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vicoprofen/hyrdocodone withdrawal
I came upon this cite this morning as I sit here waiting for a call from my doctor about refilling a vicoprofen prescription. I've never done anything like this before (a bulletin board). But I too want to get off this stuff but seem incapable. I have a job I love but that is very stressful. I get up at 4:45 am to work out of my home so that when I pick my daughter up from preschool at noon, I can have the day with her, unencumbered my other things (mainly my job). She is 4 and the joy of my life. Her father takes her to her preschool. I am currently taking about 4-5 per day for migraines; it really helps, but I also recognize that I am taking it now because I need it to exist well. I, like others, have taken Ultram. It certainly will keep the withdrawal symptoms of hydrocodone away, but only causes its own. I am just curious for any responses; I want to quit this, but I know if my doctor calls back and I have a prescription, I'll be at the pharmacy within 30 minutes... I guess this is a cry for help, so Help!
This has been very helpful to me! I thought that I had lost my mind. I haven't used Vicoprofen since November, when I went to see a neurologist for my migraines, but I knew that something strange was happening to me. I was enjoying the meds too much. When the neurologist said that I did not need any more, I have to admit that I was more than a little disapointed. I thank God that I was stopped when I was, or there's no telling where I would be now. I pray for all of you that are fighting this battle and encourage you to keep beating this thing. We all can do it!!
Hey everyone--I've been out of town for the past couple of days (job-related) and missed having you to "talk" to (actually, I could have set my computer up but didn't really NEED to and didn't want the hassle becuase I was in a courtroom most of the time anyway). First KORG--YOU ARE WONDERFUL!!!!!!!!!!! You know, I had started a "withdrawal" (because there was a problem getting my presecription at first, not self-imposed) and made it 29 hours. I had just started having to run to the bathroom when I finally was able to take some again. But I'm sitting here thinking that if I had suffered through, I would be where you are now--actually about 24 hours ahead of you and how I wish I had done so! But you have given me--and I think others--inspiration... of course, I'm not actually doing anything about it yet, but let me say that talking with you guys has made me think about doing it a whole lot more. THanks too for those who have been encouraging me on the tapering at a much slower rate than I was thinking. I keep thinking that if I am serious about this, then I would only take 4 today and 3 tomorrow and 2 for the next few days thereafter and then 1 for a week... but I feel so overwhelmed by this and perhaps that is what I need, is to do it more slowly. So how is everyone else doing?
Hi Lanas, So great to see you! I've misses seeing you, so please keep posting. Thanks for your kind words: )
At 1:00 am last night, I passed throu the 100 hour mark. It's now 106 hours clean and continuing. It's easier this morning getting out of bed. And the morning cloud isn't as thick as it has been in days past. I do have some chills and cold like symptoms this morning, but I'm praying that they will pass as they did yesterday. I have a slight physical craving this morning, but again, it's not bad. And I'm saying, NO!
The morning pains are there, but only moderate.
As I sip my morning coffee, and look outside, I see it's a lovely day to be alive, and even better to be living drug free.
Love to all, Korg
At 1:00 am last night, I passed throu the 100 hour mark. It's now 106 hours clean and continuing. It's easier this morning getting out of bed. And the morning cloud isn't as thick as it has been in days past. I do have some chills and cold like symptoms this morning, but I'm praying that they will pass as they did yesterday. I have a slight physical craving this morning, but again, it's not bad. And I'm saying, NO!
The morning pains are there, but only moderate.
As I sip my morning coffee, and look outside, I see it's a lovely day to be alive, and even better to be living drug free.
Love to all, Korg
Hi Lanas, I wanted to add a suggestion about your taper. You can start by cutting the pills in half also. So instead of starting from 4 to 3, you can do a few days or longer at 3 and a half. What I'm saying here is taper at a pace that is "doable". Then stay at that for a few days or as long as you need to do it. Let your body adjust.
Why freak yourself out by going to fast? I tried doing it fast at first, and couldn't do it. So my well meaning desire only led to failure. Then a binge.
