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I'm about to give up. No sleep.

I've been tapering.  Down to 2 7.5 percs a day.  I've slept maybe 4 total hours in 4 days.  I'm losing my mind.  Tried to stay positive but how when trying to work 10 hours and never sleep?  Called doc, gave me trazadone, did nothing at all.  I got 1 hour yesterday after taking .2 Clonodine and bawling till I passed out.  Cancelled my therapy today since its no longer safe for me to drive.  Never felt anything so cruel mentally.  I don't know what to do.  I fainted at work yesterday.  A damn bullet sounds very appealing right now.  I don't deserve this.  I'm a good person and am trying so hard.
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Just wanted to lend my support as well.  I'm going to re-post something I posted for someone else who was detoxing and really struggling with sleep...hope it helps....


Insomnia is one of the most commonly reported symptoms of detox/withdrawal, and probably one of the more irritating.  Sleep affects our mood, energy levels, concentration, everything.

While it is frustrating, some of the best advice I've seen is to try to allow the sleep to come back as naturally as possible, which is best for the long run.  If you're going to try anything, I agree that a more natural supplement would be the best choice.  I would personally not advise taking a prescribed insomnia med, for a few reasons...one, because obviously there are some risks involved.  These are some very potent medications, and everyone reacts differently to them.  The biggest reason is because, depending on how long you would take one of these meds, you will have to deal with rebound insomnia when you stop taking them.  The rebound insomnia is often bad enough that it makes the initial insomnia look like a walk in the park.  Insomnia meds should be limited to the shortest course possible, to avoid dependency, and the rebound insomnia issues.

That being said, I am a professional insomniac.  ;-)  I have struggled with my sleep for YEARS, not due to addiction, but due to many other factors (anxiety, depression, shift work).  While I don't always get the best night sleep...I've learned some tricks of the trade that sincerely do help.  Before turning to potent meds, I would advise you to exhaust all other methods, including the more natural or OTC remedies (which, you should also limit as much as possible, because rebound insomnia will occur with those too, after enough regular use).

Here are some tips to help with your sleep:

1.  Avoid any and all stimulants (caffeine, nicotine, energy drinks, etc) as much as possible, especially within 4+ hours of bedtime.

2.  Exercise is a great way to induce sleep, as it releases natural endorphins.  Even a brisk evening walk will help.  Your exercise should be an hour or more before your bedtime..you don't want to exercise right before bed.

3.  Try to avoid eating a heavy meal close to bedtime.  If you're hungry, stick to a light snack an hour or more before bed.  Avoid ALL fluids 3 (or more if you can) hours before bed.  Nothing worse than finally getting to bed and have mother nature wake you up!

4.  Stick to a consistent bedtime and a consistent bedtime routine.  Even on days when you don't FEEL tired at your bedtime, try to stick to your routine...that conditions your body and brain.  Pick a reasonable time.  If you work 3-11:30 and get home at 12, a reasonable time isn't 12:30, as you would need time to unwind after getting home.

5.  Create an environment conducive to sleep and relaxation.  Your bedroom and bed should be an inviting place that you look forward to retiring to.  Keep the room clean and clutter free, keep dust levels down.  Keep your bedding washed with clean or fresh smelling scents.  Choose comfy, non-binding clean smelling PJs.  ALL of our 5 senses affect our mood, and also our sleep.  If you have a quiet room, but your sheets smell like feet (lol), that won't be very relaxing.  Keep the room DARK.  Keep weather in mind.  In the summer, you would only need a light sheet or blanket, in the winter, heavier blankets are necessary to keep you comfy.  Again, back to the senses...if you create a bed that keeps you too hot or too cold, that will interfere with your sleep.  Keep a glass or bottle of water at your bedside, in case you awaken with that dry mouth and need for a drink.  This way you don't have to get out of bed to get something to drink.  Light soothing music or white noise machines for LOW (not blaring) background noise can be helpful.  Try to avoid using TV as a background noise, as our brains are still working while asleep, and the things you hear from the TV could affect your anxiety levels and even dreams.  Basically, sleeping with sounds of "The Chainsaw Massacre" in the background won't lead to happy thoughts.  ;0)  A warm bath or shower is great before bed...dry your hair.  Never go to bed with wet hair.  NOT comfy!

