Rash between eyebrows

[dav17]

hi, i have developed an itchy rash between my eyebrows and have been searching a diagnosis as well as a cure. I've come across a site called Fengshui that diagnosis it as "liver imbalance"... They recommend cutting out/reducing animal fats, spicy foods, alcohol, eggs, diary products and eating 2 hours before bed time. All this i am guilty of over-endulging in, are/where you guys?
They then recommend increasing: Strong vegatables e.g. kale, broccoli, watercress, spring onion; salads and chewing very slowly,Try to get up close to sunrise as this is the time of day that supports the liver, Take time to be in real greenery - in parks, on lawns, or in woods - as this quality of energy supports the liver
Try to develop patience. This could involve taking up yoga, Tai Chi or meditationall which i don't do enough of.
Any comment?


This discussion is related to Rash on face, on chin, around nose.

[Dave_GarBo]

~ Admittedly, as I age my body is falling all to pieces. I used to be a damn good looking person. But like the weird wrinkles on my once somewhat-smooth rear-end... that is all behind me now. The latest affliction to afflict me has literally hit me right between the eyes.  I am a 54 yr. old male. I have developed this really irritating and horribly icky-looking, red, flaky rash between my eyebrows (where I first noticed it) and a few such patches, or small areas around my upper lip and chin (these are random/varying in location). I've perused dozens of forums, and anecdotal wisdom reveals that the possible causes of such a dermatological condition vary considerably, to say the very least. An unhealthy liver is mentioned quite frequently.

~ I've never had liver problems. Although I did have a one-sided love-affair with alcohol during my twenties, I have no reason to suspect that my liver was damaged or that it might resemble a Frito's corn chip -- or that it's lying on its back, gasping for oxygen. I've been trying to gain some general knowledge of this type of rash so that I might comprehend Dermatologist Lingo, if and when I seek out professional treatment for this bothersome and unsightly ailment. I will seek out a dermatologist only as a last resort, though. Experience has shown me that the input of most doctors is far less than the output of money required to be poked and prodded in the course of that time-honored guessing-game we call "medical treatment". Can I withstand yet another round of pin-the-tail-on-the-diagnosis? The metaphor leaves me with  visions of a groping, blind-folded physician.

~ I've seen many doctors for many reasons over many years. I could name only a few persons of medicine that have ultimately impressed me with their doctoring skills. My overall estimation of the typical healthcare professional is that a physician's professional efficacy is highly dependent upon their capacity for either a) remembering useful/applicable information encountered during medical education, or (more likely), b) one's talent for searching for and retrieving useful/applicable info which is contained in one or more of the many books and publications (or websites) -- which are available exclusively to doctors/medical practitioners.

~ The preceding criterion no doubt seem somewhat obvious. My point is that the entire medical profession is likely engaged in an established system of sheer speculation -- and that, though they may conceivably hit upon one or more effective approaches to any given health concern, the likelihood of efficaciously treating the patient is highly dependent upon one's finesse (and/or good fortune) at efficient excavation of beneficial data.

~ I'm not saying all doctors are ineffective or that anyone at all who has access to the medical library can do anything a doctor can do. I just feel that more often than not most doctors generally will know "what book it's in" but not necessarily "what's in the book". Except in cases where a scientific test reveals a scientific fact -- such as a blood-sugar level or a test for pregnancy, or the simple reading of a thermometer -- Today's Physician must embark upon a Quest for Truth -- otherwise known as  good old "Trial and Error". What distinguishes the talented physician from the layman who is allowed to sink a shovel into that occult heap of medical trade secrets -- is that the physician has been trained to know pretty much where in the heap to start digging, has multiple shovels shoveling at once, and can scoop up a lot more per shovel-full without spilling it all over somebody's shoes or their own gaily-printed medical scrubs.

