humor!!!!

With the dollar being so low, things get quite cheap for us, when we buy them from the US, as everything is so much cheaper than here. DK is one of the most expensive countries in Europe, that really sucks. So usually it's cheaper to order stuff from the US and pay import taxes on it, than buying it here.

Regarding the lead in the krill,    that's why I'm taking the chlorella... :-)   ha ha

Marcia