Ne body on here than can answer this question (maybe if u work in the medical field)

[youngdude421]

i am currently waiting to be able to leave my job and than i am on my way to detox (which is 3 hours away by my mothers house) than im going to a 90 day rehab in the country(which is a 6 hour drive from detox)  if i am withdrawing off of heroin and go to the ER and xplain my situation to them and tell the doc how i am going to rehab would they  give me something like methadone or w/e to help with the withdrawals b/c  i am physically sick when i withdraw, i start puking among other symptoms.

[surn]

Iwent to rehab and took the last vicodin I had on the way after detoxing from morphine. They give you meds to help with the symptoms, i.e. valium, robaxin, slleeping pill.
You'll be O.K if you are going into a detox center, they know whay to do.
Don't start up with suboxone or methadone. that is a substitute.

[JDRMinSD]

You've obviously gotten a lot of advice on here, hopefully your questions are all answered.  I just wanted to say that I think wannabe above is right, all ERs are different but no matter what, you're going to have to go through some sh*t.  I only say that so you're ready for it.  Quitting is totally do-able, just not fun.  But well worth it within just a few days to a week of your last dose of everything.  I don't have experience with Methadone or Sub but they seem to get mixed reviews.

Good luck, keep posting.  We may not all know everything or agree on it all but we're all here for similar reasons, not the least of which is to help each other out...

[wannabefree330]

I am sorry i didn't see this post sooner.  I work in an ED and have seen many doctors prescribe medications for w/d.  All ER's and ER doc's are different.  I have seen doctors give meds for anxiety, and really sit down and encourage the patient to getting the help they need.  I've actually even seen one doctor give IV medication to a guy who was in BAAAD w/d.  It eased his symptoms enough where he could concentrate, but not enough to get him high.  My point is don't assume all doctors out there will turn you away because you are an addict.  There are many who want to see you beat this disease.

[roadrunner940]

i use to work as a nurse in the drug alcohol rehab center. we use to take care of heroin addicts. we gave them clonidine to lower ther blood pressure, however to watch these patients go thru withdrawal was terrible. they were miserable.they did get thru the withdrawals after 5-7 days but it was a terrible site to see. anyway, my point is there should be a way to slowly get people off the opiates if they want. it could be tapered in a methodical way, and they can also give you medicines to make you more comfortable. there is no reason for people to suffer like i saw them go thru.it was an alful experience to watch this going on while i was there running the program. there is a better method if a person really wants to get off opiates.that method is barbarick.there is a method that does fast detox, you can look on line to do this. it is costly.i know if you are a veteren you could qualify for this rapid detox. they will give you other medicines to get you thru this alful time. let me know if this helps. i have seen people going thru this withdrawal. i would not wish this on anyone.

[extrmeski]

I had seizures w/ding from Fentanyl patches, so there are situations where opiates w/d are very harmful indeed and can cause a fatal reaction.  Especially in the quantities that some of the people take that I've read.

[LB5060]

Also, I agree with those that are saying that opiate wd can cause some serious mental issues, including suicide. You seriously want to die rather than go through that **** and that is why it is so hard to get off of....you know just a few pills can completely change your mind and stop they physical stuff so you are right back where you started....feeding your addiction.

I was in the ER two weeks ago and was listing my meds and they did not have any idea what Suboxone was! I had to explain to both my doctor and nurse what it was and why I couldn't have any pain meds! Unbelievable!

[LB5060]

My only advice is Suboxone! It saved my life! Send me a post if you want to know my story and advice.

[Soon2BMrsTurner]

Opiate WD can harm people. Im not going to sit here and play 5th gradw with you but do some homework because it has hurt people and I could give a **** if ultram is concidered an opiate , I would rather WD off of anything but that because its hell. and Ultram causes Seizures go read about it and then come back

[kittykat58]

ultram is not an opiate. we're talking about opiate wd. and sorry -- if you're talking purely physical wds from opiates -- wd symptoms from opiates are NOT FATAL. look it up. opiate wd does not CAUSE seizures -- only wds from alcohol, benzos, barbituites cause seizures. I don't want to argue, it is just a fact.

[SableZen]

Little advice if you go to the ER: Don't go in complaining of withdrawal. Go in complaining of your symptoms. They usually won't hesitate to treat you symptomatically as needed for things like nausea and anxiety. Although this means you won't receive a narcotic (especially nothing like methadone), you should be made more comfortable which is the point.

My advice though would be to talk with your regular doctor and avoid the ER though if you are intent on trying to get something to help with the trip.

[Soon2BMrsTurner]

Kitty ,
Wait2long is very correct, It can be fatal. I am on ultram and was told by my doctor that to be safe he wants me to taper over four months. I know for a fact that it can harm people and its not just feeling like **** or a little ache here and there. Its hell and not something to be taken lightly. Please dont tell people that they cant have serious problems from opiate Wd because they can and its false info. PLease take the time to read on here of the people that have had serious health problems happen because of Opiate WD

[wait2long]

i know people who have had seizures from trying to get off opiates, 2 were on this very forum,....opiate withdrawals most certainly CAN be dangerous....
how many people do you know that have committed suicide because they couldnt get off opiates?  depression from ANY withdrawals CAN be deadly....

ask Savas or poetrygirl...

withdrawals can be deadly, depression from withdrawals can be deadly...

[youngdude421]

thanks for replying i dont want to go on methadone long term i just thought sumthin like that or suboxomne for a few days would make the hell im gona go through a little less hellish lol

[HenryS354]

Hey man,

I am a second year medical student taking a break and have been working in the medical field for 8 years.

If you go into the ER you will not be given methadone, which is a good thing as that stuff is VILE and will make your problems a lot worse.  I was on methadone for 5 years at 500+ mgs daily.  Not fun.

