ADDICTION: SUBSTANCE ABUSE COMMUNITY
What is the best way to detox from narcotic pain killers?
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What kind of family would disown you for seeking help in rehab? Sure, you will lose respect and self-image from them, but only because you got addicted, not that you're seeking help through rehab. I went to rehab for 28 days and it helped me get off my percocets and all the other crap I was taking and I was on HIGH doses of oxy... Like over 200mg a day because I had such a high tolerance and had been on then for my back for years. Go to rehab. Seriously....
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I would fist start off by saying the only person or people that can truly tell you how to get off of these medications is someone that has felt with this before PERSONALLY! I to had a back problem and started off taking percacets and lower tabs. After taking this for 2 years and every single day taking 2 a day then to 4 a day then to 6 a day even though they were working at 2 a day my body wanted to feel the high so I would up by 2 every 4 r 5 months. I ran out of the medications one day because I left out of town and by the time I came back my doctor wouldnt write them for me no more so I went cold turkey and yes I felt like crap. I went after 2 days of suffering to a Methadone Treatment Center and after the first day of doing the blood work and stuff they gave me 15 mg of Methadone and OMG the bad cravings the cold sweats the nausea everything went away. And for me to go from 80mg of oxy twice a day to 15 mg of methadone once a day is a big thing brother. AND IT LAST ALL DAY. To me this might be something you would want to look into. But word to the wise just like everything else this to can be addictive you just have to stay on what works and stay there meaning u can take 10 mg of methadone once a day and not feel sick then that's what you need to do. Don't go up just because you want to feel high. If you want to do it you can bro it's all up stairs. I have been taking 15 mg of methadone for over a few years now once a day and I'm coming down slowly like 5 mg every 4 to 6 weeks. If you need someone to talk to email me at (***@****) and I will help you out
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I am a terrified 46 year old who is suffering from severe chronic back pain and will suffer until I can afford surgery.  I can't work have not worked in over 8 years, I suffer from Disk Disease and also Panic Disorder.  I have been taking 8 vicodin a day, 4 soma a day and at least 3 2mg. xanax per day.  I don't get out of bed much, my home is trashed I have no will to do anything, no dreams or hopes and my world goes on without me in it and i now hate myself and often wish i were just dead.  Any help?  This is hurting my 26 year old son who supports me and hurting him is killing me even more.  God help me please. No insuranace or money.
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NOT SURE IF ANY OF YOU HAVE HEARD OF THE THOMAS DIET, BUT IT WORKS....IM A LORTAB ADDICT AND TRUST IT WASNT EASY AND ITS A STILL A FIGHT DAILY TRYNA KICK THIS HABIT, BUT GOOGLE THE THOMAS DIET IS YOU WANT HELP
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All i want to say is thank you... God has put you on my heart as i am just starting this process myself.. and have been one of those I CAN DO IT MYSELF people and have done it and failed just to return even worse.. I am tired of living a double life and hurting my family.. Have been pretty good at hiding my addiction until recently. now my wife knows and has been having a hard time understanding this addiction. But i have alot of faith in GOD and know he will help me i just need a way to make it through the strong WDs so i wont miss work.. i am willing to give your method a try... ill try anything before i lose my family and my sanity.. Hope you are still doing well..
God Bless
Roy in Montana
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Today is day two and i feel like im going to die, is it going to get better?
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The Truth.. Quite Cold Turkey You do not want to get on suboxion or subutex.. there the same thing as pain pills AND Honestly has the worse withdrawl (withdrawal) symtoms (symptoms). If you want to quite Do this. Drink tons of water daily for muscle aches and eat bananas.. they also help. u want to load your body with as much nuterients as possible. And also go on a walk daily. One more most important thing of all is family! get there help befor u hurt them and talk to them dont be scared tell them how your feeling.. it does help.. Just stay positive. and if there is anyone who is negative in your life get away from them.. surrond yourself around people who really do care about you and your future.
