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Honest Answers, No BS! LONG post!
:} Okay the topic is this......how many really do other med's to help get thru the symptoms of Hep and the sides of tx?
Please bare in mind in this long story, that I am also a dress up, ‘normal’ business woman that most would be in shock if they saw me when doing this!
As most here awhile have probably heard from me a time or two.....I am VERY 'anti drug' -abuse of prescribed drugs, street drugs’ and active in fighting the worst 'new' threats, crack and the again popular meth, grabbing our young by the b*alls! (and ‘old’) People get 'hooked' very often on that 1st hit with those. I have literally 'bought' 'kids' from dealers, give them a picture, they set them up and if I get them, in hand, they get the money. We all know-most of us- that a crack head will sell their mom for a hit! I have a few I ‘use’ for this and have gotten who I am looking for every time. Our understanding is, you help me, I shut up on you! I have a ‘Christian drug counselor’ who has given my name,# to parents to help find their kid. I have gotten the call at 4:00 am and gone into 'crack town' alone to get them, have jumped thru the back of a car window, put a knife to the scumbags throat and drug the kid out! I have chased crack dealers with an axe handle! (Dangerous and extreme yes, but that one was a loved family member drug into it by an older, using guy that made a habit of getting 'kids' hooked to use their $$! That 'man' is now in prison 3 years, poor thing! )With a scar on his arm from me! That 'kid' is, 2 years later, drug free, into the arts and back to being a GQ , handsome, going somewhere young man that he was. It is heartbreaking the ‘kids’ I would see at those place’s. Cops ‘overlook’ me and actually respect what I do, tho have made the speech I may get hurt, etc. And as extreme as my methods are, I am proud to say only one I couldn't 'save', yet he did go back to the re-hab later and is now clean. I am one crazy woman. (need to add....I have a bit of biker, and some tough guys back up and our local police dept. actually goes 'in' with me at times 'off the record' , not arresting anyone, just helping me get who I came for!) All is also out of my pocket. I have lived in that world, briefly, 32 years ago, and will do anything I can to get someone out of it. (the success rate of quitting crack, for good, is 5%!! Once 'hooked') I went into all that as.....am not, nor ever been ashamed of how we believe I got Hep C, is when I 'ran away' at 16 yrs. old and 'lived in the streets' (a virgin, no less!!) and got with people and tried all kinds of drugs, had done heroin before loosing my virginity! Within 2 years, by the grace of God.....a 'street guy' that cared took me back to Fla., left me with friends and snuck out in the night, of which I had seen so much I knew I did not want that life. I saw terrible things and many are amazed I never got hurt and ‘walked’ away so easily. I than became anti-anti-anti. Went on to be a good mother of 3 and have a great life. I now use my disease in my 'talks' with young people to say "SEE....look what stupid young mistakes can do! ALL these years later'. My plan, was working on before dx, so now after tx. Is to get a few acre’s and make an ‘animal rescue, kid’s in trouble come take care of them’ counseling type ranch. It’d be pretty hypocritical if I became addicted to med’s thru tx and hep to do this! LOL.
That all said.......I also developed a bit of a phobia for all drugs, even ‘good, needed’ med’s. Took NOTHING. (tx has been a ‘conquer the phobia’ for me!) Several years ago encountered 'panic attacks'?? Tough, no fear woman kicked to the curb. My dr., knowing I never took med's...said 'be a good girl and JUST try these"..... xanax, lowest dose and wouldn't do AD's. With them and a LOT of mental training, beat those and long gone from my daily life. I do them occasionally to sleep and always made sure I was careful not to do daily, get addicted, etc. THAN came hep symptoms, terrible aches, pains and could not do any of my very active jobs well, he gave me Vicoprofen. Again, very careful with them and suffer most days as opposed to doing daily. NOW..…(babble, babble.-sorry!).....I could not have gotten thru hep symptoms, dx, and now tx without doing those 2 pill's on the really bad days and 1st shot day Dr. even gave me Valium and said do the night before and do an hour before app. I read and hear a lot here on suffering and comments on some med's hurt the liver, etc. but my Hep Dr. has clearly told me the amounts I can safely do (and don't even do that much). SOOOOO.....Of course not anyone that is a recovering addict as per worries of a relapse, but how many are actually doing pain med’s or calming med's thru this? My sons and man had to fight with me to actually use them a bit more rather than suffer "YOU (knowing me) will NOT get addicted, stop suffering!” A small part of me still worries that I may have to do some of them from now on, yet I also feel...WHY suffer if they can help? So folks…..how many really do need other med’s to help get thru this?
