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Honest Answers, No BS! LONG post!
:} Okay the topic is this......how many really do other med's to help get thru the symptoms of Hep and the sides of tx?
Please bare in mind in this long story, that I am also a dress up, ‘normal’ business woman that most would be in shock if they saw me when doing this!
As most here awhile have probably heard from me a time or two.....I am VERY 'anti drug' -abuse of prescribed drugs, street drugs’ and active in fighting the worst 'new' threats, crack and the again popular meth, grabbing our young by the b*alls! (and ‘old’) People get 'hooked' very often on that 1st hit with those. I have literally 'bought' 'kids' from dealers, give them a picture, they set them up and if I get them, in hand, they get the money. We all know-most of us- that a crack head will sell their mom for a hit! I have a few I ‘use’ for this and have gotten who I am looking for every time. Our understanding is, you help me, I shut up on you! I have a ‘Christian drug counselor’ who has given my name,# to parents to help find their kid. I have gotten the call at 4:00 am and gone into 'crack town' alone to get them, have jumped thru the back of a car window, put a knife to the scumbags throat and drug the kid out! I have chased crack dealers with an axe handle! (Dangerous and extreme yes, but that one was a loved family member drug into it by an older, using guy that made a habit of getting 'kids' hooked to use their $$! That 'man' is now in prison 3 years, poor thing! )With a scar on his arm from me! That 'kid' is, 2 years later, drug free, into the arts and back to being a GQ , handsome, going somewhere young man that he was. It is heartbreaking the ‘kids’ I would see at those place’s. Cops ‘overlook’ me and actually respect what I do, tho have made the speech I may get hurt, etc. And as extreme as my methods are, I am proud to say only one I couldn't 'save', yet he did go back to the re-hab later and is now clean. I am one crazy woman. (need to add....I have a bit of biker, and some tough guys back up and our local police dept. actually goes 'in' with me at times 'off the record' , not arresting anyone, just helping me get who I came for!) All is also out of my pocket. I have lived in that world, briefly, 32 years ago, and will do anything I can to get someone out of it. (the success rate of quitting crack, for good, is 5%!! Once 'hooked') I went into all that as.....am not, nor ever been ashamed of how we believe I got Hep C, is when I 'ran away' at 16 yrs. old and 'lived in the streets' (a virgin, no less!!) and got with people and tried all kinds of drugs, had done heroin before loosing my virginity! Within 2 years, by the grace of God.....a 'street guy' that cared took me back to Fla., left me with friends and snuck out in the night, of which I had seen so much I knew I did not want that life. I saw terrible things and many are amazed I never got hurt and ‘walked’ away so easily. I than became anti-anti-anti. Went on to be a good mother of 3 and have a great life. I now use my disease in my 'talks' with young people to say "SEE....look what stupid young mistakes can do! ALL these years later'. My plan, was working on before dx, so now after tx. Is to get a few acre’s and make an ‘animal rescue, kid’s in trouble come take care of them’ counseling type ranch. It’d be pretty hypocritical if I became addicted to med’s thru tx and hep to do this! LOL.
That all said.......I also developed a bit of a phobia for all drugs, even ‘good, needed’ med’s. Took NOTHING. (tx has been a ‘conquer the phobia’ for me!) Several years ago encountered 'panic attacks'?? Tough, no fear woman kicked to the curb. My dr., knowing I never took med's...said 'be a good girl and JUST try these"..... xanax, lowest dose and wouldn't do AD's. With them and a LOT of mental training, beat those and long gone from my daily life. I do them occasionally to sleep and always made sure I was careful not to do daily, get addicted, etc. THAN came hep symptoms, terrible aches, pains and could not do any of my very active jobs well, he gave me Vicoprofen. Again, very careful with them and suffer most days as opposed to doing daily. NOW..…(babble, babble.-sorry!).....I could not have gotten thru hep symptoms, dx, and now tx without doing those 2 pill's on the really bad days and 1st shot day Dr. even gave me Valium and said do the night before and do an hour before app. I read and hear a lot here on suffering and comments on some med's hurt the liver, etc. but my Hep Dr. has clearly told me the amounts I can safely do (and don't even do that much). SOOOOO.....Of course not anyone that is a recovering addict as per worries of a relapse, but how many are actually doing pain med’s or calming med's thru this? My sons and man had to fight with me to actually use them a bit more rather than suffer "YOU (knowing me) will NOT get addicted, stop suffering!” A small part of me still worries that I may have to do some of them from now on, yet I also feel...WHY suffer if they can help? So folks…..how many really do need other med’s to help get thru this?