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Thanks for the advice, I'm on 120 MG Morphine a day and plan to ween my self off during a 4 month period instead of cold turkey.
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Hi, I am a 39 YOF. I took oxycontin 60 mg 3 x daily until i lost my job. Now I no longer have ins so my dr. put me on 60 mg 3x daily of morphine. And I take 40 mg. oxycodone daily. I suffer from degenerative spine disease and have had 2 vert. already replaced. I feel like the pills control my every move. I try to take as prescribed but there are times my body requires more, so i try to cut back the next dose to make up for it. The meds are expensive without insurance to pay for them. That is why i feel so bad. I have a 10 yr old son who i could be spending the money on! Its not like he does with out at all but I still feel terrible! Im not sure what my pain level is now. When i started going to pain management 3 yrs ago, I only took hydros for the pain. I have had to increase it every so often for the addiction mostly.
     One question? If i sit still for any length of time i am soo stiff I cant move! Is that the meds? My muscles are always hurting. Every movement is painful to me. I just wondered if that was the meds doing it because i dont remember it from b4 i went to pain management.
      But I too feel like a junkie and I am embarrassed everytime i get my meds refilled.
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Hi - just quick question... If i go to my doctor explainning my addiction to pain pills, does he have to report it to my work or wouldnthe insuranse company raise a flag? Thx!
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I'm a 30 year old mom and have been hooked on percs on and off for about 4 years now. The longest I've been off is about 2 months, then I had a headache and BAM the doc had me back on the 10mg percs AGAIN! Why did I go back on them? I knew I shouldn't but did anyway. I honestly thought I would be ok and could stop after that one more script...nope, wasn't like that at all. I got hooked again:(. The last time I got cleaned up I had suboxen to help me, but I don't have the money to go back to that doc. to get more. Now I'm just 24 hrs into stoping cold turkey and I just don't know if I can do it:(:( I want to sooooo bad!!! Not only for me, but for my 3 little ones and my husband. My WHILE family is 100% behind me and really want me to do this, and I want to:)! But I feel like a mean, horrible, lazy person without the pills. Am i? Do pills really control a person like this? Or is it just me? I can get my script filled again in a week in a half, but if I have to go through this hell now, and make it through it then I'm NOT getting them filled. I want to get better and clean, but can I really? I hate this!!!!! I have read all the posts on here and I think you all are amazing:):)!! and hope I can be as strong as all of you:) here is to cleaning up:)!!!!
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For 6 yrs I was prescribed Oxycontin and Percs. for the DDD and herinated disc in my back and neck, it began wrecking havoc on my body. One day I decided enough was enough, I grew tired of following a pain management doctor around like a bird snagging bread crumbs. Of course the idea of going cold turkey terrified me and I didn't want to be labeled an addict which of course was what I had become. Seriously, you cannot be anything but this after being on them for so long, especially since they had me taking them five times a day. I knew the withdraws were going to be bad, really bad and this scared me to know end, but I had made up my mind. I turned to Mother Nature.
A few drops of Passionflower and California Poppy seeds extract  in water or tea did the trick. Both are herbs, legal and can be found in any health food store. I found the liquid works better than the pill form, it is not addicting, and help with my back pain to boot. You will still have withdraws, but not to where you cannot handle it yourself. The extracts calm your body to such a degree the withdraws are more of an annoyance then a physical breakdown. Once they are gone though you will feel great, there is nothing like having the fog cleared from your mind, you get high on life itself, there is nothing you can't handle, at least this is how it worked for me. Now you will go through a time period of feeling lazy, but I believe this is your body restoring itself. Once this lifts, and it will you will be buzzing around the house, everything the doctors told me I couldn't do because of my back and neck I have been able to do now. Don't get me wrong, I still have my pain, but at least now I can grin and bear it and when it gets really bad I just use the extracts.

