Deep kissing, nipple sucking a stripper

[Wtfhappenedlastnight]

Good day everyone,

I hope everyone is doing well and having a good festive period.

I just need some advice please as my anxiety is killing me. Last night we went out with work guys to a sports event, drank waaaay to much and then (very stupidly) went to a strip club.

Anyway, I (very stupidly again) bought a 30min session with two ladies. I was very drunk btw. So after we went in I kissed both of them multiple times, I rem it was deep throat aggressive kissing, I’m not sure if someone but my lip or if I bit one of theirs (not sure if this even happened, my mind is killing me and thinking that it did as I do that sometimes when I’m sober) anyway, we all deep kissed each other and I sucked pretty hard on both of their nipples quite alot.

I’m also not sure, I think the one licked the others vagina once or twice, I’m not sure if I kissed her after that all I rem I was 15 mins in and realized I was being stupid and decided to leave and not even take up the full 30mins.

Please someone help ease my nerves if there is any chance any stds/hiv/sti infection risk from I stupidly did last night?

I’ve been to my GP this morning and he mentioned he doesn’t think there’s any risk and said taking the hiv pill isn’t necessary. I also went for blood tests (that’s how anxious I am about all of this) I know it won’t show up now but I just thought I’d do it for some ease of kind for right now, and then I think I should go for tests again in 6weeks? Again my GP said it wasn’t necessary but I felt like I had to.

I think I’m just looking for more confirmation to what my GP said and that I’m probably over thinking this way to much and I don’t have to be worried about anything? (I pray so)

So, to summarise, is there any risk for stds/stis/hiv or anything else related to that for my scenario?

1) deep throat kissing with the potential of a small lip bit (I didn’t notice, see, taste any blood at any stage, this could just be my overthinking)
2) sucking both of their nipples quite hard
3) potentially kissing the one after she licked the others vagina
4) and lastly I’m sure I touched/ rubbed their vagina lips a little with my fingers, I’m not sure if I washed my hands before I went to the bathroom and potentially touched my penis after the vagina stroking.
5) a lot of hard pushing dry humping from my penis to their exposed vagina, but my jeans and underwear were on.

Thank you so much, I really appreciate your help.

[auntiejessi]

These are all pretty similar to your previous questions.

1) deep throat kissing with the potential of a small lip bit (I didn’t notice, see, taste any blood at any stage, this could just be my overthinking)

No risk. There has never been a confirmed case of HIV from kissing. The only risk would be oral herpes type 1, which you can get from kissing your mom or grandmother.

2) sucking both of their nipples quite hard

Sucking nipples softly or hard - no risk. Already answered this for you before.

3) potentially kissing the one after she licked the others vagina

No risk. Oral sex on a vagina is quite low risk, and kissing someone after that is no risk.

4) and lastly I’m sure I touched/ rubbed their vagina lips a little with my fingers, I’m not sure if I washed my hands before I went to the bathroom and potentially touched my penis after the vagina stroking.

No risk. I'll include links at the end that explain why this is not a risk,


5) a lot of hard pushing dry humping from my penis to their exposed vagina, but my jeans and underwear were on.

No STD, including HIV, goes through clothing. No risk.

I don't know why you keep entertaining yourself with sex workers if it stresses you out so much.

The only way you get an STD is oral, vaginal or anal sex. You have to do the oral sex.

Heavy grinding or rubbing while you are both unclothed can transmit certain STDs, but it has to have the friction associated with intercourse.

Here are some posts from our experts (when we had them) that may help -

https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/Nervous-about-mutual-masturbation/show/2183476

https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/Mutual-Masturbation-STD/show/1968429

https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/mutual-masturbation-sti/show/1858544

https://www.medhelp.org/posts/STDs/Understanding-the-risks-of-mutual-fingering/show/1516796

https://www.medhelp.org/posts/HIV---Prevention/Vaginal-fluid-on-hand-touched-inside-of-condom-and-head-of-penis/show/1119533 - read this thread thoroughly. There is an excellent explanation about why certain activities are not risks, and why others are.

[Wtfhappenedlastnight]

Thank you so much, so basically there is no risk at all for stds/ sti/ hiv transmission. Also you do not recommend the second blood test at 6 weeks interval? I don’t know how I keep getting into these situations. I hardly even been out or drank since the last time. I actually gave up alcohol and this was one of those end of year functions and a lot of peer pressure but still not an excuse for my actions.

I apologize for asking similar things again from last time, my mind works in weird ways with my anxiety so that even if one small little thing is different from the previous time or from what I know, then my mind will blow that 2% up viciously and fixate on it. So basically just for reassurance, and I am REALLY GRATEFUL as last time for your reassurance again. I won’t let myself get into a situation again where I’ll do something stupid like this. Please know, you do an amazing job here and you help so many people like me who are generally decent people that get drunk and do stupid ****.

If there is anyway I can compensate you or donate to the forum or anything like that then please let me know and I’ll def do it.