What they will give you is possibly some ambien for sleep, or some other Benzo.  Clonidine will also be given in a patch form or pills.  ER docs are legally allowed to prescribe THREE days worth of suboxone to get you through a few days ONLY if there is a Certified Suboxone Doc on shift in the ER that night.

Hope this helps.
Henry

[kittykat58]

W/Ds from alcohol, benzos, and barbituites can be fatal, but not from opiates.

[wait2long]

you CAN get help from an ER, limited help like clonidine, a few benzos...but you can only get methadone from a clinic or for legit pain issues prescribed by your doctor. i would avoid methadone like the plague though, been there done that - NOT FUN. heroin is easier and quicker to get off than methadone...trust me on that one.
your best bet is to just start the withdrawal process once your admitted to your rehab...

and withdrawals CAN be deadly...high blood pressure is a main symptom of WD's, and high blood pressure CAN be deadly.   clonidine was a lifesaver for me...
best of luck to you..

[youngdude421]

holy caps i know someone that went to a crisis center at a hospital and they sent him home with  clonodine patch when he was withdrawing

[TrayCee]

NO EMERGENCY ROOM WILL GIVE YOU ANYTHING FOR WITHDRAWLS

[worried878]

i dont see the blunt or rude comment either....an ER/being a nurse/will not get u ready for the ride by giving u narcotics..i know this for a fact
...they will get in trouble for doing that and i am not saying u wont find one that will dose u up before ur 3 hour drive but i seriously doubt it....or is it 6 hours ?  i had trouble discerning this.....u would probabaly be better off using ur doc before the trip if u can..and be ready to be a bit uncomfortable because detox just is...no way to make it totally pain free....u r on ur way to freedom so be excited and that may keep u high for the ride...be positive and dont be afraid of the physical wds if ur long term plan is to be clean...we are talking the easy part here in the scheme of things....mental brain power ...that is the battle......worrying so extensively about withdrawls on a drive to freedom is not even reaistic...if freedom and being clean is ur long term goal

[kittykat58]

(I think they delete what may be seen as abusive comments, esp if someone reports it -- maybe that's why the original comment is not there).

anyway, I don't reveal my medical training here but I know pretty much for a fact that EDs do not treat addicts in W/D -- they def don't give methadone and I doubt they would prescribe anything for W/Ds b/c W/D from heroin is not life threatening. EDs are only legaly required (and mandated) to treat that which threatens life and limb -- they would be so overrun with addicts if they could treat people w/ding that they wouldn't be able to get the ppl with chest pain in.

W/D ***** and is horrible and uncomfortable but it is not life-threatening, and it's just something you have to grit your teeth and get through, or breathe through, or walk through, or talk through, or stay-quiet-and-curled-up-in-a-ball-through -- whatever works for you (sometimes a combination of all of the above).

hang in there. I am on day one after tapering pretty aggressively (man did that suck) off of percs and oxys, and I have spent the day 1) reading 2) walking around in a fog 3) attempting to go for a swim but the pool was closed 4) grocery shopping (in a fog) and now I'm lying on the couch sipping tea and eating watermelon while my daughter watches a movie. I told hubby what I was going to be facing and he is behind me (he's cooking dinner for us now).

try to be straight with those that love you and ask for help -- you need to just let yourself kind of sleepwalk through this first day or two, don't expect too much of yourself and just know that you WILL get through this, even if it *****.

and just remember -- you are taking those first steps to real FREEDOM -- and you never have to feel this way again!!!

[youngdude421]

i must have missed something b/c i dont see any blunt or rude or w/e u wanna call it response from johnkelly there must be sumthin up with my internet or sumthin the first reponse i see is when suzie was sayin sumthin was rude but if somebody was bein an ******* i thank anybody that backs me up. I really dont have time to care about what anyone else thinks i saw sumthin was mentioned about name calling (like i said i must not have gotten w/e questionable response u guys are talking about) but if someone is calling ppl names on this forum its realy unfortuanate, and that person really needs to take a good look in the mirror and obviously dosent have a clue and proly has no business talking to ne one here (whoever it is)we arent children. Ive been taking nothing but personal responsibility since i decided its time  to change my life and as far as a chemistry game w/o knowing the consequences.... ive known all the prizes that game gives out for a long time if ne body thinks im some nieve kid just b/c im young there just mistaken(nothing more or less). Im far from a novice when it comes to using drugs and knowing what goes along with it and its not like i just found out what goes along with it. Feel free to re-post this "blunt" or "rude" response i dont even know who posted it and i might just get a laugh out of it. But if there is someone on this forum with something blunt to say to me thats fine im a big boy just dont think you even come close to having the right to judge me and if "name calling" is involved ur just making urself look childish if thats ur thing im shure everyone on here will get a kick out of ignorance. God bless and good luck to everyone who is struggling with this disease.

[kim715]

I think your point may have come across better minus the name calling.We're here to help those who ask for help not judge them.As an addict I know that when people would come at me with aggression a lot of the valuable things they said got lost and their comments would then fall on deaf ears.This person has reached out to us for help and already has a plan in place to get clean.He sounds,like a lot of us do when we're about to start our detox, a little scared.That doesn't make him less of a man.Perhaps you were not meaning to sound so harsh,but honestly that didn't come across so well......Peace...........Kim

[johnnykelly]

Thats exactly right and that is the reason for detoxes.I wouldnt give a dam,id be comfortable and when i was safely in the medical detox,then start to detox. john

[SuzieeQ]

Yep, you were blunt alright. And by the way 3 hours can be along time in w/d. A good portion of the people entering detox are way high, that's why they are going to detox.