6.  Ignore the urge to get out of bed.  Even when you're feeling frustrated, try to remain in bed, reposition yourself, adjust your sheets, read a book if you are not falling asleep, but the more up and down you do, the harder it is to get and stay asleep it is.  The same goes for nighttime awakening.  If you DO fall asleep and wake up in the middle of the night, ignore the urge to get out of bed...again, reposition yourself, adjust the sheets, and try to go back to sleep.  When you get up out of bed, you're waking yourself more.  If you stay lying in bed, you are not as awake.  If nature calls...go to the BR, and get right back to bed..no snacking, no smoke breaks (I'm bad at this...lol).  Those things are murder for sleep.  Get up...go potty, right back to bed.

7.  When you DO manage to finally start on a consistent routine, you'll find things that help and hurt your sleep.  Take note of them and adjust your regimen as needed.  Sleep patterns will change, and life happens, so sometimes, adjustments need to be made. Consistency is TRULY the key..I cannot stress that enough.

8.  Listen to your body.  For a while, while your sleep is lousy, you will feel tired at odd times of the day.  Your body is telling you it needs rest, so heed the wanring...take a nap.  Lie down on the sofa, and catch a 1 hour (or less) nap.  Don't nap for hours at a time, that will interfere with your nighttime sleep.  An hour is the perfect amount of time for a refresher.  Also, don't nap in bed.  Once you're conditioned, your bed should be for nighttime sleeping only.  

Hope these tips help some...I know these are the things I do that help me get some decent sleep.  It's not always foolproof, but it works pretty well.  Please be patient for a while too...your body is getting back to normal, and that takes some time.  If you are going days without any sleep, definitely see your doctor.  Sleep depivation is a whole other ballgame, it can be dangerous.


Two other things..I agree with the others about ditching the last couple daily Percocets, I think they could be making matters worse, definitely dragging the process out.  Also, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE be VERY careful mixing a bunch of meds to try to get sleep.  We had a poster here a few years ago that was doing the same thing...just seeking a few hours of sleep...and she took the wrong combo of meds (Rx AND things like Benadryl)....she OD'ed and died.  It was very tragic.

If you haven't slept at ALL in days, then I would encourage you to talk to your doctor again.  While I totally agree that it's best to let sleep return naturally, sleep deprivation where you go many days without sleep is dangerous and should be addressed.

VERY best to you...keep posting...I'm praying you get over the hump soon and get some sleep!!!
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maybe it is time to stop the percs for good. then you can really start to heal.
fainted at work? that is not good at all. are you staying hydrated and getting enough nourishment? are you exercising to help restore your natural brain chemistry?
don't give up you have come so far. the light is getting brighter.
I think you should jump ship now. you have done a pretty long taper.
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I haven't been posting recently because of this problem... I'm back up to 25 mg and stuck there. Have not slept for more than two hrs a night even after taking 2 mg of klonopin. I'm going crazy... I'm not even experiencing other wd anymore except depression which is due to not sleeping. I wish I had some advice but know you are not alone. I look like death from lack of sleep.
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No sleep is awful.  Would it matter if you took one of your pills before bed?  Would that help you sleep?  I don't like trazadone at all.  I think Tylenol pm works better.  Good luck, don't give up!!!!
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HEY Dude  hang in there   there is not much that will get you a good nights sleep early on  give it some time sleep is the last thing to come back  hope to see you loose the last 2 pills soon it will help you recover right now your just poponing the withdrawal processs let it happen and get it over with in a week or 2 you will start to sleep here and there another week or 2 and things should get much better time is your friend when doing this.............Gnarly
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