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Honest Answers, No BS! LONG post!
:} Okay the topic is this......how many really do other med's to help get thru the symptoms of Hep and the sides of tx?
Please bare in mind in this long story, that I am also a dress up, ‘normal’ business woman that most would be in shock if they saw me when doing this!
As most here awhile have probably heard from me a time or two.....I am VERY 'anti drug' -abuse of prescribed drugs, street drugs’ and active in fighting the worst 'new' threats, crack and the again popular meth, grabbing our young by the b*alls! (and ‘old’) People get 'hooked' very often on that 1st hit with those. I have literally 'bought' 'kids' from dealers, give them a picture, they set them up and if I get them, in hand, they get the money. We all know-most of us- that a crack head will sell their mom for a hit! I have a few I ‘use’ for this and have gotten who I am looking for every time. Our understanding is, you help me, I shut up on you! I have a ‘Christian drug counselor’ who has given my name,# to parents to help find their kid. I have gotten the call at 4:00 am and gone into 'crack town' alone to get them, have jumped thru the back of a car window, put a knife to the scumbags throat and drug the kid out! I have chased crack dealers with an axe handle! (Dangerous and extreme yes, but that one was a loved family member drug into it by an older, using guy that made a habit of getting 'kids' hooked to use their $$! That 'man' is now in prison 3 years, poor thing! )With a scar on his arm from me! That 'kid' is, 2 years later, drug free, into the arts and back to being a GQ , handsome, going somewhere young man that he was. It is heartbreaking the ‘kids’ I would see at those place’s. Cops ‘overlook’ me and actually respect what I do, tho have made the speech I may get hurt, etc. And as extreme as my methods are, I am proud to say only one I couldn't 'save', yet he did go back to the re-hab later and is now clean. I am one crazy woman. (need to add....I have a bit of biker, and some tough guys back up and our local police dept. actually goes 'in' with me at times 'off the record' , not arresting anyone, just helping me get who I came for!) All is also out of my pocket. I have lived in that world, briefly, 32 years ago, and will do anything I can to get someone out of it. (the success rate of quitting crack, for good, is 5%!! Once 'hooked') I went into all that as.....am not, nor ever been ashamed of how we believe I got Hep C, is when I 'ran away' at 16 yrs. old and 'lived in the streets' (a virgin, no less!!) and got with people and tried all kinds of drugs, had done heroin before loosing my virginity! Within 2 years, by the grace of God.....a 'street guy' that cared took me back to Fla., left me with friends and snuck out in the night, of which I had seen so much I knew I did not want that life. I saw terrible things and many are amazed I never got hurt and ‘walked’ away so easily. I than became anti-anti-anti. Went on to be a good mother of 3 and have a great life. I now use my disease in my 'talks' with young people to say "SEE....look what stupid young mistakes can do! ALL these years later'. My plan, was working on before dx, so now after tx. Is to get a few acre’s and make an ‘animal rescue, kid’s in trouble come take care of them’ counseling type ranch. It’d be pretty hypocritical if I became addicted to med’s thru tx and hep to do this! LOL.
That all said.......I also developed a bit of a phobia for all drugs, even ‘good, needed’ med’s. Took NOTHING. (tx has been a ‘conquer the phobia’ for me!) Several years ago encountered 'panic attacks'?? Tough, no fear woman kicked to the curb. My dr., knowing I never took med's...said 'be a good girl and JUST try these"..... xanax, lowest dose and wouldn't do AD's. With them and a LOT of mental training, beat those and long gone from my daily life. I do them occasionally to sleep and always made sure I was careful not to do daily, get addicted, etc. THAN came hep symptoms, terrible aches, pains and could not do any of my very active jobs well, he gave me Vicoprofen. Again, very careful with them and suffer most days as opposed to doing daily. NOW..…(babble, babble.-sorry!).....I could not have gotten thru hep symptoms, dx, and now tx without doing those 2 pill's on the really bad days and 1st shot day Dr. even gave me Valium and said do the night before and do an hour before app. I read and hear a lot here on suffering and comments on some med's hurt the liver, etc. but my Hep Dr. has clearly told me the amounts I can safely do (and don't even do that much). SOOOOO.....Of course not anyone that is a recovering addict as per worries of a relapse, but how many are actually doing pain med’s or calming med's thru this? My sons and man had to fight with me to actually use them a bit more rather than suffer "YOU (knowing me) will NOT get addicted, stop suffering!” A small part of me still worries that I may have to do some of them from now on, yet I also feel...WHY suffer if they can help? So folks…..how many really do need other med’s to help get thru this?
