A Real Problem or The Power of The Mind?

[james1278]

Hello,

I think this is the right spot for my post as I have been suffering from anxiety, paranoia and being generally nervous since last oct.

I have posted here before in the 'STI' section and the reason for my upset, I became very upset with worry about HIV for some time, had 3tests over 4months and have been told that I'm all clear and the GUM (I'm in the UK) are not concerned about me.

The reason for my ongoing anxiety is the fact I have been suffering from an upset tongue since mid dec (dark red, sore looking down the middle with dry fuzzy feeling) which has since turned to oral thrush (I have white patches on/down the middle of the surface of the tongue with the dry fuzzy feeling) in the last 2months or so. One reason for these problems could be a 1week course of strong antibiotics I took about 3months ago (3tabs, 4times a day= 12tabs a day), once I finished them the tongue issue started and has continued to date, but I took them 3months ago, could my tongue have been that badly affected?

Just recently in the last week I have had a sore red patch on my upper gums at the back of my mouth (above the back teeth) which has now turned into a small ulcer type spot. I realise it could be an ulcer but I've never had one last a week and my gums above my back teeth were quite red and sore looking before this happened, its the same on the other side too but not too bad and just a sore patch, no ulcer type spot on the other side yet.

Basically this isn't helping my mental health and I'm really very anxious and nervous with worry about whats going on and why I have these problems. Could this all be simply the power of my mind and I'm running down my own immune system with constant worry!!? is it possible that the power of the mind can do this and cause such symptoms!!??

One thing has led to another ever since last oct when I started getting odd symptoms which led me to worry about HIV even though I now know I was never really at risk (recieved unprotected oral sex from women on 3occasions). I want to get on with my life but I can't shake these problems and I'm terrified I may have mouth cancer or even HIV still....I can't help it, if the problems weren't here I wouldn't worry...simple.

I have been advised by the health adviser at the GUM clinic that its very possible that its all mental and I'm doing it myself but I really need other peoples advice and knowledge here, more opinions would be helpful :) thanku.

[Julie359]

Well the Cod Liver oil can't do u any harm, it is a sorce of Omega 3 so may help with ur anxiety.  Omega 3 is good in general. Plus the muti-bionia will help to boost ur immune and nervous system, so again good.  If u don't want to initally try the eco-balance (which is legit, I've taken it) u could go to Holland and Barretts, they have both garlic capsules and Acidophlius (which is a pro biotic) and will help.  I would suggest though if u do decide to go to H and B having a good chat with the trained staff who will be able to advise u on the best products in ur price range.

[james1278]

Julie: what do you think about seven seas cod liver oil and  seven seas multibionta activate tabs? I have been taking cod liver oil for afew yrs and have taken the multibionta tabs just once (one little tub, probably about 30days worth). You reckon these are good? do you think separate garlic tabs will be any good?

I'm really thinking about eco-balance but I'm still alittle unsure as its an online only thing you know...dunno if its 'proper' or not, you know what I mean right.

I wanna see what the dentist thinks first as he will really be able to get a good look n feel around hehe

[james1278]

OK well I went to my GP today and he said he doesn't think there is anything wrong with my tongue, he reckoned the white/pale area is normal and its probably the red sore area near the front of the tongue surface that makes it look white in contrast, this does comply with what afew others have told me but it also contradicts what my other GP told me afew weeks ago (my GP has about 3docs that I see). He said its glossitis and gave me Difflam which is an oral rinse, I haven't actually used an oral rinse yet only Nystatin for fungal probs which he knows about. He also said to go to my dentist to see what he thinks...I am doing so in a weeks time. It does seem like just peoples opinions as one doc told me it can take months for yr system to sort itself out whilst the doc today said he didn't think it should last 3months after taking the antibiotics....I'm waiting for a check at ENT (ear, nose, throat) at the hospital also, they should be able to give a definite view I hope.

I'm curious about this eco-balance but unsure to use it as I'm not sure if thats what I really need, I know you can get garlic tabs/supplements at the chemist and shops, should I maybe try taking them? I do take cod liver oil tabs but you think I should maybe try something I can buy at the chemist before the eco-balance?

I have also been eating the probiotic yoghurts for some time now too, dunno if they are any good.

[Julie359]

Eco-balance is 4 different capsules taken over the course of the day, one is a strong pre and pro biotic, another is L-Glutamine an amino acid that repairs the intestinal lining that drugs such as strong anti-biotics can interfer with, another is the freexe dried garlic which is what kills the Candida that in the body (not just the intestines) and brings it back into control and lastly Cinnimon capsule that acts as a strong anti-oxidant, to clear the body of Candida toxins.  Just to make you aware that oral thrush is Candida and seeing as traditional medicine hasn't worked so this kinda tells me you need to treat ur body as a whole and not just using mouth rinses to treat the localized area,  You won't be able to get Eco-balance from your doctor as it is classed as a herbal supplement, but you can get it online... Just to let u know I have used this product before due to an over growth in my intestines (confirmed through a stool sample) and it made a difference to my general anxiety level and stopped the constant female thrush episodes that was occuring and digestion issue I was facing. You may need to take these supplements for a few month or longer but the results will be truely worth it.

google Eco-balance supplement as ur in the UK, it should come up on a herbalist web-site that sells loads of other supplements, it look a bit like the Holland and Barrett web-site, although H and B don't do this.

Plus as other people have told you it sounds extremely uinlikely to be mouth cancer, that is ur health anxiety doing its part there making u think the worst.  As I mentioned before stop your sugar intake as well as its feeding the thrush and making it worse.

[james1278]

The ulcer I have is indeed between the cheek and gum, right in that meeting point at the very top at the back of the mouth, above the back teeth and its a b***h. Had it about a week now but it started as a red sore patch or area on the gum...odd.

Seems to feel like its getting better then it seems to come back abit....damn it!!!

Anyone know of these garlic tabs?? if they are good for my thrush issue :)

[MeganPixel]

I just wanted to drop a line about the mouth ulcers - I get that as well when I get very stressed - like a rash of LARGE canker sores in strange places (ex. back of mouth between cheek and gum), and sore spots on the gum occasionally.  I can't remember having injured my mouth in those areas, so as far as I can tell they are spontaneous.  They are VERY painful and cause my whole neck to swell up and I can hardly eat!!  They usually last about a week before they heal.  This happens to me in very memorable episodes of about 3-4 times a year. Does this sound similar to what you're experiencing?

One thing that I try that seems to help sometimes (but takes time to work) is taking over the counter famotidine (Ex. Pepcid AC) regularly for a few days.  I also flush the sores with hydrogen peroxide (which burns like @#$% but disinfects).  Also trying not to drink acid-rich things like orange juice or cola which really aggravates it.

I have never gotten conclusive medical advice on them or whether the ulcers could be related to thrush but after reading this, I will ask my doctor, too. I take inhaled corticosteriods for asthma which can contribute to thrush spells.  I did ask the dentist about this before, but since it didn't seem poor dental health was a contributor, he referred me back to my regular doctor.