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Oral thrush????
So I have hashmoto's toxicosis. My tsh has been flip flopping between hypo and hyper constantly for the last 9 months. I am no longer on meds because my uptake showed my thyroid is taking in too much iodine although my tsh usually shows a hypo number with a few exceptions. Anyway, I have been deathly ill. I can't sleep, or sleep too much, my heart races, can't do activities, I'm hot, I'm cold, I have horrible pain, horrible headaches, heartburn, shortness of breath, panic attacks etc etc. Basically I am barely living. So last night my cheeks felt kind of sore, but I didn't think much of it and went to bed. Today it still hurt so I examined it in the mirror and noticed white spots on my tongue. Apparently I have oral thrush =(. I am not scared out of my mind because my whole body is just not working. I have become gluten intolerant in this time (I have not ate gluten) and developed some kind of allergies and now this. My doc prescribed something over the phone, and I have to see her next week, but has anyone else had this happen from hashi's??? I just had my blood tested again as I have a feeling I have swung back hypo. I have not received the results yet. I am so tired =(. Everyday there is something else wrong with me. I am meeting with a surgeon on May 10 for a consultation. I'm scared I can even make it through at this point as I am so ill. I'm 32 and it seems my whole body if falling apart. Now if I don't eat my hands shake as well. I have so much going on that I don't even know where to begin =(.
you can have the potatoes and fruit once you have consumed the protein and giving it a chance to get in you system. Eggs and chees are high in protein. Sugar free peanunt butter. Nuts. Some are higher than others. You graze all day with these things, cheese sticks, nuts, etc to keep your protein going and then at a meal you can have some fruit and potatoes, brown rice.
The A1C test would be beneficial too, I just figured since family members have diabetes that they would have a blood testing kit handy and it would be an immediate way to get a baseline. You will need to test it when you are feeling well, so you will have an idea of what your normal is. Ask a family member the correct times to test. Then when you feel the shakes coming on, test and retest during several time and watch to see if you have a drop (or spike). I would do it with several episodes to get a better history to discuss with your doc.
I realize that you have other issues going on too, but maybe, just maybe this would be an answer or hint to your shakes, rapid heartbeat, heat/cool issues. It is an easier fix. sass
The A1C test would be beneficial too, I just figured since family members have diabetes that they would have a blood testing kit handy and it would be an immediate way to get a baseline. You will need to test it when you are feeling well, so you will have an idea of what your normal is. Ask a family member the correct times to test. Then when you feel the shakes coming on, test and retest during several time and watch to see if you have a drop (or spike). I would do it with several episodes to get a better history to discuss with your doc.
I realize that you have other issues going on too, but maybe, just maybe this would be an answer or hint to your shakes, rapid heartbeat, heat/cool issues. It is an easier fix. sass
I was wondering when someone would mention block and replace/add back therapy. It is very beneficial once used properly. You should have your endo run an A1C to get a better picture, and rule out diabetes. It's much more reliable than one meter test. I also got thrush right around my official graves(possibly hashi as well) diagnosis. I think it was also due to rinsing with hydrogen peroxide 2 times a day. It killed my good bacteria.
I will have to try the glucose testing the next time it happens. Just what I need, another illness added on lol. It seems like my whole body is falling apart. Nothing in it is working right. I will try cutting out the potatoes and fruit as you both have suggested. Since quitting gluten they are the only things I enjoy anymore, so it figures I have to let them go too lol. I HATE meat. I was a vegetarian for 15 years. It seems like the only healthy diet for me is meat though. Yuck. It's so hard for me to eat that way. I always end up starving because I hate meat so much, but I will do what it takes to be health.
I do eat gluten free as I started having an intolerance to it when this started to become severe. My new doc does ask for the free t3 and free t4's. I just had testing again Thursday so i will post labs as soon as they come in.
I wonder if I should try the block and replace. My doc mentioned it, but said it is very difficult to treat that way and that there are some major side effects. He recommended RAI, but I don't want to go that route, so I thought maybe I should do surgery. I am scheduled to meet with a surgeon for a consultation on May 10. I have such little faith in docs tha
It I wonder if they are even good enough to do this method!!!!
I do not eat sugar as it gives me severe reactions, but I do eat rice, potatoes and fruit. I should probably cut out most of that right now.
I already have the acid reflux and extreme digestive issues.
How much selenium is optimal?
Thank you so much for the input.
