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Honest Answers, No BS! LONG post!
:} Okay the topic is this......how many really do other med's to help get thru the symptoms of Hep and the sides of tx?
Please bare in mind in this long story, that I am also a dress up, ‘normal’ business woman that most would be in shock if they saw me when doing this!
As most here awhile have probably heard from me a time or two.....I am VERY 'anti drug' -abuse of prescribed drugs, street drugs’ and active in fighting the worst 'new' threats, crack and the again popular meth, grabbing our young by the b*alls! (and ‘old’) People get 'hooked' very often on that 1st hit with those. I have literally 'bought' 'kids' from dealers, give them a picture, they set them up and if I get them, in hand, they get the money. We all know-most of us- that a crack head will sell their mom for a hit! I have a few I ‘use’ for this and have gotten who I am looking for every time. Our understanding is, you help me, I shut up on you! I have a ‘Christian drug counselor’ who has given my name,# to parents to help find their kid. I have gotten the call at 4:00 am and gone into 'crack town' alone to get them, have jumped thru the back of a car window, put a knife to the scumbags throat and drug the kid out! I have chased crack dealers with an axe handle! (Dangerous and extreme yes, but that one was a loved family member drug into it by an older, using guy that made a habit of getting 'kids' hooked to use their $$! That 'man' is now in prison 3 years, poor thing! )With a scar on his arm from me! That 'kid' is, 2 years later, drug free, into the arts and back to being a GQ , handsome, going somewhere young man that he was. It is heartbreaking the ‘kids’ I would see at those place’s. Cops ‘overlook’ me and actually respect what I do, tho have made the speech I may get hurt, etc. And as extreme as my methods are, I am proud to say only one I couldn't 'save', yet he did go back to the re-hab later and is now clean. I am one crazy woman. (need to add....I have a bit of biker, and some tough guys back up and our local police dept. actually goes 'in' with me at times 'off the record' , not arresting anyone, just helping me get who I came for!) All is also out of my pocket. I have lived in that world, briefly, 32 years ago, and will do anything I can to get someone out of it. (the success rate of quitting crack, for good, is 5%!! Once 'hooked') I went into all that as.....am not, nor ever been ashamed of how we believe I got Hep C, is when I 'ran away' at 16 yrs. old and 'lived in the streets' (a virgin, no less!!) and got with people and tried all kinds of drugs, had done heroin before loosing my virginity! Within 2 years, by the grace of God.....a 'street guy' that cared took me back to Fla., left me with friends and snuck out in the night, of which I had seen so much I knew I did not want that life. I saw terrible things and many are amazed I never got hurt and ‘walked’ away so easily. I than became anti-anti-anti. Went on to be a good mother of 3 and have a great life. I now use my disease in my 'talks' with young people to say "SEE....look what stupid young mistakes can do! ALL these years later'. My plan, was working on before dx, so now after tx. Is to get a few acre’s and make an ‘animal rescue, kid’s in trouble come take care of them’ counseling type ranch. It’d be pretty hypocritical if I became addicted to med’s thru tx and hep to do this! LOL.
That all said.......I also developed a bit of a phobia for all drugs, even ‘good, needed’ med’s. Took NOTHING. (tx has been a ‘conquer the phobia’ for me!) Several years ago encountered 'panic attacks'?? Tough, no fear woman kicked to the curb. My dr., knowing I never took med's...said 'be a good girl and JUST try these"..... xanax, lowest dose and wouldn't do AD's. With them and a LOT of mental training, beat those and long gone from my daily life. I do them occasionally to sleep and always made sure I was careful not to do daily, get addicted, etc. THAN came hep symptoms, terrible aches, pains and could not do any of my very active jobs well, he gave me Vicoprofen. Again, very careful with them and suffer most days as opposed to doing daily. NOW..…(babble, babble.-sorry!).....I could not have gotten thru hep symptoms, dx, and now tx without doing those 2 pill's on the really bad days and 1st shot day Dr. even gave me Valium and said do the night before and do an hour before app. I read and hear a lot here on suffering and comments on some med's hurt the liver, etc. but my Hep Dr. has clearly told me the amounts I can safely do (and don't even do that much). SOOOOO.....Of course not anyone that is a recovering addict as per worries of a relapse, but how many are actually doing pain med’s or calming med's thru this? My sons and man had to fight with me to actually use them a bit more rather than suffer "YOU (knowing me) will NOT get addicted, stop suffering!” A small part of me still worries that I may have to do some of them from now on, yet I also feel...WHY suffer if they can help? So folks…..how many really do need other med’s to help get thru this?
Thanks for listening to my ‘out there’ long babbling post :}, to anyone who didn’t give up and quit reading 10 minutes ago :}
LL
Please bare in mind in this long story, that I am also a dress up, ‘normal’ business woman that most would be in shock if they saw me when doing this!
