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Sick and Tired
I am new to this forum so far I love it. I go to pain management and have so many things wrong with me physically that it would take a while to list so I am in lots pain. The doctor put me on 5 Narco and 3 Opana ER 30 mg. a dayIhave been on them 2 years now. In Feb. my son was robbed and murdered which brought my stress level up which in turn increased the amount of pain I have. Sometimes when I am really sad I will take 2 opana instead. Anyway I am just sick of taking pills so after finding this website I have decided to taper off and stop pain pills all together I am going to try acupuncture and explore other options these pills can not be good for my liver. I know my son would want me to let my light shine be happy and help others. I need all the support I can get you all are such caring people. So I guess for the next week I will stay with 1 opana and 4 narcos for one week then go down 1 more narco the next week then maybe three quarters opana too, should I take it that fast or what do you kind people think please help me I am determined not sure how to use this website yet but I will figure it out eventually. Thanks to everyone.
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You are doing great so keep going with your taper plan. The whirlpool bath sounds wonderful today!!
We are happy you found us so keep posting!! Dont worry about spelling or punctuation!! We can decipher anything!!!
We are happy you found us so keep posting!! Dont worry about spelling or punctuation!! We can decipher anything!!!
As you taper down, and definitely once you are off the meds completely, you might have pain for a while. It isn't real pain...its called "hyperalgesia" and its basically your body's opiate receptors screaming because they aren't being fed exogenous chemicals.
For me, it was leg aches and some back pain...but it went away.
You're on your way...w/God's help no one can stop you.
For me, it was leg aches and some back pain...but it went away.
You're on your way...w/God's help no one can stop you.
Well I am on week two not a lot to report about my situation yet I was able to sleep until 9:30. Nose is still running. Back is hurting but not like it was last night the hot bath really helped. I hope everyone is sticking to their plans and the ones that are on the fence about it will make the right decision I believe if you have found yourself at this website than you really want to quit else you wouldn't be here. I hope we all are able to make the right choice and get this poison out of our system once and for all. Krispy did you say you used withdraw ease if you did did it help any? Krispy thanks for sharing. I am not real good at texting I know you have all noticed I leave out a lot of punctuations I hope it is still understandable. I know there have been times I shake a little and hit the wrong keys so I just don't take the time to do it. God bless everyone.
Your plan sounds GOOD!! If you can take it slow and stick to your taper plan....freedom awaits you! Having that whirlpool spa in your home? Heavenly idea! Massage, Epsom salt baths, and the whirlpool jets will DEFINITELY help you.
I don't know if you are aware of this, but long term use of opiates can actually increase our pain. It's a condition called "opiate-induced hyperalgesia". You can look it up....Wikipedia has a great article about it.
I found myself in that condition before I quit but didn't know what it was called or that I even had it until I found this forum. And INITIALLY, as we taper and then totally get off the opiates, we usually have what is called "rebound pain". It takes each of us a little while totally off the opiates to re-assess our TRUE pain levels. We have opiate receptors up and down our spine and most all of us have increased back pain when we taper down and/or cold turkey quit. As the receptors get used to NOT having opiates on them.....they settle down. Our bodies quit producing our own natural endorphins (endogenous morphine) when we are on opiates for a period of time. There are things we can do to increase the production of endorphins, but we'll save that for another time.
The runny nose and the back pain are both symptoms of reducing opiate intake......let us know how you are doing. We're traveling this journey with you, Terry, and here to help~
I don't know if you are aware of this, but long term use of opiates can actually increase our pain. It's a condition called "opiate-induced hyperalgesia". You can look it up....Wikipedia has a great article about it.
I found myself in that condition before I quit but didn't know what it was called or that I even had it until I found this forum. And INITIALLY, as we taper and then totally get off the opiates, we usually have what is called "rebound pain". It takes each of us a little while totally off the opiates to re-assess our TRUE pain levels. We have opiate receptors up and down our spine and most all of us have increased back pain when we taper down and/or cold turkey quit. As the receptors get used to NOT having opiates on them.....they settle down. Our bodies quit producing our own natural endorphins (endogenous morphine) when we are on opiates for a period of time. There are things we can do to increase the production of endorphins, but we'll save that for another time.