Thanks for listening to my ‘out there’ long babbling post :}, to anyone who didn’t give up and quit reading 10 minutes ago :}
LL
Please bare in mind in this long story, that I am also a dress up, ‘normal’ business woman that most would be in shock if they saw me when doing this!
As most here awhile have probably heard from me a time or two.....I am VERY 'anti drug' -abuse of prescribed drugs, street drugs’ and active in fighting the worst 'new' threats, crack and the again popular meth, grabbing our young by the b*alls! (and ‘old’) People get 'hooked' very often on that 1st hit with those. I have literally 'bought' 'kids' from dealers, give them a picture, they set them up and if I get them, in hand, they get the money. We all know-most of us- that a crack head will sell their mom for a hit! I have a few I ‘use’ for this and have gotten who I am looking for every time. Our understanding is, you help me, I shut up on you! I have a ‘Christian drug counselor’ who has given my name,# to parents to help find their kid. I have gotten the call at 4:00 am and gone into 'crack town' alone to get them, have jumped thru the back of a car window, put a knife to the scumbags throat and drug the kid out! I have chased crack dealers with an axe handle! (Dangerous and extreme yes, but that one was a loved family member drug into it by an older, using guy that made a habit of getting 'kids' hooked to use their $$! That 'man' is now in prison 3 years, poor thing! )With a scar on his arm from me! That 'kid' is, 2 years later, drug free, into the arts and back to being a GQ , handsome, going somewhere young man that he was. It is heartbreaking the ‘kids’ I would see at those place’s. Cops ‘overlook’ me and actually respect what I do, tho have made the speech I may get hurt, etc. And as extreme as my methods are, I am proud to say only one I couldn't 'save', yet he did go back to the re-hab later and is now clean. I am one crazy woman. (need to add....I have a bit of biker, and some tough guys back up and our local police dept. actually goes 'in' with me at times 'off the record' , not arresting anyone, just helping me get who I came for!) All is also out of my pocket. I have lived in that world, briefly, 32 years ago, and will do anything I can to get someone out of it. (the success rate of quitting crack, for good, is 5%!! Once 'hooked') I went into all that as.....am not, nor ever been ashamed of how we believe I got Hep C, is when I 'ran away' at 16 yrs. old and 'lived in the streets' (a virgin, no less!!) and got with people and tried all kinds of drugs, had done heroin before loosing my virginity! Within 2 years, by the grace of God.....a 'street guy' that cared took me back to Fla., left me with friends and snuck out in the night, of which I had seen so much I knew I did not want that life. I saw terrible things and many are amazed I never got hurt and ‘walked’ away so easily. I than became anti-anti-anti. Went on to be a good mother of 3 and have a great life. I now use my disease in my 'talks' with young people to say "SEE....look what stupid young mistakes can do! ALL these years later'. My plan, was working on before dx, so now after tx. Is to get a few acre’s and make an ‘animal rescue, kid’s in trouble come take care of them’ counseling type ranch. It’d be pretty hypocritical if I became addicted to med’s thru tx and hep to do this! LOL.