Good Luck and best wishes
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thank you so much just reading your post knowing there is light in a couple more days makes me have hope thank you
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My fiance takes 100 mg daily of Oxycontin. He snorts one 30mg right when he wakes up and than quarters to halves through out the day until bedtime. He spends about $300/week on them. He has run out for the hundredth time in the past year. Every time this happens he acts like a nut job wondering all over the house looking for pieces of pills(oxys) or other drugs he knows will get him high (usually norco). He wonders around looking for things to sell, that don't mean that much to him or us(his family), I guess that means he's not that deep in to the addiction if he's selling our valuables yet?? I hope so. He just overdrafted his grandparents bank account to $250 3 days ago, and every other week steals about $200 all together. He also has great episodes of anxiety he says, and I see it too, I figure that is a symptom of WD right? Every addict feels the anxiety when in need of a fix is what I assumed.

It's not only pills he feel anxiety with when he does not have them, he used to get really anxious when we would run out of Coca Cola Soda too? I think it is just all in his head (the soda thing) but he insists he was addicted to it also, it sounds funny but I sort of believe that coke addiction, he is passed that one though lol.
His grandmother tells him to go to a methadone clinic but his aunt (who has experience with narcotics) and I don't think that is such a great idea. I read your comment about the Suboxen or Subutex, and find that to be a big miracle for some one in my fiances shoes. It's sounds hard to believe that he can make an appointment and tell the doctor  he thinks it might help his addiction. He is 20 almost 21 in June this year but what if they think he just wants to get high off it? How does that work? His medical records show he was a high risk teenager or something like that because they knew he smoked marijuana and drank alcohol.

He thought about shooting up Dilaudid today because he had no Norco or Oxy's but I won't let him stoop that far, Idk if he would if i wasn't hear to know or find out about it. He doesn't take Dilaudid though because it doesnt get him high or help his symptoms.

What I'm writing you for is because by reading your post about how you were taking 10 to 15 80 mg oxys a day and weened off of them is so great to hear; that it makes me think he can do the same. But I needed some info from some one who has had an extreme experience of addiction to this drug and how they (you) survived the healing period. I hope you can reply back, I would really appreciate some insight on this.
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I just wanted to say I recently read an article in Discover about herbal and synthesized Kratom as well as drugs like bath salts etc. - this stuff basically works on your opioid receptors so you are just prolonging your withdrawal, it takes the withdrawals away because it is acting on your opioid sensors so you may as well be taking your opiate of choice.  

A lot of this Kratom is manufactured in russia, china in black market labs made by chemists who don't care what is in it - it can contain harmful additives bringing on permanent and irrersible neuro damage as many times the "chemists" don't clean up their chemical processes because it is more costly and they leave all kinds of nasty but legal stuff in it.