Thanks for listening to my ‘out there’ long babbling post :}, to anyone who didn’t give up and quit reading 10 minutes ago :}
LL
Please bare in mind in this long story, that I am also a dress up, ‘normal’ business woman that most would be in shock if they saw me when doing this!
As most here awhile have probably heard from me a time or two.....I am VERY 'anti drug' -abuse of prescribed drugs, street drugs’ and active in fighting the worst 'new' threats, crack and the again popular meth, grabbing our young by the b*alls! (and ‘old’) People get 'hooked' very often on that 1st hit with those. I have literally 'bought' 'kids' from dealers, give them a picture, they set them up and if I get them, in hand, they get the money. We all know-most of us- that a crack head will sell their mom for a hit! I have a few I ‘use’ for this and have gotten who I am looking for every time. Our understanding is, you help me, I shut up on you! I have a ‘Christian drug counselor’ who has given my name,# to parents to help find their kid. I have gotten the call at 4:00 am and gone into 'crack town' alone to get them, have jumped thru the back of a car window, put a knife to the scumbags throat and drug the kid out! I have chased crack dealers with an axe handle! (Dangerous and extreme yes, but that one was a loved family member drug into it by an older, using guy that made a habit of getting 'kids' hooked to use their $$! That 'man' is now in prison 3 years, poor thing! )With a scar on his arm from me! That 'kid' is, 2 years later, drug free, into the arts and back to being a GQ , handsome, going somewhere young man that he was. It is heartbreaking the ‘kids’ I would see at those place’s. Cops ‘overlook’ me and actually respect what I do, tho have made the speech I may get hurt, etc. And as extreme as my methods are, I am proud to say only one I couldn't 'save', yet he did go back to the re-hab later and is now clean. I am one crazy woman. (need to add....I have a bit of biker, and some tough guys back up and our local police dept. actually goes 'in' with me at times 'off the record' , not arresting anyone, just helping me get who I came for!) All is also out of my pocket. I have lived in that world, briefly, 32 years ago, and will do anything I can to get someone out of it. (the success rate of quitting crack, for good, is 5%!! Once 'hooked') I went into all that as.....am not, nor ever been ashamed of how we believe I got Hep C, is when I 'ran away' at 16 yrs. old and 'lived in the streets' (a virgin, no less!!) and got with people and tried all kinds of drugs, had done heroin before loosing my virginity! Within 2 years, by the grace of God.....a 'street guy' that cared took me back to Fla., left me with friends and snuck out in the night, of which I had seen so much I knew I did not want that life. I saw terrible things and many are amazed I never got hurt and ‘walked’ away so easily. I than became anti-anti-anti. Went on to be a good mother of 3 and have a great life. I now use my disease in my 'talks' with young people to say "SEE....look what stupid young mistakes can do! ALL these years later'. My plan, was working on before dx, so now after tx. Is to get a few acre’s and make an ‘animal rescue, kid’s in trouble come take care of them’ counseling type ranch. It’d be pretty hypocritical if I became addicted to med’s thru tx and hep to do this! LOL.