Thanks for listening to my ‘out there’ long babbling post :}, to anyone who didn’t give up and quit reading 10 minutes ago :}
LL
Please bare in mind in this long story, that I am also a dress up, ‘normal’ business woman that most would be in shock if they saw me when doing this!
As most here awhile have probably heard from me a time or two.....I am VERY 'anti drug' -abuse of prescribed drugs, street drugs’ and active in fighting the worst 'new' threats, crack and the again popular meth, grabbing our young by the b*alls! (and ‘old’) People get 'hooked' very often on that 1st hit with those. I have literally 'bought' 'kids' from dealers, give them a picture, they set them up and if I get them, in hand, they get the money. We all know-most of us- that a crack head will sell their mom for a hit! I have a few I ‘use’ for this and have gotten who I am looking for every time. Our understanding is, you help me, I shut up on you! I have a ‘Christian drug counselor’ who has given my name,# to parents to help find their kid. I have gotten the call at 4:00 am and gone into 'crack town' alone to get them, have jumped thru the back of a car window, put a knife to the scumbags throat and drug the kid out! I have chased crack dealers with an axe handle! (Dangerous and extreme yes, but that one was a loved family member drug into it by an older, using guy that made a habit of getting 'kids' hooked to use their $$! That 'man' is now in prison 3 years, poor thing! )With a scar on his arm from me! That 'kid' is, 2 years later, drug free, into the arts and back to being a GQ , handsome, going somewhere young man that he was. It is heartbreaking the ‘kids’ I would see at those place’s. Cops ‘overlook’ me and actually respect what I do, tho have made the speech I may get hurt, etc. And as extreme as my methods are, I am proud to say only one I couldn't 'save', yet he did go back to the re-hab later and is now clean. I am one crazy woman. (need to add....I have a bit of biker, and some tough guys back up and our local police dept. actually goes 'in' with me at times 'off the record' , not arresting anyone, just helping me get who I came for!) All is also out of my pocket. I have lived in that world, briefly, 32 years ago, and will do anything I can to get someone out of it. (the success rate of quitting crack, for good, is 5%!! Once 'hooked') I went into all that as.....am not, nor ever been ashamed of how we believe I got Hep C, is when I 'ran away' at 16 yrs. old and 'lived in the streets' (a virgin, no less!!) and got with people and tried all kinds of drugs, had done heroin before loosing my virginity! Within 2 years, by the grace of God.....a 'street guy' that cared took me back to Fla., left me with friends and snuck out in the night, of which I had seen so much I knew I did not want that life. I saw terrible things and many are amazed I never got hurt and ‘walked’ away so easily. I than became anti-anti-anti. Went on to be a good mother of 3 and have a great life. I now use my disease in my 'talks' with young people to say "SEE....look what stupid young mistakes can do! ALL these years later'. My plan, was working on before dx, so now after tx. Is to get a few acre’s and make an ‘animal rescue, kid’s in trouble come take care of them’ counseling type ranch. It’d be pretty hypocritical if I became addicted to med’s thru tx and hep to do this! LOL.
That all said.......I also developed a bit of a phobia for all drugs, even ‘good, needed’ med’s. Took NOTHING. (tx has been a ‘conquer the phobia’ for me!) Several years ago encountered 'panic attacks'?? Tough, no fear woman kicked to the curb. My dr., knowing I never took med's...said 'be a good girl and JUST try these"..... xanax, lowest dose and wouldn't do AD's. With them and a LOT of mental training, beat those and long gone from my daily life. I do them occasionally to sleep and always made sure I was careful not to do daily, get addicted, etc. THAN came hep symptoms, terrible aches, pains and could not do any of my very active jobs well, he gave me Vicoprofen. Again, very careful with them and suffer most days as opposed to doing daily. NOW..…(babble, babble.-sorry!).....I could not have gotten thru hep symptoms, dx, and now tx without doing those 2 pill's on the really bad days and 1st shot day Dr. even gave me Valium and said do the night before and do an hour before app. I read and hear a lot here on suffering and comments on some med's hurt the liver, etc. but my Hep Dr. has clearly told me the amounts I can safely do (and don't even do that much). SOOOOO.....Of course not anyone that is a recovering addict as per worries of a relapse, but how many are actually doing pain med’s or calming med's thru this? My sons and man had to fight with me to actually use them a bit more rather than suffer "YOU (knowing me) will NOT get addicted, stop suffering!” A small part of me still worries that I may have to do some of them from now on, yet I also feel...WHY suffer if they can help? So folks…..how many really do need other med’s to help get thru this?