In my initial w/d I read about this and I was in so much pain I would have gotten it not understanding what it really was.  In the end the only way out is to endure your withdrawal without ingesting ANY opiate substance or anything that mimics opiates or affects your opioid receptors.  Just my opinion - this stuff can be poison as it is unregulated and you have no idea what you are getting or where it is coming from.  
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im not one to talk about this sort of thing, but here it goes. im 23 yrs old and have been taking oxy contns for 4 years. ive tried o quit lots of times but never made it. im now 3 days clen and i can see the light at the end of the tunnel now. the one thing, honestly, that has/is keeping me strong is god. im going to b honest ive never really beein a religous person but i swear on my very own life is u get in touch with ur spiritualnside it makes it so much easier. im now at day 3, yes im in pain, but imnot giving up this time. its mind over matter guys, seriously just try it, god is on ur side. i havent felt any eoitons of feelings in so long, now im crying every 5 mins, it jus feels so good to feel again. with the help of god, i even called me dealer earlier and told them how iam doing, and they where actually happy for me. u have 2 be ready and no ur thru with these horrible pills in order to have the strength to pull thru. i really hope i helped someone.take care everyone and remember ur in harge of ur own life U CAN DO THIS
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Ive been on Noroco 10/325 for the last 4 years taking 1every 4 hours and at times more. Ive had grade 3 spondylithesis resulting in a spinal fusion. Needless to say my body now has a chemical dependence to these monsters. I finally have gotten to the point where I'm tired of relying on meds just to feel normal. I told my doc that I wanted to quit and he suggested a slow taper. It sounds easy enough to do but everytime I fill my script I tell myself this is the bottle I'm gonna start the taper with, never happens though. My doc also gave me a script for Tofranil, Buspirone,and Clonidine to help ease. Some withdrawal symptoms. They helped surprisingly , nausea, runs, chills, feeling ill over all was curbed substantially. Restless legs however it did almost nada for,  for me they were still just as intense as ever but It was still alot better than going through the full effect of WD. I've been there and I thought I was gonna die , full WD is the most uncomfortable thing I've ever experienced. I forgot to say I saved 14 pills I took a half of one two times a day along with my 3 scripts from doc starting on a Tues. And 1 before i went to bed and a half of 1 in middle of the night so I could be somewhat comfortable from RLS . I didn't sleep much but wasn't as uncomfortable. Today is Saturday last night no sleep at all till 5 this morn.  Surprisingly I woke up around 10 and feel alot better. If I would have known that these things would consume my life like they have I don't think I would have ever taken them. I felt so alone with this problem until I started reading blogs online. I know now I'm not. Withdrawal is a scary thing to face and go through, but trust me it doesn't last forever , I faced it I didn't think I was strong enough to do it. Stay strong and once its passed remember the all the pain WD caused and what you'll have to relive if you let those monsters back in your life.  Godbless
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I don't know if you'll get this but please hang in there.  When a family or job is on the line things become more imminent.  My name is Jon but everyone calls me JK.  I am 25 years old. Male.  Have been addicted to opiates for almost 7 years and am just as tired.  Basically sick and tired of being sick and tired.  Withdrawal is almost unbearable.  NA meetings always make you feel like your not alone at least.  I would see a doctor to get prescribed a maintenance drug like suboxone but those can also be addictive which some don't realize. A drug like this can help if used responsibly and not for too prolonged a period of time. You need a higher power in your life whether its Jesus, Buddha, Satan, etc., that you can pray to or confide in.  It's a long standing process.  After while your body will return to normal but it takes time.  It's not fun or pleasant.  It's a battle.  There are ways to overcome this dreaded disease.  If interested in talking, email me at ***@****. I happened to be scrolling through and saw your cry for help.  I know how it feels to have people who don't understand you or let alone know how to help you.  Then you're stuck doing it on your own feeling trapped in the world. I'm not too computer savvy and don't check my email as often as i like which is why I've left my number but if you're interested and would like to leave me a message I would be more than happy to return your plea.
                                                              Your cries have been answered,
                                                                                       JK  
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im sorry to say but suboxones are not the way too go. they may work for a minute, but you end up just as dependant on them as your opiate of choice, you're best choice is to either a. get yourself in a rehab program or b. detox yourself. suboxone are just a substitute so these doctors can keep making their money. and to let you know you can't suboxone for ever and the withdrawls from them are far worse. i'm currently constructing my own detox program where i'm going cold turkey and i've been thru it all, mass amounts of vics, oxys, percs, you name i done it. i'm done with that life style. there are different ways out then more pills, but these doctors just wanna feed em to you to put you at ease, some may wana help and if they did they'd be honest and say rehab and personal detox would be the best way to go.... but that's my opinion..... i've been doin this **** for almost 10 years... i know alil something something about this ****.
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I have had dcf on my case about taking a drug screen I currently relapsed and was taking pain pills again I was clean for 2 years! I'm on day 2 with nothing! And it *****! But dcf was called because my ex parents hate me! Now I'm tring to get my system clean so I can give them a drug screen. What should I do I was suppose to take drug screen Saturday and didn't! What should I say to them! He is already calling me and I'm only on day 2 with nothing?
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I take at least 10 thousands a day. This is my second day with nothing but tremadol. It's horrible I'm dying over here. I have 2 babies at home & that makes it worse. I was wondering if I go to the er if they can help me. I can't do a rehab I have no family to help with my babies. I have been taking pain bills everyday for at least 2 years. It's been about 6 months since I have detoxed. What do I do?
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I take at least 10 thousands a day. This is my second day with nothing but tremadol. It's horrible I'm dying over here. I have 2 babies at home & that makes it worse. I was wondering if I go to the er if they can help me. I can't do a rehab I have no family to help with my babies. I have been taking pain bills everyday for at least 2 years. It's been about 6 months since I have detoxed. What do I do?
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dying - the only way through this addiction is to suffer the withdrawals, if you take any opiates you'll just restart the clock.  If you are on day 2 then you are probably through the worst by tomorrow and then will start feeling a little better every day.  I know it s u c k s but try to endure it - for you, for your babies.  You deserve a chance to live a life without pills, give yourself the opportunity.  

I was taking hydros about 40-60 mg per day for 3 years and then sporadically for years before that and I am 42 days clean today.  You can do it.  If you go to the er and are honest with you hopefully they wouldn't give you any opiates, they could you something to help with the restless legs maybe (I can't think of the drug name right now) and IV fluids but you CAN do this at home, it just isn't any fun.

Try to psych yourself up that you just have the flu and have to ride it out.  The mental part will start up once you get through the physical stuff and that can be and most times is the harder part to deal with.

Post here often for support - just ask a new question as you've posted on a pretty old thread.  There are lots of us on here who recently got clean, people in the process of preparing to get clean and old timers who have lots of  clean time under their belt.

It's a great support system.  Don't your kids deserve the best you?  Dont' you?  