That all said.......I also developed a bit of a phobia for all drugs, even ‘good, needed’ med’s. Took NOTHING. (tx has been a ‘conquer the phobia’ for me!) Several years ago encountered 'panic attacks'?? Tough, no fear woman kicked to the curb. My dr., knowing I never took med's...said 'be a good girl and JUST try these"..... xanax, lowest dose and wouldn't do AD's. With them and a LOT of mental training, beat those and long gone from my daily life. I do them occasionally to sleep and always made sure I was careful not to do daily, get addicted, etc. THAN came hep symptoms, terrible aches, pains and could not do any of my very active jobs well, he gave me Vicoprofen. Again, very careful with them and suffer most days as opposed to doing daily. NOW..…(babble, babble.-sorry!).....I could not have gotten thru hep symptoms, dx, and now tx without doing those 2 pill's on the really bad days and 1st shot day Dr. even gave me Valium and said do the night before and do an hour before app. I read and hear a lot here on suffering and comments on some med's hurt the liver, etc. but my Hep Dr. has clearly told me the amounts I can safely do (and don't even do that much). SOOOOO.....Of course not anyone that is a recovering addict as per worries of a relapse, but how many are actually doing pain med’s or calming med's thru this? My sons and man had to fight with me to actually use them a bit more rather than suffer "YOU (knowing me) will NOT get addicted, stop suffering!” A small part of me still worries that I may have to do some of them from now on, yet I also feel...WHY suffer if they can help? So folks…..how many really do need other med’s to help get thru this?
Thanks for listening to my ‘out there’ long babbling post :}, to anyone who didn’t give up and quit reading 10 minutes ago :}
LL
I used to smoke, but gave them up about 12 years ago. I drink 2 cups of coffee a day, now, but during treatment couldn't stomach even a cup of it. But, I cannot seem to give up my sugar/chocolate addiction. I am so bad, I'll give up a regular meal and/or cut out eating at lot for one of my meals, in order to feed my craving for chocolate and then, make myself do the treadmill, to try to burn off some of the chocolate. And it's like, I really don't seem to be highly motivated to change it any, just like people are w/their smokes. Same w/my certain shows on T.V.....I'm like if I know I'm not going to be here for the time frame that it's on, I'll set up my DVR to record them. Fortunately, I haven't had a big weight problem...yet. Anyway, we all have our vices, I think. Susan
It's a horrible addiction (I am also addicted to coffee) and people that beat it well I don't know HOW they do it. They suck so much but the more I think about them the more I want one! I'm smoking "ultra lights" full well knowing that means NOTHING and I might as well be smoking Camels but...you know I can con myself easily enough these days and keep saying that I'm going to quit any day when I"m really 'ready'. Yeah...they'll be putting a marker over my head saying here lies a mother who loved her kids enough to do 72 weeks of tx but stupidly couldn't stop killing herself anyway. OH I get so mad at myself and the tobacco companies!
But hey...I could be addicted to brownies too so for today - at least there's that! ;)
But hey...I could be addicted to brownies too so for today - at least there's that! ;)
NYgirl.....your so kind :)
Chellski......ditto on what NYgirl said. I smoke thru everything, even pnemonia also! Everyone took my cigs, the second I was alone in the house, jumped in the car....RAN to the store, bought 4 packs and hid them! HORRIBLE habit. All while eating organic food, drinking wheatgrass, no drugs, doing yoga! Health nut that smokes...thats me! (hypocrite comes to mind :{....)
Even going thru this tx, actually craving them MORE??
Bought 'organic chemical free' cigs!! STILL crave a Winston with all those 300 (?) chemicals they add!
Cigs suck :{ LL
Chellski......ditto on what NYgirl said. I smoke thru everything, even pnemonia also! Everyone took my cigs, the second I was alone in the house, jumped in the car....RAN to the store, bought 4 packs and hid them! HORRIBLE habit. All while eating organic food, drinking wheatgrass, no drugs, doing yoga! Health nut that smokes...thats me! (hypocrite comes to mind :{....)
Even going thru this tx, actually craving them MORE??
Bought 'organic chemical free' cigs!! STILL crave a Winston with all those 300 (?) chemicals they add!
Cigs suck :{ LL
It's ok - we all get like this on treatment after we discover the forum...running at the mouth that is...but that is NOTHING uncommon for me, at all. gosh some of us could write paragraph after paragrah about nothing at all - at least you have something to SAY! :)
Chell = I can smoke thru pneumonia no problem, treatment whatever...the only time I couldn't smoke was after I fell and my rib went thru my lung and I was in ICU with a chest tube in - pneumothorax was what they called it. Unfortunately after 10 days when I got out I took the patch off and took a drag. Yup. NYGirl <<< No brains in her head. At all. Sick.
