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Day TWO of home detox, what next??

I hear so many different stories about how people feel.  Yesterday I did Klonopin and Clonidine, today I'm not sure what to do.  I've been up and about, (in my jammies!) but muscle weakness and achey today.  I hear stories about day 3 and 4 being worse, but could today be the worst it gets?  I didn't wean much (o.k., not at all, but I flushed 42 1/2 hydros).  What should I expect today and the next 2 days?  Some crazy dreams last night, wow.
I so badly want to be off the hydros, and I now know I can NEVER do them again...


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this was the first time I told anyone, my husband didn't even know until 2 or 3 weeks ago. My husband is also my doctor, wrote my scripts, just didn't know I abused them until I finally admitted what I had done this last time.  I had to admit, because I ate 120 10 mg. hydros in 2 weeks and knew I was in trouble.  
I am dealing with as I did stopping smoking in 1998.  I can NEVER touch one again.  I can NEVER have any in the house, and I am suffering out loud!!!  I actually admitted to my Dad and my best friend back in Michigan yesterday, they had no idea.  And this site is incredible.
I will never put my husband in the position I put him in a few weeks ago. He refilled my script so he could help me taper.  It killed me to see his sweet face do that for me.  I felt awful. He tried to help me taper, he would leave out a dose before he left for work and hide the bottle.  I was going thru slow w/d just trying to do 4 a day.  It was an awful 2 weeks.  But I found myself digging thru the house looking for where he had hid them, and always found them and took a bunch more.  I would actually look for places where the dust was touched to see where he hid them.  I was pathetic.
Last week I knew I had to stop.  I had no idea how many pills were in the bottle (he was hiding them in the car), but I told him on thursday that my quit date was Saturday.  I flushed the rest Friday night.  He wanted to take some and hide them, 'in case I got into trouble during detox'.  I told him they could absolutely not be anywhere near me.
and here I am.  Day 4.  My last day 4 of w/d.  
And he, as a physician, is watching me, reading some posts here with me, and he is so much more aware of the scripts he writes, and maybe he'll be kinder to one of 'us' when he realizes someone is drug seeking.  He'll think of me and know they are in the dark place, not bad people.
So what will I do to stay off?  Never take one, single hydro again.  And remember my husbands sweet face and how he tells me he's proud of me.  (he still hates when I say I'm a drug addict, he says I was 'dependent')
but I am who I am and now I know.  
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from your post i see you have tried this a couple of times,
what can you do to stay clean once you are detoxed?
your thread topic says "what next?"
its up to you
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I was busy all day preparing for my kid to come back home...you were struggling so bad!  This is the first time i've officially detoxed, I used to just wean myself off quietly and not tell anyone.
Your story is incredible.  You are an inspiration.
ONE DAY AT A TIME.  Please don't think about what will happen, please just get thru the next day.  What are you taking for anxiety?  I have found the clonidine knocks me out, which is good.  Due to what your doc's have been, is there anything you can take for anxiety?
please keep posting.  it's 9:30 p.m here in Cali, so it's probably late for you.  I hope you are resting.  
Take it all in small bits.  Don't think of the big picture.  My husband and I moved to Cali from michigan a few months ago, it was a HUGE undertaking.  We would have talked ourselves out of it.  He had his own practice, we had lived there for 15 years.  But we vowed to acknowledge our goal and take it one piece at a time.  And we had a ton of obstacles, like we were being sabatoged.  But we did it, in small bites.
I look forward to hearing from you tomorrow.
You're not a junkie.  You are clean.  
Kelley
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715482 tn?1286833249
hey kelley how are you doing?  hope ur staying strong.....