Post for support and we'll be here!
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I would love to get into a whole recovery talk with you but this would take time. Some things may sound corny or cliche but they are cliche for a reason.  1. figure out what you want. It sounds like you want to be done with. So with that being said - make the comitment to stop and never pick up again. There is no better time than now to quit. This will not doubt be difficult and I don't know your life but I do know this might be the hardest thing you will ever do. I can speak from experience. But stay strong. There are 100's of organizations to help and thousands upon thousands of other people dealing with this issue too. You are definitely not alone. 2. Accept that life will get better  and accept that a higher power, something bigger than you  can restore your faith or sanity. 3. Seek a higher power to help you through the withdraw only asking for help after asking for the help of others. 4.If your body is up for it  then turn your attention to someone else who might need yours. 5 For the physical withdraws - long hot showers or a hot tub, moderate exercise, small amounts of chocolate, jogging, advil, music (loud) and pardon me saying this but masterbation (masturbation) helps, and try to sleep as much as possible. Everything I said in 5 will release endorphins giving your body small doses of euphoria. All this depending on how much is in your system should take about 5 to 7 days tops.  1 2 & 3 feeling horrible and 4 5 & 6 feeling better everyday. Good Luck. I know this was quick and everywhere. I have experience working with addicts and at risk youth and would love to help any way I can.  Ill pray for you  Hope this helped
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yes I weened and it did help somewhat but no matter what you will feel tired and crappy for a while. some people longer than others. hang in there ween yourself to almost nothing ( 1/4 to 1/8th a pill a day. it will help. take vitamins ( keep your energy up ) stay busy to keep your mind off it. it's not easy but it's sooooo worth it to get your life back. Prayer helped me as well if you are a believer get help at your church. Good luck n' God bless. p.s. you may need immodium for loose stools. ( anti diarrhea ) you may even feel like you have a cold or flu. that's not uncommon.
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Check out Dr. Andre Waismann at anrinstitute.com
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Im looking for some help, I just recently learned that my spouse is shooting up prescription pain pills. We were in a serious car accident 4 yrs ago and he broke his neck, his arm and almost lost his leg, (due to a drunk driver) since then we both have been on prescription pain medications. I am teriflied of the pills and refuse to take the prescribed amount by my doctor, but my husband has gone to the extreme. Just 2 weeks ago he got a new script fill (90 pills) a week later he had taken all but 31 of them. Once I found out he was shooting them up I threatened to end our marriage and leave. He has admitted to his addiction and wants to recieve help, but we don't have health insurance and he's a nurse and he seems to think that if he checks himself into a rehab that they will report him to the state for being an addict and lose his license. Does anyone know if he seeks treatment if he can have his nurses license revoked? He isn't buying drugs off the streets or taking something other than what is prescribed to him, not sure if that makes a difference or not? Also how do I help him with recovery when I myself have serious issues with pain and am on prescription pain killers? I've had 2 failed back surgeries and then the wreck we were in messed me up even more. My doctors are telling me that it's just a matter of time before I'm paralyzed and in a wheelchair due to my injuries. I know that it's not gonna be easy, safe or fair to him, but what do I do? Can someone please help me?!?!?! Thanks in Advance, concerned
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Sorry to hear about all you have going on..   You should post a new question by going to the top of the page and hitting the "post a question" button.  You will get much more attention by posting a new question...   Just copy and paste it.

All the best and I encourage you stick around.  Lots of knowledgeable people here
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Please post a new question and some of the nurses will be along to answer it for you - you also may want to list what state you are in as that is relevant info.  Repost it as the previous member suggested and you'll get response.  Also make the title relevant like "Can an RN get license revoked if...."  something that will make the nurses on the board come to your aid and provide you with info.
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For the last 1-2 months, i started out with one percoect a night, soon and fast it became 3 1/2 pills a night for pain. Soon I ran out last week or so, began to felt sweaty (cold/hot), flashes as well, shaking, clammy, and wanting more. Monday (march 26) m ydoctor gave me a lighter medication to taper off and detox. 1 pill a day of hydrocodone, which i take at 4:46pm. He says i will be symptom free on sunday april 1st. is this true? I'm on my third day today. I'm still feeling the symptoms: cold/hot flashes/sweaty, shaking, nausea, diarrhea, bowel movements. How long does this work?
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Hi - I was taking hydrocodone 10/350 - 4-6 per day for two years plus several years sporadic use before that.  I tapered down to one hydro before I jumped off and still had awful withdrawal.  Everyone is different but you still withdraw from hydro and I did a pretty efficient taper for myself I believe - sick as a dog.  Just prepare, hunker down, get yourself plenty of immodium, gatorade.  Take the immodium aggressively to control the trots.  Days 2-4 are worst for most, on day 4 force yourself up and out, take a walk get your blood pumping.

