Looking for sage advice

[TrickyTrammies]

Ok, so this is try #2 to kick the Tramadol addiction.  I did it last October and lasted until this past April when in a moment of weakness I answered a phone call from an online pharmacy and didn't immediately hang up, I ordered a bottle of  50mg (180ct) of my old friend Tramadol.  It's been 4 months and now I'm really ticked off that I'm back to my old ways of a bottle a week and trying to schedule my life around meeting the ups dude to sign for the packages.  Argh!!!!!

I purposely let myself run out and took my last trammies Sunday night.  It's Tuesday and I'm "Off Sick" from work and wondering what in the world I think I'm doing?!?!?!?!  Why did I pick now to do this?  Work is slamming, and I'm going to find myself behind the eight ball in real short order.  If I remember correctly last time it took about 4-5 days before I was able to sit still and get work done.  I spend the majority of my days in front of a computer and this is not good.  I know I should follow through even though the timing is not right.  A chance to come clean is a chance to take.  I went CT and am busy sweating, aching (from legit problems with Fribromyalgia and RA) and can't sleep.

Open to any suggestions.  Please.

[TrickyTrammies]

Truer words were never spoken.  I spent a few mins of my lunch hour online looking for NA resources locally.

You, my friend, are true genius material!  :)

Thank you!

TT

[GoingToMakeIt]

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results. Now is the time to go to NA or AA and to get some counseling so that you don't do this again. Even 'geniuses' need help.

[TrickyTrammies]

Thanks to all that answered. Since this is my 2nd time around on the Trammie-Go-Round I do know not to beat myself up, but hey, I also knew it was bad for me and a major no-no when I ordered that bottle of 180 ct after being clean for 7 months.  Sometimes even us genius' have a momentary lapse of reason.  This was mine, but dang, what a price to pay.  I have to say, as the life long recreational chemical participant that I am that this has got to be the worst monkey of them all.  I don't care if it isn't a true opiate, per se', this little bugger has been the meanest I've bumped in to in my 44 years cruising this galaxy.  

So ends day #2 clean.  I can't do the Thomas Reciepe, I don't have an Doc to RX me the Valium.  My regular Doc doesn't believe in detoxing Tramadol and I don't know who else to go to - I can't afford this little 'issue' getting back to my employer.  I work for a good co, but being from the deep south, the good old boy network thrives in my place of employ, and I'm not anatomically equipped to join that club.  So, this little piece of dirt would not allow me to enjoy the large contributions they make to my bank account.  

As for the seizures -- I was truly worried about the seizures / brain zaps of Trammie while going CT.  I bumped across several web sites that stated that the possibility of those are highest while indulging at high or higher than prescribed levels.  That coupled with the fact that I managed to make it unscathed, in the seizure dept, last time I went CT, I'm going forward -- full speed - torpedoes ahead.  Keep your fingers crossed.  

I'm feeling better this evening.  Yesterday and most of today was pretty dang lousy.  It's just too darn hot/sticky/mosquito ridden to play in my hot tub too long.  It's 11:15 and currently 88 degrees outside.  Yuck.  Takes all the joy out of that tub.  But so be it.  I hope tomorrow is a better day.  I also hope my choice to sneak in a quick visit to MR. B (Biccardi & diet pepsi) doesn't come back to bite me in the butt in the morning.  I WILL be going to work tomorrow - I've made arrangements to come in a bit later than my normal 6 am starting time and am going to work the rest of the week (normally I work mon - thurs 10 hrs per day) so I won't loose quite as much time.

I hope the rest of the night treats you all well, you are a good lot with a large heart.  Be kind to yourselves, you really do deserve it.

G Speed,  G Bless.

TT

[worried878]

Tramadol is supposed to be tapered due to seizures..but i know it is hard for an addict to taper...made me want to take more than i usually woulda taken!...and if u r out of pills then u dont really have a choice...u r in day 2 so i guess u know the drill....u only used like 4 months this time it sounds like...180 pills a week is a high dose...but since it has not been that long mabe it will be easier....the aminos such as 5htp and SAMe should help alot with the depression that tram detox can bring..are u taking anything for anxiety and sleep?  would be good to have something on hand...I am not sure if tram detox includes the runs but imodium stops that and takes the edge off of wds/liquid is best...exercise is a wonderful endorphin releaser...best of luck and dont beat urself up...u screwed up but u r fixing it...keep posting

[Victor322]

Since you have been through this drill before you know what to expect and how to work around the wd effects when possible. From a psychological perspective you know how not to let the bad feelings of WD bring down your self-esteem knowing that it's just the bad feelings from the wd and not who you really are as it's often to easy to let illness indulge our negative self-talk regarding our own 'stuff'. No need to indulge in negative self-talk!

Stay strong and determined like a soldier and you'll be just fine. I know that for me while in wd when-ever I could reach out and talk to others it became another opportunity to shift my attention away from myself and the wd's. Cleaning the house as well as exercise also help tremendously.


Good luck to you, I'm sure you'll be fine. Please keep us posted on your progress.
-Vic

[Sunnyd210]

Im sorry I dont really have any advice for u, but I wanted to send out some support. The ultram issue makes me very angry. I had a bad experience with them but thats another story. I just dont understand why the medical profession is so behind on this problem. As far as im concerned those pills are worse than anything ive ever taken and there is no regulation because they arent a controlled substance. Good luck to u my friend I hope u feel better soon.

[TrickyTrammies]

Thanks, I'll go hunt down the thonas receipe and amino acids.  The doc thing will be a no go.  The one and only time I tried to talk to the doc about this she said "just stop", called all the local pharms.  That was how I found out how easy it was to order them online with the help of your friendly online doc who ALWAYS approves your script.  What a mess that makes of things if you've got the financial ability to play in that sandbox.  I know it is no one's fault but my own, I ordered them, paid for them, and signed for them when UPS man came a-knockin', but it sure is hard to forget about them.  :(

thomas receipe a-hunting I go!

Tks,

TT

[cocobeanlisa]

You are doing the right thing, there is never a good time
to do this and you have already started.

check out the amnio acids and the thomas receipe on thehealth pages,
that should help.  Take another couple of days off and do
this all will catch up in the end.  ANd your life is more important
than any job....Take vacation time if needed.  I went to My Family DR
and told him what I was doing and got a sick note.

Hang in there
cocobean