Ron
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so i fad a little freak out before but i calmed down i actually ended up taking the colonidine and it definately helped and relaxed me alot...so now i know i can get to tomorrow well i havent taken anything in 36 hours and now im getting ready for the night tomorrow afternoon is 48 hours and so on...

i hope when i get past the wd's i can be strong and get my mind back because the last time around i just dont think i did...when do you realize and stop thinking about the pills after a 2 weeks one month 6 months?  what about post acute withdrawal is that what made me relapse the last time? man this *****  just gotta deal with it it feels better to talk about it.

i wish i can say that i started this habit because a docter prescribed me meds like most of you...but i cant i did this on my own no fault to anyone but myself..

i want to get it through it...finally im ready and feel determined even though my body feels like its dying...

love you all and the best us luck to anyone going through it and god bless anyone whos made it to the other side and stayed there
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wd's are getting hard and im getting cravings and im starting to remember why ive relapsed in the past...if feels like it never gets better even after 2 weeks sober the last time i made it i still felt empty with everything i did, i couldnt meet with friends, couldnt take drives more than 20 mins because i would alwyas need to take my pills...

the aches and wd's i can deal with i just hate that i got high for everything and now when im gonna try to do everything without it it wont feel right...what to people do for that, what do i do in a week or better yet 2 weeks...when can you just go on with life with a tought of a pill or a though that man i cant do this without that pill??

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I know it gets said alot but NEVER is a long time.Dont use just for today.Deal with tomorrow when it gets here.
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this is the last time, the last time i never want to do this again....i already lost my singing career and my personal training business, thank got i still own 2 businesses and im only 25..ive built everything and done everything in my life with my bare hands and with motivation..

heres my story as short as i could make it...unfortunately when i was 18 i started trying every street drug possible and became the man around here in new york started selling weed and then extasy, the coke then i had everything and that was my life i loved it felt like a king, everyone loved me wanted to be around me and noone would mess with me...what a life huh  yeah right even though i sometimes wish i can go back to those days..i was bodybuilding during that time too and was a personal trainer...i went through those 3 years after dropping out of school and started an internet store and training people, i quit my real job so i can just sell...when i was 21, i found my escape from that life, one of my customers gave me a bag full of different prescriptions, he said heres for a change of pace...i took it and when i ate them i was like wow this is only prescriprtion pills, no more hard drugs!  i thought that was the best thing that could have happened to me, well i went on for 3 years building and building my addiction when i lost my gf around that time, wich unfortunately i turned her into a drug addict too :(  thank god shes ok now...after i lost her i started to get into steriods for my bodybuilding addicition, everything in my life is an addiction and the fact that i lost my fear of needles i went and started shooting oxycontin with a buddy of mine...i know it makes me sick to my stomach my gf now cant understand how i could have ever done that and i cant either at times...well after a year of that me and my friend couldnt get anything at all we tried everything...let me tell you though at this point i lost everything i was living basically on the streets i didnt sell anymore and i had no money at all, that year i was shooting the oxys i had no life, we just drove around, did the oxys and went to find the next dose it was the saddest time of my life and during thise time i was taking xanax as well probably for 2 1/2 years at this point...so back to the day that we couldnt get anything, my friend called everyone tried everything we would have paid anything for one little pill well the only thing he could get was herion and thats when he left to go pick it up and i said no and stayed home...i said i need to get help so i admitted myself to a rehab, but hated it and left after a day and just suffered for 2 months at home, the worst pain ive ever felt these withdrawals now dont compare to quitted xanax, oxys, weed, and ciggarettes at the same time...the xanax withdrawals were the worst they lasted for 2 months bad and then by 6 months i didnt have anxiety from little things and was back to normal...i made it through that hell.....

but now heres the other side to that story...i met a girl about 2 months after cleaning up and she loves vicodins...i didnt think that vicodins were gonna be like shooting oxys, dont ask me why because i really knew but didnt want to believe it...plus we both loved it..that girl was the most beautiful girl but man what a mistake...after that i was hooked again and now 5 years later im here...along the way i tried to quit afew times most of the times i couldnt make it through a week....and 8 months ago when i met my gf that im with now i quit and i made it past the wd's and got past 2 full weeks and thats when we had our first date..that night i decided that ill give myself a reward for being so good and also so im not this guy thats depressed and feeling down i wanted to be me...well now ive been back on taking more then ever and nobody knew about it...well i came clean to my family and her and this is where im at now....i lost my life till now and this will be the biggest step of my life and im ready for it finally im done hiding it i came out and talked about it and now i ready to conquer it...