You are in the infancy of dependence, whether you are an addict or not is something you know.  If you stop now, which I highly suggest, you might not have it too rough.  I CAN tell you with certainty if you continue down the path you are on, you will come to be very sorry.

I assume you take them because of pain?  That is how many of us started, myself included.  I never abused my meds but here I am just the same - longterm use breeds dependency, and long term dependency can really mess with you mentally.

Have you thought about alternate pain management?  If not, that is a must.  Pain can be managed without narcotics but you need to get educated and have some tools in your kit to deal with the pain.  If you want some further advice or tips on this just send me a PM and I'm happy to share with you.  I don't want to write a novel here just give you some support and things to consider!

Good luck!
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I have been addicted to Hydrocodone for the past 5 years.10/500 3 a day. Well,we all know how that goes. Soon i was taking 8 pills a day and started to get really concerned about my health. I have a amazing girl friend and 1 year old daughter that are my whole life and they deserve so much more than this. So i made a huge mistake. I asked the doc to change my meds to Oycondone with out tylenol. I knew what I wanted and get gave it to me. To be honest i was taking Roxys as well for the past 2 years. Snorting only. I cant believe that it was so easy to talk my doctor into them. I have lied to my whole family for entirely way to long now. I have told the I promise im going to quit story to my girlfriend more times than i can remember and I always let her down. I really dont deserve her or any of my friends or family. I get up snort 30mgs and snort 15mgs every 3 hours until i go to bed. Ive spent over 3 grand in the past months alone pawed everything i can think of sold everything i can think of. Im sick of it. But like everyone says i am terrified of the withdraw symptoms. I sent my girlfriend and daughter down to her mothers in Florida this week so i can get off this ****. I just dont think i can do it. Today is day one and i regret deleting all of my dealers from my phone. She is so encouraging but its just so hard. Its all i think about. I am going to make a real effort but i just dont know if i can do this. I dont want to let them down cause i do feel this is my last chance at this getting my life back and restoring my relationships with my friends and family.. The thing is if i had a roxy laying next to me lol like i would it would be gone. Im in to deep and have even though of shooting myself. I gave my gun to my buddy in the police department who i have kept in the dark somehow but im scared. Really and truly scared. I want to get better. I cant stand this anymore. To make matters worse Im a commercial aircraft mechanic for Us Airways and I could lose it all to this ****. So here goes. Day one. this site has inspired me to try so i will keep updating my progress or lack there of....  
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Hello Friend , I hope you don't mind me calling you Friend.. I'm in the same boat as you. I worked 30 + yrs in power plants , pulling down 100  K + /  yr raiised 2 kids , my son joined the Army straight outta High School, did 3 tours in Iraq as a Special Forces Para Trooper , got out alive and now works as a consultant to the armed forces ,going to school at night to get into the FBI all the while pulling down some serious $$ , my daughter graduated from college and had a job the next day at a University in Boston making the bling. I got hurt on the job in 2008 , slipped in oil and messed my back up really bad. I was stupid , I had a supervisor who had a son in law that was a sports pain med DR and I went to him for therapy, what a joke, it was stupid CRAP .. like hot packs on my back , roll a big rubber beach ball around with my hands while sitting in a chair, electrical shock therpay on my back with a tens unit and walking back and forth in a pool that was 8 ft long 4 ft wide and 3 ft deep , thats it for 2 weeks 2 days a week 4 hrs a day ,then he said I was ready to go back to work w/ no restrictions , DUDE , I had to use a cane to walk ,even then I looked like a 90 yr old man walking.  It took me 15 minutes to walk 200 ft to the parking lot. The depression and the pain caused me to try to gas my self in the garage , luckly my wife forgot something at the house and caught me. So I spent a month in the mental hosp. and my wife raised 9 kinds of hell with my work and got me into the top of the line rehab place in Dallas
( PRIDE ). After 8 months 4 - 5 times a week 8 hrs a day of serious phys therapy , I'm talking Olympic training and all the bellsand whistles yoga bio feedback EVERYTHING !!   , I was able to go back to my job , although I was only about 50 % , I hid it by using the 10/325 hydros , even then I had serious pain but I didn't let anyone see it in fear of loosing my job . I worked 12 hr rotating shifts ,both days and nights ,back and forth  with a **** load of OT.  Then  2 - 1/2 yrs later , during a ice storm , I slipped on the 3 " of ice that was everywhere and busted my back again,  this time I went straight back to PRIDE , but after 4 months I knew I would not be able to do the physical work in the power plants and IF anyone would hire me it would be $ 6 - $ 8 / hr when I was making $ 34 / hr ( $ 51 / HR in OT which I worked 1000 hrs OT per yr every yr before I got hurt ) YES thats 1 THOUSAND hrs OT a yr !!   SO , because my wife is disabled , she got hit by a drunk driver in 1998 and really messed her up bad , we sold everything we owned down to the dishes , cashed in my 401K's and started traveling the world while we were still able , thinking when the money or pain meds ran out we would " CHECK OUT " .  My wife had a pain management DR in Dallas she had seen for over 8 yrs , who besides prescribing her OXY 20 and 40 mg , Hydrocodine 10/325  Xanax 1 mg  Nuerontin , Soma ..**** I cant name it all ,but I'm talking all of the above + more at the same time AND he implanted a Dalatid pump in her stomach pumping direct to her spine , like I said , she is messed up.  Now all of a sudden , outta the blue he dropped her because he said " He dosen't accept cash patience anymore , I mean WHAT THE FK !!  We were paying cash up front , now  the only way for us to get meds is to buy off the street.  Did I mention we moved to Panama , ( think the CANAL ) yes Central America , cause it's so cheap to live here. , BUT they dont have the drugs she and I need here .so every 3 months we have to leave because of the visa requirements AND to by off the streets in TX .  Also because that DR implanted that pump , which has run empty and is giving a audible beeping alarm every 15 minutes , NO other DR will touch it because THEY didn't implant it , almost sounds like I'm making this **** up ... but swear on my Mommas grave it's all true , so anyway I'm taking 6 - 8 hydro 10/325  or  6 -8   15 mg Morphine , which I see a DR here and thats all they have as far as narcotics go , but he wants to do spinal fusion on me for $ 15 K and I have had 8 friends that have had it done in the states and 6 outa the 8 were worse off after the surgery , and that was with DR's in the states.  I'm really scared I would be worse off after the surgery , BUT  I don't know for sure , thats the HELL of it .I try to streach out the pills as far as I can , up to the point that I think I know what a  5 yr herion user would feellike on WD  EXCEPT .. it's always my back pain that starts killing me , not the WD stuff I have been reading here... POOR SOULS , I feel for each and everyone who has to deal with that.  
