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Risk of STI from mutual masturbation with pre-*** getting on penis head?
Yesterday I engaged in mutual masturbation with a gay man (I am male).
He never actually masturbated me (I masturbated myself), and I did not touch his penis (I did rub his penis and testicles with his underwear on for a short time). But at one point, he got a small amount of his pre-*** on his fingers and then rubbed it on the shaft of my penis. I don't *THINK* any got on the head of my penis, but I may be wrong, so I suppose it's possible that some got into my urethra, but I don't *THINK* that happened.
He also used a penis pump on me for a short period of time which he uses on himself. It appeared to have not been recently used, but I don't know if it was clean or not. He did rub my testicles for a bit with his hand. We did hold each other a bit (no real rubbing, just him laying on top of me and holding me for a short time), and sucked on each others nipples.
That's all we did. No kissing, no oral, no anal, nothing else at all.
Am I at risk for ANY STI's (NOT just HIV, but any others)? I do not have any broken skin on my penis.
My biggest fear is that his pre-*** may have possibly entered my urethra. Again, I fairly sure that did not happen, but I am not POSITIVE. After he rubbed the small amount of pre-*** on my penis, I continued to masturbate to completion.
I went home and showered. When I urinated, I did feel a fairly sharp pain and since then, I basically have no pain urinating, but my penis does feel strange, almost like a slight burning pain all the time (though not when urinating). No discharge, but I am urinating more frequently than normal. Could the pain and urination be coming from the usage of the penis pump? He did that long enough to cause me some pain.
Do I need to get tested for anything? I am married and most certainly don't want to risk passing something along.
Please help.
Thank you.
He never actually masturbated me (I masturbated myself), and I did not touch his penis (I did rub his penis and testicles with his underwear on for a short time). But at one point, he got a small amount of his pre-*** on his fingers and then rubbed it on the shaft of my penis. I don't *THINK* any got on the head of my penis, but I may be wrong, so I suppose it's possible that some got into my urethra, but I don't *THINK* that happened.
He also used a penis pump on me for a short period of time which he uses on himself. It appeared to have not been recently used, but I don't know if it was clean or not. He did rub my testicles for a bit with his hand. We did hold each other a bit (no real rubbing, just him laying on top of me and holding me for a short time), and sucked on each others nipples.
That's all we did. No kissing, no oral, no anal, nothing else at all.
Am I at risk for ANY STI's (NOT just HIV, but any others)? I do not have any broken skin on my penis.
My biggest fear is that his pre-*** may have possibly entered my urethra. Again, I fairly sure that did not happen, but I am not POSITIVE. After he rubbed the small amount of pre-*** on my penis, I continued to masturbate to completion.
I went home and showered. When I urinated, I did feel a fairly sharp pain and since then, I basically have no pain urinating, but my penis does feel strange, almost like a slight burning pain all the time (though not when urinating). No discharge, but I am urinating more frequently than normal. Could the pain and urination be coming from the usage of the penis pump? He did that long enough to cause me some pain.
Do I need to get tested for anything? I am married and most certainly don't want to risk passing something along.
Please help.
Thank you.
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No, you aren't at any risk from this.
Hands never transmit STIs in the manner you describe. I'll include some threads at the end that explain why, but they just aren't efficient in transmitting them.
If the penis pump was recently used, it's possible that an STI could be transmitted this way, but it would have to be a situation that he used it, then directly used it on you. STIs die pretty quickly once exposed to air, so if he took it from a drawer or whatnot, and he hadn't immediately used it on himself prior, you're fine.
The pain with urination could have been from the penis pump. No STI would give you immediate symptoms like that - it would be at the very minimum 2 days, likely longer, before you saw symptoms.
Unless you were rubbing or grinding, there's no risk from just holding each other, even if your genitals were touching. There's also no risk from kissing or sucking nipples.