i built a gym and i hope to start going back to personal training on the side...i cant wait till i can workout again, i actually excited to finally not be lazy and actually do it...i lost my singing career but i can always do something about it...i still have all my songs and recorded tracks i never lost my voice i still have it...and thank god i still have my other 3 businesses that i had my brother run during this time and the internet store i got someone taking care of ....im ready to get ron back and live the life i should have lived not this sick life that nobody knows about...people know me, but they dont know this other side and they probably wouldnt believe me if i told them...

i know some of you might look at me as a junky but i made mistakes and went down the wrong path...along the way i still was able to succeed even though i lost alot, but i feel i can still get it back and become me again, i just gotta beat my biggest opstacle...

i wish you all the best hopefully noone goes down my road, but nows my times to get whatever i can back before its too late....good luck!!  and this will be our gift to ourselves for the holidays and for our new years resolution..

_Ron
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have you thought about relaspe prevention? going to na meetings?
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I'm thinking of you ronny. this will be different for you this time with all the support. we can choose to never go thru this again.  I want this to be my very last 3 day.  I hope this is your last w/d time too.  You and I both are kinda bingers...on and off.  
Let's stay off this time
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no im definately withdrawing...you might not have read my original post i actually was addicted to roxicet(oxycodone) 30mg pills anywhere from 270 minumum a day to at 370-400mgs a day i could have gone more for a long time but fought to go past that...i only took the methadone for 3 days to help taper me off the roxicets to make it easier but i decided yesterdays last dose of 10mgs was my last, my body never got addicted to the methadone im withdrawing from the roxicet...10mgs of methadone only masked very little of my withdrawals so thats why i still felt withdrawals while i was on it its been 24 hours since i took that methadone and im starting to really feel the wd's..

thank you lisa, dont worry i know all about that my withdrawal is usually pretty bad unfortunately ive been through this far too many times but relapsed everytime before this.  this time i have support and family and my gf to help me so this time around i got what i didnt have that i needed before...
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You are absolutely right about day two being the worst.... I woke up feeling GREAT, but it went down hill from there.  It got bad... REALLY bad.

Day three, however is much better for me.  I hope it is the same for you.

You are in my thoughts, chica.
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Your w.d is NOT, and I repeat is NOT going to be the same as everyone elses. WHat you hear people describe are their own personal experiences. Doesn't mean this will happen to you. Typically, w.d symptoms are the same. That is why when you look it up, a list is provided of what to expect. However, many things go into determining what kind of w.d you will have. Like how much you use, how long, how you take the pills. Everything varies. And even two people who did the same pill, same lenght, same way..even their w.d will be different because not everyone will react the exact same way.

You are doing great and things will start to look up soon. So just get through it...

:Lisa
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maybe i am not understanding, but you felt Wd after taking 10mgs of methadone?  normally when i took methadone it would take about 2-3 hours for the effects of it to kick in.  and when i decided it was time to quit i thought for the first 2 days that i was in the clear becasue the Wd did not start until day 3.  methadone is VERY slow to metabolize.  it hangs around for a long time.

Kova
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oh and by the way i had crazy dreams too..lol    the times that i have had wd's i have had either crazy dreams or nightmares so the crazy dreams arent too bad ... :)
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thanks for your replies...i made it today lastnight started getting tough i felt wd's earlier in the day about 4 hours after my last dose of 10mg methadone and i couldnt sleep so at around 2 i took my first piece of klonopin .25mg (1/4 pill) because with the anxiety i had i wouldnt be able to sleep and then i took melatonin 3mg and i fell asleep within the hour i woke up twice but actually fell back asleep for another 7 hours...so tonight wasnt bad at all...

now i know as the day goes on the wd's will come on harder...thats ok im used to them by now with all the times ive felt it, unfortunately...im not doing this ever again, i feel better that i know i actually have support this time, from my family and even on this message board... good luck to everyone going through this!   ill keep others posted on my progress for future reference....

breakfast and multivitamin coming in afew minutes...no meds unless i really need them...
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Hey Ronnie 3 Congrats on your decision to begin Tomorrow (which is now actually today) The best tmie to start is now and with the support of other on this site and your positive attitude You can do this...

My wife must think I'm crazy to be typing in the middle of the night. but this forum has taken away the feeling of going throught this alone....the support of others on this forum has me fell like i can do it....( 17 days)


Good luck and we will be checking in on you so please continue to post with your progress...