Thanks for listening to my ‘out there’ long babbling post :}, to anyone who didn’t give up and quit reading 10 minutes ago :}
LL
Whew! Not a post I needed to hear on shot day, (above!!!) LOL.
Definatley try the tarblockers. try online, but as I said, will mail you some if you can't get there.
And strange, and sad, my ANTI, nagged me for years to quit son also started smoking :
But quit this year! Another one smokes, yep, that hurts.
YOU -"I sure don't deserve the mother of the year award and it breaks my heart so much."
None of us are perfect, cept Froogydan up there (kidding guy, kidding!) and as your kids started later in life, not like they were stealing yours at 12 to 'be cool' like mom..... stop beating yourself up. All mine started after moving out also (or hid it well from me:} You seem like a good person and good mom, and D*M strong, give that TO yourself.
YOU: "so I have another cig and a piece of Dove dark chocolate and go on with life."
As the &^%$# wine or vodka is out, Dove will do :}
And speaking of whining, I'm about to post a real whining post!
Expecting sympathy and 'buck up' girl replies:}, both being good!
LL
Definatley try the tarblockers. try online, but as I said, will mail you some if you can't get there.
And strange, and sad, my ANTI, nagged me for years to quit son also started smoking :
But quit this year! Another one smokes, yep, that hurts.
YOU -"I sure don't deserve the mother of the year award and it breaks my heart so much."
None of us are perfect, cept Froogydan up there (kidding guy, kidding!) and as your kids started later in life, not like they were stealing yours at 12 to 'be cool' like mom..... stop beating yourself up. All mine started after moving out also (or hid it well from me:} You seem like a good person and good mom, and D*M strong, give that TO yourself.
YOU: "so I have another cig and a piece of Dove dark chocolate and go on with life."
As the &^%$# wine or vodka is out, Dove will do :}
And speaking of whining, I'm about to post a real whining post!
Expecting sympathy and 'buck up' girl replies:}, both being good!
LL
Froggydan..........while I respect your opinion and your more than entitled to it, please do not assume that I am naive, nor insult me with the comment. (followed by 'I respect your actions' ??)
I am anything but naive dear and ’naïve’ would have never came out alive in some things I have done/do. And please read my previous post where I said..."unfortunately some are unsaveable", which I have seen often. That, however, does NOT mean a mother should stop trying to help her son or a sister should stop trying to help a brother. Hand them $, enable them, NO, keep trying to help, yes. Doing NOTHING is what....admirable tough love? And for the record, how many have you gotten into treatment, with success, that 'didn't want to be saved'???
Myself, 4 that I drug out of the house's and took there. 3 out of 4 are still clean. And several that did ADMIT to wanting help. Also, when was the last time you knew ANY addict that wanted to stay an addict? Even the hardest core addict dreams of life without it!
As for the 'naive anti drugs lessons' (class's) in school's....do you have children and have you seen/heard the 'drug class's' they already have in school's? As with their sex speech's "just say no", yeah, that'll keep a lot of kids off drugs and unsafe sex. Or did that work for you?
Have you seen a person before they started drugs? Than even just 6 mths. later? (especially with crack and meth). teens are vain buddy....show them that pretty girl before than with bad teeth, scrawny, and 'picking' sores a year later. I have a friend that has been on heroin near 30 years, does his couple shots a day and functions and looks 'normal', look at someone on meth 3 years. I'll match my knowledge of drugs, street life, Re-habs, damages, what they make the cr*p from, any day. Does your opinion come from any experience out there? And I don't mean just personal use.