Here are some posts from our experts (when we had them) that may help -
https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/Nervous-about-mutual-masturbation/show/2183476
https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/Mutual-Masturbation-STD/show/1968429
https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/mutual-masturbation-sti/show/1858544
https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/Understanding-the-risks-of-mutual-fingering/show/1516796
https://www.medhelp.org/posts/HIV---Prevention/Vaginal-fluid-on-hand-touched-inside-of-condom-and-head-of-penis/show/1119533 - read this thread thoroughly. There is an excellent explanation about why certain activities are not risks, and why others are.
Hands never transmit STIs in the manner you describe. I'll include some threads at the end that explain why, but they just aren't efficient in transmitting them.
If the penis pump was recently used, it's possible that an STI could be transmitted this way, but it would have to be a situation that he used it, then directly used it on you. STIs die pretty quickly once exposed to air, so if he took it from a drawer or whatnot, and he hadn't immediately used it on himself prior, you're fine.
The pain with urination could have been from the penis pump. No STI would give you immediate symptoms like that - it would be at the very minimum 2 days, likely longer, before you saw symptoms.
Unless you were rubbing or grinding, there's no risk from just holding each other, even if your genitals were touching. There's also no risk from kissing or sucking nipples.
Here are some posts from our experts (when we had them) that may help -
https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/Nervous-about-mutual-masturbation/show/2183476
https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/Mutual-Masturbation-STD/show/1968429
https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/mutual-masturbation-sti/show/1858544
https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/Understanding-the-risks-of-mutual-fingering/show/1516796
https://www.medhelp.org/posts/HIV---Prevention/Vaginal-fluid-on-hand-touched-inside-of-condom-and-head-of-penis/show/1119533 - read this thread thoroughly. There is an excellent explanation about why certain activities are not risks, and why others are.
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Thank you sincerely for your reply.
Two follow-up questions:
1. As to the penis pump, I don’t know when he last used it on himself. He took it out of his closet and it was in a box. He and I met at a restaurant for at least an hour prior to him using it on me, so even if he used it on himself immediately prior to meeting me (which I doubt), it would have been at minimum a good hour before he used it on me. So you think I’m good there?
2. My BIGGEST concern is the possibility of his pre-*** entering my urethra. I don’t think that happened. But I know it was close to the head of my penis and possibly on it and then I continued to masturbate. THAT is what scares me. What if it entered my urethra. Any thoughts on that?
Two follow-up questions:
1. As to the penis pump, I don’t know when he last used it on himself. He took it out of his closet and it was in a box. He and I met at a restaurant for at least an hour prior to him using it on me, so even if he used it on himself immediately prior to meeting me (which I doubt), it would have been at minimum a good hour before he used it on me. So you think I’m good there?
2. My BIGGEST concern is the possibility of his pre-*** entering my urethra. I don’t think that happened. But I know it was close to the head of my penis and possibly on it and then I continued to masturbate. THAT is what scares me. What if it entered my urethra. Any thoughts on that?
1 - Yes, you are fine there. Absolutely.
2 - You don't think it entered your urethra, so it probably didn't. Keep reminding yourself of that, and try not to let your anxiety carry you away. Even if it had, though, there probably wasn't enough to transmit anything.
The last thread I linked above - https://www.medhelp.org/posts/HIV---Prevention/Vaginal-fluid-on-hand-touched-inside-of-condom-and-head-of-penis/show/1119533 - has a great explanation of this. You need enough bacteria to be able to transmit, and the small amount you describe that may, but probably didn't, get in your urethra, wouldn't have been enough.
2 - You don't think it entered your urethra, so it probably didn't. Keep reminding yourself of that, and try not to let your anxiety carry you away. Even if it had, though, there probably wasn't enough to transmit anything.
The last thread I linked above - https://www.medhelp.org/posts/HIV---Prevention/Vaginal-fluid-on-hand-touched-inside-of-condom-and-head-of-penis/show/1119533 - has a great explanation of this. You need enough bacteria to be able to transmit, and the small amount you describe that may, but probably didn't, get in your urethra, wouldn't have been enough.