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I'm a little late on this post by the date but you got more guts than me. I'l pray that today all is going well. I realized that today I've got ot stop taking this pain meds because they are hurtting my life. wish you well and like I said will pray for you.
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If you are ready to quit, post a new thread and we will help.  Go to the top of any page here and click on the orange ask a question icon.  It will start a new topic thread and the ones here will see it and respond.  It is a pretty active and very helpful forum.  Hope you do!
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How is the easiest way to withdraw from lorcet?
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see the post just above yours for help to start a new thread to get the help you need!!!!!
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I am 40 and have chronic migraines most caused from 3 damaged vertebra at the top of my neck.  I spent 2 years in bed due to the severe pain and the nausea following it. I've been on stadol, oxy, methadone,  ext....... I hate these pills but I'm scared of the pain.  I really don't want to suffer withdrawal either.  I'm scared of it too.  I was looking for a place to go that helps you get off all the prescription meds without the pain & discomfort of withdrawals and found a million people suffering just like me.  Seems like a cruel punishment except we've done nothing to deserve it.  Pray for me for I will pray for you. I wish you the best of luck.
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I have never been a site like this...i am so emabarrased...i am so addicted to pain pills - i dont know what to do...i feel like nobody can help me...i put on a front like i am ok, but i am not...i never told this to anyone before...i probably will not get a response but i just hope....
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HI  well your not alone many people here are in your shoes and many do home detoxes we can help you along but you got to want it
if you do spend some time reading the other posts look up the thomas recipe on the lower right of this page and pick up the stuff
get a case of gatoraid also the rest we can walk you threw in about a week you can be free and no longer chained to a bottle good luck and God bless.......Gnarly
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I have read through tons of comments but yours was real and to the point. My husband is on day 2 and couldn't even make through the day at work. He came home and has been sleeping all day.  He revealed to me a couple of days ago that this has been a year long struggle. I knew he would take a pill now and then, but didn't realize how  bad it had got until a few months ago. He went from orally taking pills to crushing and snorting them and then to smoking them off foil. I have been questioning the hell out of him the last couple months and he finally came clean. We have 2 daughters and that is his main motivation to quit.  He suffers from anxiety issues and mild depression and has smoked weed since I met him 20 yrs ago. It balances him out.  Weed to me is no big deal to me but I had no idea how bad this was until I realized that he wasn't smoking weed at all anymore.  I just don't know how to help.  According to him I have taken a way too harsh approach.  I just don't know what to do. I am wondering if his insurance will help him get into a rehab program.  He has a great job with good benefits.   I just feel very helpless.....any advice for me as far is how to approach him and help him?
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Hi I'm new to this forum but I've read every single post ..I've been popping pills for 3 years straight now after I broke a shoulder. I came to this site looking for advise and help for detoxing myself knowing that my girlfriend and I are having a child soon and knowing that ...I'm finding out its costly ..which means buying pills of the street is now beginning to be last on my list ...I'm getting worried that I just went thru a night of frustration and kicking and sweats trying to sleep so I mass texted people I knew the next morning and sure enough that day pills were right back in my hand to swallow ...sheesh I feel like I'm just another sucker writing crap on a wall right now..before I felt happy to be on any type of pill ..Vic.oxy.t3.t4.perks .etc..but now when I take it I get depressed cause I feel like I'm letting down my girl ..and my soon to be daughter :( idk what to do ..this is the first time I'm actually googlein "detox"
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Hi I'm new to this forum but I've read every single post ..I've been popping pills for 3 years straight now after I broke a shoulder. I came to this site looking for advise and help for detoxing myself knowing that my girlfriend and I are having a child soon and knowing that ...I'm finding out its costly ..which means buying pills of the street is now beginning to be last on my list ...I'm getting worried that I just went thru a night of frustration and kicking and sweats trying to sleep so I mass texted people I knew the next morning and sure enough that day pills were right back in my hand to swallow ...sheesh I feel like I'm just another sucker writing crap on a wall right now..before I felt happy to be on any type of pill ..Vic.oxy.t3.t4.perks .etc..but now when I take it I get depressed cause I feel like I'm letting down my girl ..and my soon to be daughter :( idk what to do ..this is the first time I'm actually googlein "detox"
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I kept telling myself...YOU HAVE the FLU!  It will be over and I will feel so much better.  My brain seemed to get that and settled down a little.  It is hard, but doable!  The Thomas Recipe (bottom of the page) under Health Pages will help.  I did not to the tranquilizers and had to cut back on the Ltryosine, but the rest really helped.  Imodium (immodium), Imodium (immodium), Imodium (immodium) (liquid or pills if the liquid can't be found or you can't swallow it) will help.  I took double the dosage for a few days (personal choice) and it helped so much..even with the withdrawals in general and the opiate trots which sucked.  