So I took baby steps when I could do that. I'm sure you just want it to be over with. Don't we all. But don't overwhelm yourself. Do it at a pace you CAN do, and do easily. Why make yourself suffer if you don't have too. If your only taking 4 pills a day, I'd imagine you'll have an easier time then some of us that like me, would take 4 at a time or worse. Thats not to belittle your situation. I'm praying for your sucess. I have faith in you that you'll find a taper that will work for you. And if you fail, Try, try again.
But now that I've been "off" of them now for over 100 hours, I feel that my baby steps and the slowness that I tapered are the reason I've recovered so quickly. Once I finally got to zero, my withdraw pains have been very minimal. So slow but sure, for me at least, is the way to go.
Most importantly, Pray. Ask God to help and guide you. He did, and is still guiding my steps.
much love, Korg
Why freak yourself out by going to fast? I tried doing it fast at first, and couldn't do it. So my well meaning desire only led to failure. Then a binge.
So I took baby steps when I could do that. I'm sure you just want it to be over with. Don't we all. But don't overwhelm yourself. Do it at a pace you CAN do, and do easily. Why make yourself suffer if you don't have too. If your only taking 4 pills a day, I'd imagine you'll have an easier time then some of us that like me, would take 4 at a time or worse. Thats not to belittle your situation. I'm praying for your sucess. I have faith in you that you'll find a taper that will work for you. And if you fail, Try, try again.
But now that I've been "off" of them now for over 100 hours, I feel that my baby steps and the slowness that I tapered are the reason I've recovered so quickly. Once I finally got to zero, my withdraw pains have been very minimal. So slow but sure, for me at least, is the way to go.
Most importantly, Pray. Ask God to help and guide you. He did, and is still guiding my steps.
much love, Korg
Thanks so much for the suggestion. THe one problem I have is that I have vicoprofen and they are not scored, so when you try to cut them in half, they disintegrate. I truly do not understand why they are not scored. But only 4-5 a day (sometimes 6) is a little more than it may sound b/c vicoprofen is 7.5 mg of hydrocodone. So when I take 2 or 3 at a time, it is like taking 3-4.5 vicodin. Does anyone have a suggestion on how to cut these in half? I think it is a good idea. Korg--don't give in to that little craving; I've heard some say that just giving it 20 seconds at a time it will pass. See? I'm learning so much that when I finally do this, I should be set! I've got to get this Thomas recipe or someone mentioned another--why does this seem to help? I am sooooo happy for you! While I'm working this morning I've been listening to a wonderful jazz CD with Charlie Haden and Hank Jones that is of spirituals, hymns and folk songs. You're knowledge that God has helped you through sort of inspired me here. It's making me think of you and your success and it is really beautiful--keep it up and keep letting us know!!!! It's really really good for me (if I can be totally self-centered about it for a moment). But you truly are an inspiration.
HI
I read your post....You are exactly right. I went to the ER last Fri.: huge chest pains, ears ringing, heart racing I was scared to death. I may my peace with those who were with me and I knew I was going to die. I have NEVER EVER felt anything like that before. Well they rushed me back treated me as a heart attack patient but my heart seemed fine to them except for the racing 200 beat per min. Well, they gave me 1.5 of ativan "push" nitro, and a SHITLOAD of morphine out of a suringe into my iv hookup. I calmed down a little (very little) but the morphine did nothing but make me feel I weighed twice my weight. A few minutes with me still proclaiming my death and my chest being crushed (i was in a total panic)they gave me half a
big suringe full of morphine again. I still knew I was going to die but after that shot I did not give a rats' ass. I was not high...just melancholy. They got the heart stabalized and send me to the coronary icu. They came by every little bit with another 20mg of morphine iv and nitro. I asked the nurse why all the dope? She said chest pain and the headache I will have because of all the nitro. Well I did not sleep and later Sat morning they switched me to Oxycontin and some heart meds etc...Yes, my head was popping open!!! but I had none of my ultrams.....first 24hours then 36, then 48 wow...Was I done?