Chell = I can smoke thru pneumonia no problem, treatment whatever...the only time I couldn't smoke was after I fell and my rib went thru my lung and I was in ICU with a chest tube in - pneumothorax was what they called it. Unfortunately after 10 days when I got out I took the patch off and took a drag. Yup. NYGirl <<< No brains in her head. At all. Sick.
question: did you guys smoke while on tx? one thing i've never done - cigarette smoking...but can't imagine smoking when feeling so sick...jw....chelley
Whew..... I was running out of words to say...."I'm so dam lucky I never got addicted and use my exp. now to teach/NAG others! Glad ya' got it! LOL How ironic, also was a point in that I could try something like heroin, walk away and CAN'T from nicotine! Yes mam, they are the monkey on my back too, for years. Plus that ol' 'hate that they control ME' factor, h*ell, my dad, drugs and no man could ever 'control' me.....watch me jump when I'm down to one cig! :}
Forseegood, ya may not believe this:}.....but me too on the animal saving! Knew we had to have things in common! I never did the save from torture, testing ONLY as never ran across a facility or got word of one, but did a whole lot of 'animal stealing' from 'kill dog pounds' and so on. I had the whole set of keys to a pound in Colorado, never stole a thing but animals that were going down! On a regular basis my friends or 1 st son would go there, he'd stand at the back fence, I'd throw them over :} I actually went into a crack house window and stole the dog they'd beat on, not feed and taken MANY from yards that were abused. Had 28 dogs at one time, finding them homes. My sons dad walks in to see a bull mastif in the kitchen, hands me $20. , shakes his head and says 'I guess you better go buy more dog food!" As we speak, I have 2 needing homes :}
And you do have thick skin and b*ll's......you couldv'e gotten shot, went to jail.
( my only 'criminal record' is over dogs !!:}
And good for you on the counseling, REALLY wanted to put together a junior high school (best ripe age to get to them) program (many hoops to go thru to do this) of REALITY drug course. Before/after pics (teens are vain, show them what they can look like in a few mths., year on crack/meth!) REAL recovered addicts that have much to offer as oppossed to some guy that got a degree and never smoked a joint! A re-hab in our 'affordable' list, not one in the building has ever smoked pot....they need people that speak FROM exp. I know people on crack now that would speak to help keep a kid away from it all. And the sad reality is.......with crack...re-hab success if 5% and normally a waste of $. The highest % that quit for good are 'on thier own' !!
Uh oh...here I go again. I better find a 'drug help forum' and get back to Hep C.
.............LL
Forseegood, ya may not believe this:}.....but me too on the animal saving! Knew we had to have things in common! I never did the save from torture, testing ONLY as never ran across a facility or got word of one, but did a whole lot of 'animal stealing' from 'kill dog pounds' and so on. I had the whole set of keys to a pound in Colorado, never stole a thing but animals that were going down! On a regular basis my friends or 1 st son would go there, he'd stand at the back fence, I'd throw them over :} I actually went into a crack house window and stole the dog they'd beat on, not feed and taken MANY from yards that were abused. Had 28 dogs at one time, finding them homes. My sons dad walks in to see a bull mastif in the kitchen, hands me $20. , shakes his head and says 'I guess you better go buy more dog food!" As we speak, I have 2 needing homes :}
And you do have thick skin and b*ll's......you couldv'e gotten shot, went to jail.
( my only 'criminal record' is over dogs !!:}
And good for you on the counseling, REALLY wanted to put together a junior high school (best ripe age to get to them) program (many hoops to go thru to do this) of REALITY drug course. Before/after pics (teens are vain, show them what they can look like in a few mths., year on crack/meth!) REAL recovered addicts that have much to offer as oppossed to some guy that got a degree and never smoked a joint! A re-hab in our 'affordable' list, not one in the building has ever smoked pot....they need people that speak FROM exp. I know people on crack now that would speak to help keep a kid away from it all. And the sad reality is.......with crack...re-hab success if 5% and normally a waste of $. The highest % that quit for good are 'on thier own' !!
Uh oh...here I go again. I better find a 'drug help forum' and get back to Hep C.
.............LL
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