Hydrate and eat! ((gatorade is good) Even if it is just a little every hour or so.(boost or ensure might work for both food and drink)  You have to eat something to keep your energy up as much as possible.  

If you have Restless legs..it is hit or miss what works.  Walking seemed to help me some.  Hot bath with epsom salts..a little.  I finally had to get my doctor to refill my restless legs meds (non addictive) to get some sleep.  If nothing works,your doctor might help.  Benedryl or OTC Alteril helps some with sleep issues and you will have them.

One hour at a time is all anyone can ask.  After 2 weeks it gets a little better and I started to say, One day at a time!  Your brain will do all sorts of things to get you to take a pill.  I found if I was hungry..the cravings got worse.  I would try to eat a banana, a few grapes or a few crackers to get that under control.

The hardest part comes after the detox.  Your brain will be all over the place and will try to get you back on the pills...It is having to work and not depend on the pills to help.  

Good for you.  I hope all goes well.  You have made a good start coming here....this site has helped me so much!!!  Keep posting!!!!!
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Good For you!!! I am in the same boat. I have Severe DDD and L5-S1 8 degree slipped/bulging disc. I too started at paint management around July 2011. I started just on Naproxen and once in a while one vicodin. For about 6 months i have been on vicodin 10-325 about 4 pills per day. I am having other issues with my body so i decided to change it. I got the flu on thursday and decided this is a sign and i am done with pills. I think your mind decides for you. Listen, and it works. I am pill free ( just a few days). although i wouldn't say i had a problem because i never went above my dose i was prescribed. I have to say after the pills , your right, you can live a life with out a cloud following you. I still have a few minor systems but Pain Management said it would take a few more days.
I went to the health food store and started getting natural pain relievers. And i start acupuncture soon.

Good luck everyone! Back pain is not easy. Until i decide to do fusion surgery i am sure i will be in a bit of pain. But i think i would rather feel the pain then be in a cloud. Our bodies are stronger then we think.
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