All I felt was the little zaps! (from ultram withdrawal) Then I was able to go home last night. Still not sure what happened to my heart but the stress test did not show any damage. So, I now have doc appts out the ass. But guess what happened in the middle of last night I woke up on a full ultran withrdawal!!! Sweats, chills, depressed, getting zapped (shocked) every few seconds. So, I woke up, got up, out of bed took a couple ultrams and have no staved off the wd's for a bit. I am now out on the pharmacy search I have a few scripts somewhere that have partials etc (I HOPE).
SO, 2 years ago that much morphine would make me get up off an operating table and go find a Pink Floyd renunion concert and a bag of weed. BUT NOW WITH THAT NICE LITTLE ULTRAM RECEPTOR BINDING, ANTAGONIST PROPERTY EVEN THE JERRY GARCIA WING OF MY HOSPITALS" DRUG GIVING WING COULD NOT GIVE ME A SMILE WITH SOME GOOD DOPE!!! Hell, they were giving oxys and other pills in a little cup handing them to me and walking away, so you know I just had to chew them up oxy,zocor, potassium, digi something? all chewed at once before they webt down the hatch. Two hours later more drugs....later, a big fat oxy that by itself in my cup that I put my teeth into. The nurse saw me and said I thought you had trouble swallowing you should have told us and I could just give you an injection!!!! DAMN, I said to her...You all seem to be very easy going here? She said well, this is a cardiac unit and we have to keep it very smooth and quiet here.
Well I cutting back my ultram but I am still on course to detox....
I read your post....You are exactly right. I went to the ER last Fri.: huge chest pains, ears ringing, heart racing I was scared to death. I may my peace with those who were with me and I knew I was going to die. I have NEVER EVER felt anything like that before. Well they rushed me back treated me as a heart attack patient but my heart seemed fine to them except for the racing 200 beat per min. Well, they gave me 1.5 of ativan "push" nitro, and a SHITLOAD of morphine out of a suringe into my iv hookup. I calmed down a little (very little) but the morphine did nothing but make me feel I weighed twice my weight. A few minutes with me still proclaiming my death and my chest being crushed (i was in a total panic)they gave me half a
big suringe full of morphine again. I still knew I was going to die but after that shot I did not give a rats' ass. I was not high...just melancholy. They got the heart stabalized and send me to the coronary icu. They came by every little bit with another 20mg of morphine iv and nitro. I asked the nurse why all the dope? She said chest pain and the headache I will have because of all the nitro. Well I did not sleep and later Sat morning they switched me to Oxycontin and some heart meds etc...Yes, my head was popping open!!! but I had none of my ultrams.....first 24hours then 36, then 48 wow...Was I done?
All I felt was the little zaps! (from ultram withdrawal) Then I was able to go home last night. Still not sure what happened to my heart but the stress test did not show any damage. So, I now have doc appts out the ass. But guess what happened in the middle of last night I woke up on a full ultran withrdawal!!! Sweats, chills, depressed, getting zapped (shocked) every few seconds. So, I woke up, got up, out of bed took a couple ultrams and have no staved off the wd's for a bit. I am now out on the pharmacy search I have a few scripts somewhere that have partials etc (I HOPE).
SO, 2 years ago that much morphine would make me get up off an operating table and go find a Pink Floyd renunion concert and a bag of weed. BUT NOW WITH THAT NICE LITTLE ULTRAM RECEPTOR BINDING, ANTAGONIST PROPERTY EVEN THE JERRY GARCIA WING OF MY HOSPITALS" DRUG GIVING WING COULD NOT GIVE ME A SMILE WITH SOME GOOD DOPE!!! Hell, they were giving oxys and other pills in a little cup handing them to me and walking away, so you know I just had to chew them up oxy,zocor, potassium, digi something? all chewed at once before they webt down the hatch. Two hours later more drugs....later, a big fat oxy that by itself in my cup that I put my teeth into. The nurse saw me and said I thought you had trouble swallowing you should have told us and I could just give you an injection!!!! DAMN, I said to her...You all seem to be very easy going here? She said well, this is a cardiac unit and we have to keep it very smooth and quiet here.
Well I cutting back my ultram but I am still on course to detox....
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