The runny nose and the back pain are both symptoms of reducing opiate intake......let us know how you are doing. We're traveling this journey with you, Terry, and here to help~
Connie I was so focused on me that I forgot to ackoklowlede your friends passing and her sons most traumatic experience it must have been a very sad time I pray everyone is getting better. I am sure though that having a friend like you in there life at a time like that gave them some comfort.
Robin I wanted to say thank you for setting a fine example, stopping and praying for me is exactly what Jesus would want us to do.
Robin I wanted to say thank you for setting a fine example, stopping and praying for me is exactly what Jesus would want us to do.
Connie and Robin you have no idea how much it meant to me that you two took time out of your day to reach out to me and what you both said was so inspiring it gave me even more hope and determination to do this.
Wanted to let everyone know I will be starting week two tomorrow and intend to follow directions and take it slow I will stick to my plan I thought of a couple of more things today that might help and thought I would share them with everyone. Today I was looking in a catalog and came across a whirlpool spa that hangs over the side of your bathtub it has levers to adjust the jets in what ever direction your pain is in and right now mine is my back. It cost 79.00 which is doable for me right now thank goodness. Also I remember back in the nineties I went to the gym a lot and became friends with a massage therapist back then it was 30.00 for 30 minutes but well worth the money. It is so good for you lots of health benefits it gets your blood circulating better and helps push toxins out of your muscles so they can be eliminated quicker. Now I realize we don't all have the money to be able to do this but if you have a significant other or a friend maybe you could ask them to give you a back massage just 5 minutes can even make a huge difference or it has for me. All one has to do is warm the lotion up in your hands start at the low lower back with both hands stretched out thumbs touching and with as much pressure as one can tolerate just push straight up the back swipe across slowly four or five times and I promise it will help. When I make it through this I intend to give back you are so right about the fact that there are so many people reaching out for help and hope we can make a difference like you said save a life. Now I know you don't know me very good yet but actions speak louder than words and I pray that I take the time when I have detoxed to come back and share my experience strength and hope with others just as you generous people here do. I will keep everyone updated on my progress right now I just have.a runny nose and like I said earlier my back hurts it is getting kind of late I think I will go take a hot bath with Epsom salt I bought today. Thanks again forever grateful --- Terry---
Wanted to let everyone know I will be starting week two tomorrow and intend to follow directions and take it slow I will stick to my plan I thought of a couple of more things today that might help and thought I would share them with everyone. Today I was looking in a catalog and came across a whirlpool spa that hangs over the side of your bathtub it has levers to adjust the jets in what ever direction your pain is in and right now mine is my back. It cost 79.00 which is doable for me right now thank goodness. Also I remember back in the nineties I went to the gym a lot and became friends with a massage therapist back then it was 30.00 for 30 minutes but well worth the money. It is so good for you lots of health benefits it gets your blood circulating better and helps push toxins out of your muscles so they can be eliminated quicker. Now I realize we don't all have the money to be able to do this but if you have a significant other or a friend maybe you could ask them to give you a back massage just 5 minutes can even make a huge difference or it has for me. All one has to do is warm the lotion up in your hands start at the low lower back with both hands stretched out thumbs touching and with as much pressure as one can tolerate just push straight up the back swipe across slowly four or five times and I promise it will help. When I make it through this I intend to give back you are so right about the fact that there are so many people reaching out for help and hope we can make a difference like you said save a life. Now I know you don't know me very good yet but actions speak louder than words and I pray that I take the time when I have detoxed to come back and share my experience strength and hope with others just as you generous people here do. I will keep everyone updated on my progress right now I just have.a runny nose and like I said earlier my back hurts it is getting kind of late I think I will go take a hot bath with Epsom salt I bought today. Thanks again forever grateful --- Terry---
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