And last, but not least......comparing 'ziggies' to heroin......do your research bud, it is scientifically proven to be as addictive and as hard to quit as heroin. And my ‘comparison’ was…..”amazing I could do heroin and walk away, but not nicotine’. WELL AWARE of effects of heroin addiction versus cigs. In fact over all, cigs are probably more harmful in long time use-to the body! So what WAS that about?
Personally, your suggestion would be…….not try to teach them the hard facts in school? Not try to help? Getting ANYONE ‘help’ in the 1st few mths. Of drug use (again,,especially crack/meth in my RESEARCH AND EXPIERIENCE), greatly increase’s their chance of beating it, versus doing nothing and waiting until they are full blown, stealing, begging, selling themselves and ‘in’ the street scene.
If you have experience to base your comments on, feel free, but you sound like many of the parents that sit home and say ‘oh, nothing we can do, they’ll have to learn on their own”, 16, 17, 18 year olds being so mature and sensible you know!
Thanks for the opinion, think I'll pass :} Enough people saving the whales, think I'll stick with OUR young in the world!
LL
I am anything but naive dear and ’naïve’ would have never came out alive in some things I have done/do. And please read my previous post where I said..."unfortunately some are unsaveable", which I have seen often. That, however, does NOT mean a mother should stop trying to help her son or a sister should stop trying to help a brother. Hand them $, enable them, NO, keep trying to help, yes. Doing NOTHING is what....admirable tough love? And for the record, how many have you gotten into treatment, with success, that 'didn't want to be saved'???
Myself, 4 that I drug out of the house's and took there. 3 out of 4 are still clean. And several that did ADMIT to wanting help. Also, when was the last time you knew ANY addict that wanted to stay an addict? Even the hardest core addict dreams of life without it!
As for the 'naive anti drugs lessons' (class's) in school's....do you have children and have you seen/heard the 'drug class's' they already have in school's? As with their sex speech's "just say no", yeah, that'll keep a lot of kids off drugs and unsafe sex. Or did that work for you?
Have you seen a person before they started drugs? Than even just 6 mths. later? (especially with crack and meth). teens are vain buddy....show them that pretty girl before than with bad teeth, scrawny, and 'picking' sores a year later. I have a friend that has been on heroin near 30 years, does his couple shots a day and functions and looks 'normal', look at someone on meth 3 years. I'll match my knowledge of drugs, street life, Re-habs, damages, what they make the cr*p from, any day. Does your opinion come from any experience out there? And I don't mean just personal use.
And last, but not least......comparing 'ziggies' to heroin......do your research bud, it is scientifically proven to be as addictive and as hard to quit as heroin. And my ‘comparison’ was…..”amazing I could do heroin and walk away, but not nicotine’. WELL AWARE of effects of heroin addiction versus cigs. In fact over all, cigs are probably more harmful in long time use-to the body! So what WAS that about?
Personally, your suggestion would be…….not try to teach them the hard facts in school? Not try to help? Getting ANYONE ‘help’ in the 1st few mths. Of drug use (again,,especially crack/meth in my RESEARCH AND EXPIERIENCE), greatly increase’s their chance of beating it, versus doing nothing and waiting until they are full blown, stealing, begging, selling themselves and ‘in’ the street scene.
If you have experience to base your comments on, feel free, but you sound like many of the parents that sit home and say ‘oh, nothing we can do, they’ll have to learn on their own”, 16, 17, 18 year olds being so mature and sensible you know!
Thanks for the opinion, think I'll pass :} Enough people saving the whales, think I'll stick with OUR young in the world!
LL
about your vision of the world - you should realize that somebody who doesn't want to be helped won't hear you and your naive talking about antidruglessons in school and such - i see you like Don Quichotte against the windmills - u so naive,hihi - but nevertheless i respect your actions,whatever the success of it! please don't compare your "ziggies" to heroin - its a bit annoying...save the wales,lol
your a funny lady I like you a lot! :)
Tarblockers huh? I'd like to get them for me and my mother. I can't believe that we could so stupidly be killing ourselves but still I just can't stop. Now, my kids are both smoking and I beg them and tell them in a few years it will be TOO HARD to stop quit now! but of course they are already addicted. My son was the most ANTI-smoking person on the planet and he started. My daughter has COPD and has almost died several times from her asthma. Well she finally started to get a little older (she's 19) and outgrow some of it (as girls get older they produce more theopholine or some drug and it was helping) but then SHE started smoking when I let her go live with her dad for a few months! I couldn't BELIEVE IT someone with NO lung capacity at ALL smoking and he was buying them for her! Well by the time I got her back it was just too late.