That all said.......I also developed a bit of a phobia for all drugs, even ‘good, needed’ med’s. Took NOTHING. (tx has been a ‘conquer the phobia’ for me!) Several years ago encountered 'panic attacks'?? Tough, no fear woman kicked to the curb. My dr., knowing I never took med's...said 'be a good girl and JUST try these"..... xanax, lowest dose and wouldn't do AD's. With them and a LOT of mental training, beat those and long gone from my daily life. I do them occasionally to sleep and always made sure I was careful not to do daily, get addicted, etc. THAN came hep symptoms, terrible aches, pains and could not do any of my very active jobs well, he gave me Vicoprofen. Again, very careful with them and suffer most days as opposed to doing daily. NOW..…(babble, babble.-sorry!).....I could not have gotten thru hep symptoms, dx, and now tx without doing those 2 pill's on the really bad days and 1st shot day Dr. even gave me Valium and said do the night before and do an hour before app. I read and hear a lot here on suffering and comments on some med's hurt the liver, etc. but my Hep Dr. has clearly told me the amounts I can safely do (and don't even do that much). SOOOOO.....Of course not anyone that is a recovering addict as per worries of a relapse, but how many are actually doing pain med’s or calming med's thru this? My sons and man had to fight with me to actually use them a bit more rather than suffer "YOU (knowing me) will NOT get addicted, stop suffering!” A small part of me still worries that I may have to do some of them from now on, yet I also feel...WHY suffer if they can help? So folks…..how many really do need other med’s to help get thru this?
Thanks for listening to my ‘out there’ long babbling post :}, to anyone who didn’t give up and quit reading 10 minutes ago :}
LL
PS don't worry - we got that you were never addicted to anything - we addicts tend to put everybody in our pool together ;)
I'm addicted to those da*n cigs too. No matter WHAT I do.........ah they've got me by the tail. The monkey on my back. That, by far, is one of the hardest things in the world to control....ugh. Hate those suckers but love them too.
Geeeez, what a story! good on you for all the work you do, we could exchange tales for sure...I was with a radical animal rights group and we used to steal away animals that were being tortured (we'd have to have evidence, check it out, warn people to stop, and only on seeing the torture go on - after our warnings - we'd act....
these animals fell through the cracks of animal control, so we were the only chance they had) crawling into psycho back yards and untying animals, running away with them in tote bags and cat carriers, etc or leashes at 5 in the morning, thinking we might be shot or whatever...but we saved lots of tortured animals...it got too nerve racking, so I got out of that sort of animal rescue...I was also a volunteer drug and alcohol counselor for a bit...so wow, don't have the hide you have, not by a long shot, but I sure can relate to what you do...I hope you get the help you need and deserve...best to you....
these animals fell through the cracks of animal control, so we were the only chance they had) crawling into psycho back yards and untying animals, running away with them in tote bags and cat carriers, etc or leashes at 5 in the morning, thinking we might be shot or whatever...but we saved lots of tortured animals...it got too nerve racking, so I got out of that sort of animal rescue...I was also a volunteer drug and alcohol counselor for a bit...so wow, don't have the hide you have, not by a long shot, but I sure can relate to what you do...I hope you get the help you need and deserve...best to you....
Just a 'laugh' note on the 'non street smart (sorta dumb..) parents. You have to teach them!
" Oh, he said he needed $150.00 for a field trip at school and he hasn't come back for 2 days". Or the sweet, sweet mom....her son fighting crack...." We had his birthday party and he went to the store and hasn't come home"....."well, what did you give him for his birthday"....."oh, $200.!"
NO, NO, NO, honey, you don't give the kid CASH at ANY time" ! "OH, we never thought of that."
(of course they also hadn't thought on her check book that was in thier car that he 'borrowed'.
Gotta love 'em, but teach them TOO.
Nite, LL
" Oh, he said he needed $150.00 for a field trip at school and he hasn't come back for 2 days". Or the sweet, sweet mom....her son fighting crack...." We had his birthday party and he went to the store and hasn't come home"....."well, what did you give him for his birthday"....."oh, $200.!"
NO, NO, NO, honey, you don't give the kid CASH at ANY time" ! "OH, we never thought of that."
(of course they also hadn't thought on her check book that was in thier car that he 'borrowed'.
Gotta love 'em, but teach them TOO.