[auntiejessi]

No, you had no risk, so there was no need to test now unless you had other encounters you were concerned about. It's important to remember that anyone can have an STI, not just a stripper or sex worker.

You do not need to test again in 6 weeks, again unless you have other encounters you are concerned about. These encounters have no risk.

Peer pressure can be tough, but there is no time like the present to learn to say no to that. Also, don't hesitate to talk to your doctor about your anxiety. You don't hesitate to go in for other kinds of health care, right? Your mental health is just as important as your physical health.

[Wtfhappenedlastnight]

Thank you so much, so the second round of testing is not necessary. I think I also subconsciously went for the tests today also just to be 100% sure that my last encounter/ first post didn’t result in anything (if that didn’t then this shouldn’t either as it was pretty similar, apart from the deep throat’s kissing and the vagina licking by the other woman) as soon as I get the results i will update my first post - God willing the results will be good and it can help the next person like me that might stumble across that post. I need to train my mind to trust my GP and experts as yourself, it’s not that I don’t it’s that in these situations my mind likes to torture me with the unknown, hence my need for constant reassurance.

I have actually sucked it up and went to see a psychiatrist last month and started on a low dose anti-anxiety medicine, but thank you so much for asking and caring. Really means a lot.

[auntiejessi]

Your GP and I are trusting decades and decades of science when we give you these answers. It's not some random miracle or luck that your tests will be negative, and I'm not knocking your religious beliefs, but science says your tests will be negative because you have had little to no risk in all of these encounters.

Seeing a psychiatrist is great, really. If you aren't getting regular counseling, it might help to add that. A lot of studies show that therapy and meds help the most.

[Wtfhappenedlastnight]

I completely understand what you mean. I believe in the science 100% and I fully trust you experts and GPs l, but I always like to add my faith in there too :)

I will take your advise and see one, it’s just really hard talking face to face about this stuff with someone. I could barely explain the events to my GP this morning. I feel like I felt the last time, disgusted in myself, unbelief that I would even do something like that. That’s not who I am or what I do. I’m so paranoid about this stuff that I always ask new girlfriends to get tested with me before we start anything romantic. Another example, the barber once cut my hair and the blade made me bleed a little bit. I spend a month stressing over that.

Just as a side note, I’ve noticed that I have a few cuts on my tongue that I’m not sure if it was there yesterday, I sometimes bite my tongue when eating or sleeping, even if I had this at the time it would still be a no risk event correct. My penis head also feels abit like it’s burning but I suppose it’s due to dehydration from all the alcohol and the 6 showers I took since last night.

[auntiejessi]

Do you think you have OCD? I can't diagnose you with that, but it might be something to talk to your psychiatrist about.

I know you are ashamed, but it's really important that you remove the labels from your choices. Not only did you barely do anything, you are buying into false stigmas of things, and it is preventing you from getting well, emotionally and mentally.

You got drunk and made some foolish decisions. We have forums full of people who made similar choices. You can't all be bad, right?

If I were asking you the same questions, would you be shaming me? Would you shame your best friend, your brother, your mother for the same choices? Stop shaming yourself for the same things.

You really barely did anything. Sex is a normal, healthy thing. Maybe sex with sex workers isn't your thing, but there isn't anything inherently shameful about sex workers.

Please, if you have to write it all down and hand a piece of paper to a therapist, or tell it in the third person like you're talking about a friend, do that. Just talk about it.

No STI causes cuts on the tongue, and I'm sure the 6 showers have dried your skin out. Sex or STIs don't make you dirty. I've had genital herpes for almost 20 years. I'm not dirty.

Please, get a therapist. Make it a gift to yourself.

[Wtfhappenedlastnight]

Oddly enough she did actually diagnose me with OCD. That’s what we’re working on now with the pills. But I do see that therapy and counseling is def needed in my case. People kiss people they don’t know every single day especially when they’re drunk, I did that a lot in my uni days too and I know and I fully agree I shouldn’t place labels on sex workers or anything like that. And I def didn’t mean to come of as judgemental or anything towards anyone. More me being really tough on myself for the decisions that I made knowing fully well that I don’t handle these situations well at all. My glands are a bit swollen today and I feel very congested and stuffy, my mind tried to go off on me thinking I’ve caught something, but I’m working on not fixating on it because you and my GP have already told me not to worry at all and there is no risk at all for that and it’s really, really helping me a lot not to worry or fixate. Without this venting avenue and your reassurance I would be a complete mess! I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, thank you from the bottom of my heart, I’m really grateful for your replies, time and reassurance.

[auntiejessi]

No STI causes congestion either.

I'm not sure why you don't think a cold, covid or the flu with it being the season, and the most obvious, but it's not an STI.

I hope you get some therapy, and start feeling better. There is help out there. :)

Happy holidays.

[Wtfhappenedlastnight]

Thank you again for all you do, I hope you have an amazing festive period :)