I sure don't deserve the mother of the year award and it breaks my heart so much.
so I have another cig and a piece of Dove dark chocolate and go on with life.
Waaaa.
Boy am I a whiner today!!!!!!!!!!
Tarblockers huh? I'd like to get them for me and my mother. I can't believe that we could so stupidly be killing ourselves but still I just can't stop. Now, my kids are both smoking and I beg them and tell them in a few years it will be TOO HARD to stop quit now! but of course they are already addicted. My son was the most ANTI-smoking person on the planet and he started. My daughter has COPD and has almost died several times from her asthma. Well she finally started to get a little older (she's 19) and outgrow some of it (as girls get older they produce more theopholine or some drug and it was helping) but then SHE started smoking when I let her go live with her dad for a few months! I couldn't BELIEVE IT someone with NO lung capacity at ALL smoking and he was buying them for her! Well by the time I got her back it was just too late.
I sure don't deserve the mother of the year award and it breaks my heart so much.
so I have another cig and a piece of Dove dark chocolate and go on with life.
Waaaa.
Boy am I a whiner today!!!!!!!!!!
NYgirl...yep....HORRIBLE! As I have the Riba cough terribly, and sucking down the cigs:{
You need to get TARBLOCKERS filters! At least they take a lot of the cr*p out. You should see the filter after 4-5 cigs! Get the real ones tho, go online. In a red box. If you can't find them I'll be happy to mail you some. Once you are used to them, you can't smoke without and only takes a day or 2 to be used to them. Even with ultra lights, which I use also. I know they say that doesn't matter, but if I light up a 'full flavor' cig, I gag, it hurts!
Susan400.....ONLY sweets I eat, Breyers chocolate chip and CHOCOLATE!
Put a cig, a bar of chocolate and a man and me stranded .....and I can only pick one.......Well, the the mans for sure leaving :} (specially on tx!)
Forseegood, my girlfriend that passed away last year, only 40 and BECAUSE of no pap test for 10 years (so sad, senseless) was a genious, brain, over the top IQ but she LOVED those trashy mags!
Only with her brain, she could read-FULLY-10 an hour so I always had them here and of course, I now GOTTA know who's doing who and that they DO have 'look like sh*t ' days also :}
Without $$, they'd be fugly!!
And I find myself sneaking them into the shopping cart under to TP :}
Have a feel good day......(me too! me too!...posting later!)
LL
LL
You need to get TARBLOCKERS filters! At least they take a lot of the cr*p out. You should see the filter after 4-5 cigs! Get the real ones tho, go online. In a red box. If you can't find them I'll be happy to mail you some. Once you are used to them, you can't smoke without and only takes a day or 2 to be used to them. Even with ultra lights, which I use also. I know they say that doesn't matter, but if I light up a 'full flavor' cig, I gag, it hurts!
Susan400.....ONLY sweets I eat, Breyers chocolate chip and CHOCOLATE!
Put a cig, a bar of chocolate and a man and me stranded .....and I can only pick one.......Well, the the mans for sure leaving :} (specially on tx!)
Forseegood, my girlfriend that passed away last year, only 40 and BECAUSE of no pap test for 10 years (so sad, senseless) was a genious, brain, over the top IQ but she LOVED those trashy mags!
Only with her brain, she could read-FULLY-10 an hour so I always had them here and of course, I now GOTTA know who's doing who and that they DO have 'look like sh*t ' days also :}
Without $$, they'd be fugly!!
And I find myself sneaking them into the shopping cart under to TP :}
Have a feel good day......(me too! me too!...posting later!)
LL
LL
I agree, we do all have our vices...a big one of mine is trashy magazines, I used to be so holy about them too, I'd never read those! Now I'm buying 3 of them in line at Rite-aid...don't care who gives me dirty looks either...sometimes when I'm nervous about things, I read them and laugh about all these things that are happening to the stars, knowing much of it is made up anyway...and it's always good to know that movie stars have cellluite too...lol....I'M EVIL!!!!
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