Jambo


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excellent decision on starting!  I have low blood pressure to begin with, 95 over 60, but i've taken 2 doses of the clonidine, once yesterday, once earlier today.  I don't know what it's supposed to do, but i was half way thru attempting to make my bed and said screw it, laid down and woke up 2 hrs. later.  I had my hubby check my blood pressure, it was o.k., so that's good.  I did feel like it helped with the body aches.
I took the Klonopin last night, slept like a rock, weird dreams.  I'm going to do that again tonight and hope tomorrow is a better day.
It's the complete and total lack of energy.  Just looking up the stairs and thinking of walking up them.  And I REALLY need a shower, so i'm going to use up the last of my energy and take one.  
For me, i'm hoping this suffering reminds me.  I binge, and the last 2 1/2 months were bad.  I've been off them for a year or more and started over, why?  Grrrrrrrr.
Keep posting, we'll keep track of each other.
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ive decided not to take anything tomorrow thanks to worried878 and just deal with it head on..im ready for this..

i would suggest to try out the thomas recipe as i will also to help with the wd's and i also got klonopin(anxiety),colonidine(wd's & blood pressure),baclofen(muslce relaxer) given to me by my doc to help with the wd's...i have never used colonidine and am scared too still because the whole blood pressure drop thing..

cant wait to be on the other side...i will be on the boards as well during this time and maybe we can help eachother and yes it does help when people understand what we are feeling and going through..

and dont worry you wont have the wd's much longer...i made it through before unfortunately i relapsed but after the 4th day i woke up and the next day the wd's drop tremendously i was shocked and then more and more as the next few days followed by day 7 i hardly felt anything and already felt like a new person by day 10 i was through the acute wd's.  after 2 weeks i felt like a different person and thats when i made the biggest mistake after going through the torture i decided that i could take a little in celebration of my accomplishments and that night i relapse and here i am again, but this time with support from my family and now ex girlfriend =\ ...but before i didnt and i was hiding what i was going through....

your almost there..and im right behind you...can wait to see you all on the otherside where we can feel alive again and not captive by these little pills...
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fantastic, now I have sleeping disease...lol
i feel like i can't even make a fist.  I hope I can continue the sleeping thing, it seems like it would be awful to struggle with sleep on top of everything else.  i certainly feel like a slug.  
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i agree wholehaearted kelly...and i also had the sleep too much problem verses the no sleep thing like most..u r the first i heard say that...i thought i was the only person who had sleeping disease during detox..it linger for a while!
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There is no better day then today.  You could not take it tomorrow, and then tomorrow could be day 1!  Keep in touch with everyone here, my computer is the first thing I reach for when I wake up.  I'm sleeping ALOT, some people don't sleep much, but i'm definantly opposite.  I keep hoping to wake up and feel better, but it's not as bad as I imagined.  Like everyone is telling me, i'm taking it one day at a time.  I don't have drugs available, so I don't have that inner fight of 'should i take them or not'.  They are gone, as gone as gone gets.  It's good to know I have the valium if I need to just sleep, and the clonodine that was suggested damn near puts me out immediately.  You aren't alone, it's so good to be here where other people understand our language, isn't it?
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love ur story...but u stuck to ur QUIT day...so cool and so encouraging....if we waited til we had no pills or til we could get no pills..some of us would never ever quit..u id good....swoosh..those puppies r gone bye bye and u took control  congrats!
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That is great to hear that you are ready to do this and on day two already...and thats to both of you.

I actually stopped taking my roxicets on wensday i took anywhere fron 270mg to 370mgs a day and the last 4 days i used methadone to taper off and im at 10mgs of methadone today and i am feeling crazy withdrawals already.  ive been through this before but this time around ive been taking so much more roxis then ever.  this time around i also got my familys support so that i dont relapse like the other times when i was hiding the fact that i took pills and of my withdrawal.

Im feeling alot of withdrawals and my heart is pounding is that normal?  its beating very hard and fast. well tomorrow im either not gonna take anything and deal with this week or it might be my last day using 10mgs(wich does nothing, maybe made me feel ok for about 4 hours)....im gona write my progress with you two so hopefully we can all help each other.

time to take the biggest leap....and actually going through with my yearly new years resolution... :\
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