I wonder if I should try the block and replace. My doc mentioned it, but said it is very difficult to treat that way and that there are some major side effects. He recommended RAI, but I don't want to go that route, so I thought maybe I should do surgery. I am scheduled to meet with a surgeon for a consultation on May 10. I have such little faith in docs tha
It I wonder if they are even good enough to do this method!!!!
I do not eat sugar as it gives me severe reactions, but I do eat rice, potatoes and fruit. I should probably cut out most of that right now.
I already have the acid reflux and extreme digestive issues.
How much selenium is optimal?
Thank you so much for the input.
If your doctor is looking at only the TSH and determining all your thyroid treatment on that alone, - especially with a flip from hyper to hypo with toxic hyper hormone involved, - you are certainly not going to find relief soon.
True hasitoxicosis must be monitored and treated 2 ways so the patient can heal and it is slow.
Frequent lab tests upon a block and replace method along with suppressing the antibodies seperately should be done with tracking symptoms.
In my case with this situation and in hypos in general - Over 95% of the white coated tongue issues will have nothing to do with thrush but soley involved with a celiac issue, poor digestion and toxic stool. A serious change in diet has to be done immediately, along with adding good quality digestion aids like acidophillus.
The diet basically is no sugar - high protein, low fruit and high green veggies (minus Goitrogen based foods)
This issue if not taken care of right can increase a high potent acid in the gut and can start ulcerative colitis, acid reflux, burning tongue and others similiar. The film is baterical infested and can cause the tongue to crack and bleed.
The right labs to get would be definately the Free T3 and Free T4 labs for thyroid. Usually an optimal person will have a high Free T3 to start to see an elimination of the white coating or cottage cheese look on the tongue. It wouldn't hurt to try and suppress the antibodies by looking into selenium supplements also. You have to stabilze this in order to make the thyroid at least do most of its job to help you feel better in some stability.
True hasitoxicosis must be monitored and treated 2 ways so the patient can heal and it is slow.
Frequent lab tests upon a block and replace method along with suppressing the antibodies seperately should be done with tracking symptoms.
In my case with this situation and in hypos in general - Over 95% of the white coated tongue issues will have nothing to do with thrush but soley involved with a celiac issue, poor digestion and toxic stool. A serious change in diet has to be done immediately, along with adding good quality digestion aids like acidophillus.
The diet basically is no sugar - high protein, low fruit and high green veggies (minus Goitrogen based foods)
This issue if not taken care of right can increase a high potent acid in the gut and can start ulcerative colitis, acid reflux, burning tongue and others similiar. The film is baterical infested and can cause the tongue to crack and bleed.
The right labs to get would be definately the Free T3 and Free T4 labs for thyroid. Usually an optimal person will have a high Free T3 to start to see an elimination of the white coating or cottage cheese look on the tongue. It wouldn't hurt to try and suppress the antibodies by looking into selenium supplements also. You have to stabilze this in order to make the thyroid at least do most of its job to help you feel better in some stability.
No kidding that is the same exact symptoms of my low blood sugar. My cardiologist caught it. I had been thru fasting, all kinds of labwork, even in the hospital... never found, then my cardio told me buy or borrow a glucometer and take it when you have the attack, at onset, during and afterm then again an hour after and then 2. Well low and behold I was at 40 during the attack. My husband suddenly developed it also, but he was passing out, we even called an ambulance. By the time they got there he was better, but he kept passing out after he got hot. I took his the same way and boom. Him too. I start shaking so bad, get so hot, go into what I call my feeding frenzy and then I will get cold too, like I am sweating and hot and cold and clamy all at once. My heart races and I sweat. I have even sat at the table in nothing but a bra and panties stuffing my face with cookies and whatever I can get my hands on. I now carry gluclose tablets that have the right carbs in them and pop 3 i when I get the beginning symptoms, I know exactly what it feels like in the first stage and I do NOT hesitate to take them. I eat fully clothed now too. And now that my hubby does he has not passed out since. over a year now. I would pass out only during pregnancy. Eggs, Cheese and Meat is the correct diet for it. And a quick and cheap test is to get some gluclose tablets ( i like the grape and orange) at walmart and pop 3 really quick chew and see if it gets better within 15 minutes. I was so miserable. They had even put me on a strong heart medicine. I would have never found it if I hadn't tested only like he told me to. Potatoes and fruit are a nono unless eaten after the other proteins are down and digesting. Potatoes and fruits Turns to sugar. You say sugar makes you ill. That could be why you get the shakes and palps. I hope this could be an answer and I hope it helps. sass
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