Okay. I will try to believe that. Truth is, I don’t know for sure whether it got in my urethra or not. I mean it’s hard to know something like that. But I’ll cross my fingers and hope I’m right.
Thank you for your help!
Thank you for your help!
Hello, Auntie Jessi!
I wanted to follow-up for a couple of reasons:
1. I wanted to say thank you again for your kind and caring reply. You sincerely helped to relieve my fears; and
2. As a service to anyone else who might be scared to death about a similar situation themselves, I wanted to mention that I DID go ahead and get tested for both chlamydia and gonorrhea (the two STIs that I was very worried about). As you (and Doctor Hunter Handsfield over at AskExpertsNow.com) said they would, both tests came back NEGATIVE. Too often on these forums, people say they're going to go get tested, but then they never follow-up with their results. That's too bad, because, in my opinion, a negative result goes a long way to backing up what you (and the Doctor) have said and thus would help with the fear that people are suffering through. So, that said, I wanted to follow-up. Hopefully it's helpful to someone.
Lastly, in my search for information (which is shockingly hard to find, and often different sources have wildly different answers), I found a great website which might be helpful to people. It lists out just about all common sexual activities and breaks down what exactly a person is at risk for if they engaged in a certain activity. It's an awesome resource, and it may be helpful to someone. I wanted to pass it along.
It is the website for Canada's "official knowledge broker for HIV and hepatitis C" and is known as CATIE. And yes, this list shows ALL STIs, not just HIV and HEP C.
You can find it here: https://www.catie.ca/en/practical-guides/safer-sex-guide/understanding-risk-sex-act.
I do hope this information is helpful to someone, and thank you once again very sincerely for your help!
I wanted to follow-up for a couple of reasons:
1. I wanted to say thank you again for your kind and caring reply. You sincerely helped to relieve my fears; and
2. As a service to anyone else who might be scared to death about a similar situation themselves, I wanted to mention that I DID go ahead and get tested for both chlamydia and gonorrhea (the two STIs that I was very worried about). As you (and Doctor Hunter Handsfield over at AskExpertsNow.com) said they would, both tests came back NEGATIVE. Too often on these forums, people say they're going to go get tested, but then they never follow-up with their results. That's too bad, because, in my opinion, a negative result goes a long way to backing up what you (and the Doctor) have said and thus would help with the fear that people are suffering through. So, that said, I wanted to follow-up. Hopefully it's helpful to someone.
Lastly, in my search for information (which is shockingly hard to find, and often different sources have wildly different answers), I found a great website which might be helpful to people. It lists out just about all common sexual activities and breaks down what exactly a person is at risk for if they engaged in a certain activity. It's an awesome resource, and it may be helpful to someone. I wanted to pass it along.
It is the website for Canada's "official knowledge broker for HIV and hepatitis C" and is known as CATIE. And yes, this list shows ALL STIs, not just HIV and HEP C.
You can find it here: https://www.catie.ca/en/practical-guides/safer-sex-guide/understanding-risk-sex-act.
I do hope this information is helpful to someone, and thank you once again very sincerely for your help!
Thank you for coming back with your results! You're correct that very few ever do, and we appreciate it. :)
Dr. Handsfield is one of the very best in this field. He used to answer here, before we stopped having experts, and we miss him!
Thanks for the resource, too. :)
I hope you found some benefit to our site, and if you ever need us again, we're here.
Dr. Handsfield is one of the very best in this field. He used to answer here, before we stopped having experts, and we miss him!
Thanks for the resource, too. :)
I hope you found some benefit to our site, and if you ever need us again, we're here.
I certainly did and I appreciate it. Hopefully I’ll never find myself in a similar situation again, but I will refer others to this site.
Thank you again!
Thank you again!
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