Nite, LL
Thanks for you thoughts. Believe me, learning fast to use the med's as this is a B*TCH! (as I am starting to be.LOL)
Loved Tuefs post too as he really got what I was saying/do. My sons....even at 23, 24 & 30 ...they know I am flies on sh*t if they start down any bad road at ANY age and momma dosn't play fair :}They have turned out much like me, in that they tend to 'watch over' partying friends, try to help also. I can't count how many other kids 'grew up' at my house or how many I chased after, watched over while their parents had NO idea where they were or just let them run with that 'oh, they'll grow out of it' attitude! (AKA....too d*m lazy and lack of concern to get up and DO something about it!) Had 2 legal 'foster kids' also, from parents that just didn't care. Nothing erks me more than a parent who is NOT a parent! And nothing please's me more than a naive, non street smart (dumb type :) parent that comes asking me to help find thier kid! At least they WANT to help. Just don't know how any parent can sleep with a young kid out on the streets doing drugs. When it was one of mine, I never stopped looking and found him everytime. WHERE would he be had I not? (he wasn't a street smart kid! they'd have eaten him alive).
I better shut up or it'll get long again :}
Feel good, LL
Loved Tuefs post too as he really got what I was saying/do. My sons....even at 23, 24 & 30 ...they know I am flies on sh*t if they start down any bad road at ANY age and momma dosn't play fair :}They have turned out much like me, in that they tend to 'watch over' partying friends, try to help also. I can't count how many other kids 'grew up' at my house or how many I chased after, watched over while their parents had NO idea where they were or just let them run with that 'oh, they'll grow out of it' attitude! (AKA....too d*m lazy and lack of concern to get up and DO something about it!) Had 2 legal 'foster kids' also, from parents that just didn't care. Nothing erks me more than a parent who is NOT a parent! And nothing please's me more than a naive, non street smart (dumb type :) parent that comes asking me to help find thier kid! At least they WANT to help. Just don't know how any parent can sleep with a young kid out on the streets doing drugs. When it was one of mine, I never stopped looking and found him everytime. WHERE would he be had I not? (he wasn't a street smart kid! they'd have eaten him alive).
I better shut up or it'll get long again :}
Feel good, LL
My brother is in recovery and has been clean for 11 years. However, he takes zanax at night and sometimes during the day. It helps him to sleep, and calms his nerves at times when he used to drink and not stop. Addiction runs high (no pun intended) on both sides of our families.
I take A/D's and had to try a few to find one that worked. I am much happier on a/d's and the people who have to live with me are also:)
I did take pain meds on some shot weekends, I never throw away pain meds when they're prescribed, and if I needed something to help with the muscle aches, pain and fever, I took it. I felt that what ever could get me through tx was ok as long as I used it conservatively. I quit taking ambien because it's too strong for me and I had the weird side of eating anything in sight while I could still stand.
I loved Teuf's comments about small towns and kids using drugs. I think many parents turn a blind eye hoping that it will go away by itself and it's a normal part of growing up. Often they want their kids to be happy or popular and still able to play sports. That's the way it is here many times. I mean there are always kids who use and no one notices because they don't have an involved family. That's sad, but when there are many kid's with an involved parent who just won't set limits.
Enough of my soap box.....
Good luck with this tx. I know many strong people suffered a lot without meds, but I did what I could to get through. Oddly enough my worst side was the itching. Nothing relieved it till I got a steroid shot post tx.
Take care,
hugs,
Bug
I take A/D's and had to try a few to find one that worked. I am much happier on a/d's and the people who have to live with me are also:)
I did take pain meds on some shot weekends, I never throw away pain meds when they're prescribed, and if I needed something to help with the muscle aches, pain and fever, I took it. I felt that what ever could get me through tx was ok as long as I used it conservatively. I quit taking ambien because it's too strong for me and I had the weird side of eating anything in sight while I could still stand.
I loved Teuf's comments about small towns and kids using drugs. I think many parents turn a blind eye hoping that it will go away by itself and it's a normal part of growing up. Often they want their kids to be happy or popular and still able to play sports. That's the way it is here many times. I mean there are always kids who use and no one notices because they don't have an involved family. That's sad, but when there are many kid's with an involved parent who just won't set limits.
Enough of my soap box.....
Good luck with this tx. I know many strong people suffered a lot without meds, but I did what I could to get through. Oddly enough my worst side was the itching. Nothing relieved it till I got a steroid shot post tx.
Take care,
hugs,
Bug
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