~ In conclusion, I'll say that the very last thing I want to do is visit another doctor's office, offer up the old insurance card and request that they "fix me". There are a good number of them that need to see a dubious spot on some x-ray film, or an observable indicator on some sort of gauge or device that clearly points to an obvious problem for which there is an empirical answer -- for which of course there is a tidy standard fee. When the picture of what ails you matches the picture in the Big Medical Book, there is a happy doctor in your life. If there is no spot on the film, for all the doctor knows you are faking it. If a doctor thinks you're bullsh***ing him you may run the risk of being labeled as "exhibiting drug-seeking behavior". Worse yet, terms such as "hypochondria", "questionable mental health", or "crybaby" will suddenly appear in your medical records. Logical, painstaking Process of Elimination is a great approach to any situation for which there is a result (condition), yet the reason for the result (cause) is unclear. However, the doctor usually forges ahead without regard to the costs incurred by the patient, whose precious dollars are in the Process of being Eliminated.

~ Wish me luck as I traverse the world-wide-web desperately seeking a remedy to this latest mysterious malady. I've posted in a dozen or more forums and the responses are as varied as the blemishes on my face. Multiple varied afflictions can result in similar symptoms. One approach works for one person, but the next person will waste time and money trying the same thing. But I do truly believe that for these idiopathic physical hindrances we sometimes encounter, the wisest thing is to do your own investigating, hope that common-sense prevails, and in the course of it all, not charge yourself one shiny red cent for all that trouble you're going through in your own personal Quest for Truth.

~ Dave




  

[dav17]

I saw those remedies and diagnosis with other members thanks. Just for your information i have inreased my egg intake in the last 3 months but increased exercise as well. I have seen that some people say egg is bad for the liver and some say it cleans the liver??? i have noticed that drinking alcohol definitly makes it worse... I do not use any cleansers or soaps ( i don't suffer from pimples anymore) because they make it worse as well. The only moistoriser I use is pure vitimain E which does help. Last week I swam alot in pool full of HTH which actually seemed to help it cleared up!!! My gut feel is its a sign of my liver taking strain, i do drink alot, even for a 21 year old- about 10 tots a week but i drink alot of water...
I would like to highlight a few more things:
it started between the eyebrows.
-I am undergowing more stress than ever, I have started my career in Financial Planning and started an IT company!!!
-As a baby i was born with thrush!
-between the ages of 1-5 i suffered from sever Asthma, which as absolutley no effect on me currently (someone asked if everyone suffered from asthma as well)
-I smoke
-I was obese growing up approx 100kg but now i weigh 70kg-75kg due to "Body for Life" from EAS.I was using alot of supplements during the program including Creatine.
-I suffer from dandruff I have been using "Head & Shoulders" for the last 5 years or so to treat dandruff. After some research i have discovered what an EVIL product it is lol. It contains Sodium Laureth Sulfate (SLS) and Sodium Lauryl Sulfate, without research i recall what a dehydrating agent Sodium is...plus these compounds are carsinagenic(cancer-causing) **spelling**. Before the rash started i started applying H&S to my eyebrows because i noticed slight dandruff.
TRIAL & ERROR:
-I will lay off the egg for awhile.
-I'm going increase Folic Acid, Vitimain A, in a nutshell all my greens.
-I'm going to cut out animal fats.
-definitly discontinue Head & Shoulders. I have come across but haven't tried Ketomousse (Italian product). Maybe even take H&S to court :-)they should warn you about those compounds...
-Lay off the booze :-(  
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[Dr Santos]

Hi,

Having a good balanced diet is highly recommended. The rash on your face may be due  to dermatitis wherein groups of itchy or tender small red papules appear around the eyes or sometimes around the mouth, nose or chin.

Discontinue applying all face creams including topical steroids, cosmetics and sunscreens in the face. Wash the face with warm water alone while the rash is present. If it persists, it would be best to have this evaluated further by a dermatologist for proper management. A course of oral antibiotics for six to twelve weeks may be prescribed.

Take care and keep us posted.