As most here awhile have probably heard from me a time or two.....I am VERY 'anti drug' -abuse of prescribed drugs, street drugs’ and active in fighting the worst 'new' threats, crack and the again popular meth, grabbing our young by the b*alls! (and ‘old’) People get 'hooked' very often on that 1st hit with those. I have literally 'bought' 'kids' from dealers, give them a picture, they set them up and if I get them, in hand, they get the money. We all know-most of us- that a crack head will sell their mom for a hit! I have a few I ‘use’ for this and have gotten who I am looking for every time. Our understanding is, you help me, I shut up on you! I have a ‘Christian drug counselor’ who has given my name,# to parents to help find their kid. I have gotten the call at 4:00 am and gone into 'crack town' alone to get them, have jumped thru the back of a car window, put a knife to the scumbags throat and drug the kid out! I have chased crack dealers with an axe handle! (Dangerous and extreme yes, but that one was a loved family member drug into it by an older, using guy that made a habit of getting 'kids' hooked to use their $$! That 'man' is now in prison 3 years, poor thing! )With a scar on his arm from me! That 'kid' is, 2 years later, drug free, into the arts and back to being a GQ , handsome, going somewhere young man that he was. It is heartbreaking the ‘kids’ I would see at those place’s. Cops ‘overlook’ me and actually respect what I do, tho have made the speech I may get hurt, etc. And as extreme as my methods are, I am proud to say only one I couldn't 'save', yet he did go back to the re-hab later and is now clean. I am one crazy woman. (need to add....I have a bit of biker, and some tough guys back up and our local police dept. actually goes 'in' with me at times 'off the record' , not arresting anyone, just helping me get who I came for!) All is also out of my pocket. I have lived in that world, briefly, 32 years ago, and will do anything I can to get someone out of it. (the success rate of quitting crack, for good, is 5%!! Once 'hooked') I went into all that as.....am not, nor ever been ashamed of how we believe I got Hep C, is when I 'ran away' at 16 yrs. old and 'lived in the streets' (a virgin, no less!!) and got with people and tried all kinds of drugs, had done heroin before loosing my virginity! Within 2 years, by the grace of God.....a 'street guy' that cared took me back to Fla., left me with friends and snuck out in the night, of which I had seen so much I knew I did not want that life. I saw terrible things and many are amazed I never got hurt and ‘walked’ away so easily. I than became anti-anti-anti. Went on to be a good mother of 3 and have a great life. I now use my disease in my 'talks' with young people to say "SEE....look what stupid young mistakes can do! ALL these years later'. My plan, was working on before dx, so now after tx. Is to get a few acre’s and make an ‘animal rescue, kid’s in trouble come take care of them’ counseling type ranch. It’d be pretty hypocritical if I became addicted to med’s thru tx and hep to do this! LOL.
That all said.......I also developed a bit of a phobia for all drugs, even ‘good, needed’ med’s. Took NOTHING. (tx has been a ‘conquer the phobia’ for me!) Several years ago encountered 'panic attacks'?? Tough, no fear woman kicked to the curb. My dr., knowing I never took med's...said 'be a good girl and JUST try these"..... xanax, lowest dose and wouldn't do AD's. With them and a LOT of mental training, beat those and long gone from my daily life. I do them occasionally to sleep and always made sure I was careful not to do daily, get addicted, etc. THAN came hep symptoms, terrible aches, pains and could not do any of my very active jobs well, he gave me Vicoprofen. Again, very careful with them and suffer most days as opposed to doing daily. NOW..…(babble, babble.-sorry!).....I could not have gotten thru hep symptoms, dx, and now tx without doing those 2 pill's on the really bad days and 1st shot day Dr. even gave me Valium and said do the night before and do an hour before app. I read and hear a lot here on suffering and comments on some med's hurt the liver, etc. but my Hep Dr. has clearly told me the amounts I can safely do (and don't even do that much). SOOOOO.....Of course not anyone that is a recovering addict as per worries of a relapse, but how many are actually doing pain med’s or calming med's thru this? My sons and man had to fight with me to actually use them a bit more rather than suffer "YOU (knowing me) will NOT get addicted, stop suffering!” A small part of me still worries that I may have to do some of them from now on, yet I also feel...WHY suffer if they can help? So folks…..how many really do need other med’s to help get thru this?
Thanks for listening to my ‘out there’ long babbling post :}, to anyone who didn’t give up and quit reading 10 minutes ago :}
LL
I've always found that some people resent it when you post anything about trying to help anything....there will always be these people, it might trigger something in them that they don't like .....God knows, that's their deal...but it's not about you and what youre trying to do, it's about their opinions about it, on a internet board...which they are entitled to.
This side is for chat, and we can chat about anything and everything, the reason the forum owners made this side of the board is for fellowship and being able to talk about things beside Hepatitis (which can get tedious sometimes, like anything else)...to get to know each other apart from that disease...if we so wish....or we can talk about the "lighter side of being sick with hepatitis, lol" whatever we want....
If someone doesn't like your train of thought, or your posts, or the color of your hair, etc. whatever, there is a great function on one's computer, it's called a scroll bar, one only has to move it to another post, or thread, whatever....
Everyone *is* entitled to one's own opinions, but I just find it odd to debate about what someone does in their own personal life (as long as they are not hurting anybody or any thing...) we all are entitled to live the lives we want to have...it's not like debating about the effectiveness of one treatment plan over another...that's something else....and debates like that are useful to forum members, to help decide and decipher from layman's opinions and experiences...
But here, live the way you want to live, and if you want to talk about holes in your tennis shoes, go ahead, this side of the board is for the Chatty Kathy's of the world, of which, I'm a proud member, lol....or your dog, or bird, or boyfriend, (not necessarily in that order:) or some guy's girlfriend or wife, whatever!!!
This side is for chat, and we can chat about anything and everything, the reason the forum owners made this side of the board is for fellowship and being able to talk about things beside Hepatitis (which can get tedious sometimes, like anything else)...to get to know each other apart from that disease...if we so wish....or we can talk about the "lighter side of being sick with hepatitis, lol" whatever we want....
If someone doesn't like your train of thought, or your posts, or the color of your hair, etc. whatever, there is a great function on one's computer, it's called a scroll bar, one only has to move it to another post, or thread, whatever....
Everyone *is* entitled to one's own opinions, but I just find it odd to debate about what someone does in their own personal life (as long as they are not hurting anybody or any thing...) we all are entitled to live the lives we want to have...it's not like debating about the effectiveness of one treatment plan over another...that's something else....and debates like that are useful to forum members, to help decide and decipher from layman's opinions and experiences...
But here, live the way you want to live, and if you want to talk about holes in your tennis shoes, go ahead, this side of the board is for the Chatty Kathy's of the world, of which, I'm a proud member, lol....or your dog, or bird, or boyfriend, (not necessarily in that order:) or some guy's girlfriend or wife, whatever!!!
Thanks and trust me, that opinion meant about as much as my 1st Dr.'s telling me "oh your depressed' with all the hep symptoms! Especially after asking 'ANY exp. or knowlegde' of the sheeet your muttering!
I am starting to exp. the term 'Riba rage' I have heard so much about.....I am very proud of how I COULD have handled that post :} I AM still a bit in control, LOL!
I did wonder tho, am I supposed to go save 'WALES' or "WHALES"..... Big difference there! :}
LL
I am starting to exp. the term 'Riba rage' I have heard so much about.....I am very proud of how I COULD have handled that post :} I AM still a bit in control, LOL!
I did wonder tho, am I supposed to go save 'WALES' or "WHALES"..... Big difference there! :}
LL
Gauf......Agree (and thank you ), even if only one. Times that 1 x 100 doing that, and so on.
froggydan, it's shot day, Riba's kicking my self opinionated arse and don't need your self opinionated arse either :}
ONE question, what HAVE you done of any value in the world lately (or at all)?
Far more open to a critic IF they have ANY back ground, experience or knowledge TO criticize!
I WOULD ask Forseegood an opinion, advice as she HAS exp. in that area. You have posted none but that "oh, it ain't gonna help " opinion.
Note: CONSTRUCTIVE criticism versus insulting criticism.
Go read the book again!
And that would be 'MS. DOGGETTE' to you, sir !!
Have a nice carefree day...................
froggydan, it's shot day, Riba's kicking my self opinionated arse and don't need your self opinionated arse either :}
ONE question, what HAVE you done of any value in the world lately (or at all)?
Far more open to a critic IF they have ANY back ground, experience or knowledge TO criticize!
I WOULD ask Forseegood an opinion, advice as she HAS exp. in that area. You have posted none but that "oh, it ain't gonna help " opinion.
Note: CONSTRUCTIVE criticism versus insulting criticism.
Go read the book again!
And that would be 'MS. DOGGETTE' to you, sir !!
Have a nice carefree day...................
What a fool that one is huh? Popping up out of nowhere to spout ridiculous **** for no reason. I wonder who it REALLY is...which puppetmaster is behind those strings? Seems we have so many idiots lately.
hang in there girl..........we've all been attacked by one fool or another at some point. Consider it a compliment that such a moron doesn't understand a word you are saying :)
hang in there girl..........we've all been attacked by one fool or another at some point. Consider it a compliment that such a moron doesn't understand a word you are saying :)
I am a recovering addict and alcoholic. I will take any prescribed med for as long as it is prescribed and then done. I've never had a problem with that. I too am a smoker and will be until they throw me in jail (which is not far fetched anymore). As far as helping kids stay off drugs or taking an active role in prevention, God Bless You. Don't let anyone tell you it's a waste of time. They said that to Mother Theresa, "it won't help the big picture", well it sure helped the ones she picked up off the street! Her philosophy was one, one, one..... I admire her above all woman save one.
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